Minecraft RTX GPU Benchmark & DLSS On vs. Off Comparison: Significant Improvement
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Bud
11: 00 This kind of environment is a good reason to play Minecraft in 4K. Once you can actually see the entirety of a large build the scene is saturated with detail. The interesting thing about Path Tracing in relation to 4K displays is theoretically just raising the precision of your rendering is the same as increasing screen resolution. Running your Path Tracing at 1080p with 4 rays per-pixel will have exactly the same processor cost as 4K resolution, conceivably everyone is going to want to be running Minecraft RTX at 4K eventually regardless of your screen resolution. It's not just a matter of sharpness either. De-noising takes time, the more native samples the less de-noising needed. In this case running higher resolution means the delay we see in lighting updates should be dramatically reduced.
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11: 00 This kind of environment is a good reason to play Minecraft in 4K. Once you can actually see the entirety of a large build the scene is saturated with detail. The interesting thing about Path Tracing in relation to 4K displays is theoretically just raising the precision of your rendering is the same as increasing screen resolution. Running your Path Tracing at 1080p with 4 rays per-pixel will have exactly the same processor cost as 4K resolution, conceivably everyone is going to want to be running Minecraft RTX at 4K eventually regardless of your screen resolution. It's not just a matter of sharpness either. De-noising takes time, the more native samples the less de-noising needed. In this case running higher resolution means the delay we see in lighting updates should be dramatically reduced.
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Martin
So FPS levels on a 2080TI in a game that is an absolute Best case for RTX to perform well, are barely acceptable. aka unless you spend 1200 on a graphics card, RTX is a marketing blurb with no Practical use. This is pretty normal for Nvidia, its usually 2-3 Generations before a New feature becomes actually practical. DONT buy a 2000 series card for RTX, a feature which the low and midrange cards dont have enough performance to support. If Nvidia stays true to form it wont work properly on high end ( 1000+) cards until the 3000 series and midrange ( 500) until 4000 series RTX cards. Raw performance is the only metric to use if buying a card today, in the price brackets where Nvidia has competition, RTX simply doesnt matter in any practical, real world, sense.
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So FPS levels on a 2080TI in a game that is an absolute Best case for RTX to perform well, are barely acceptable. aka unless you spend 1200 on a graphics card, RTX is a marketing blurb with no Practical use. This is pretty normal for Nvidia, its usually 2-3 Generations before a New feature becomes actually practical. DONT buy a 2000 series card for RTX, a feature which the low and midrange cards dont have enough performance to support. If Nvidia stays true to form it wont work properly on high end ( 1000+) cards until the 3000 series and midrange ( 500) until 4000 series RTX cards. Raw performance is the only metric to use if buying a card today, in the price brackets where Nvidia has competition, RTX simply doesnt matter in any practical, real world, sense.
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CaptCrunch911
So sad that without DLSS, you couldn't run minecraft smoothly. This generation of RTX isn't even powerful to run its own features. That is the true disappointment. Maybe next generation, we might have cards that are actually ready for RTX. Edit: I never expected DLSS which had the purpose of helping graphics cards run smoother at higher resolutions. would be used to help a 2080 ti get over 60fps in minecraft. Don't get me wrong, I truly believe RTX minecraft is amazing, but it feels like we are struggling at the highest tier specs to even run it. When the next generation of RTX does come out, I hope to see you benchmark it Steve.
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So sad that without DLSS, you couldn't run minecraft smoothly. This generation of RTX isn't even powerful to run its own features. That is the true disappointment. Maybe next generation, we might have cards that are actually ready for RTX. Edit: I never expected DLSS which had the purpose of helping graphics cards run smoother at higher resolutions. would be used to help a 2080 ti get over 60fps in minecraft. Don't get me wrong, I truly believe RTX minecraft is amazing, but it feels like we are struggling at the highest tier specs to even run it. When the next generation of RTX does come out, I hope to see you benchmark it Steve.
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Daktyl
Steve, I don't mean to question your testing methodology, but there's no way a GTX 2080 Super couldn't go above 60fps with 14+ chunks loaded (non-RTX. I know it's anecdotal, but my RX 480 from years ago on MODDED minecraft gets over 70fps at a 15 chunk draw distance, and vanilla minecraft with raytraced shaders (SUES PTGI) gets average 60fps at 12 chunk draw distance. And that's on Java Minecraft, which is known to be significantly slower than the C++ based Bedrock edition, which is the edition that got RTX support. Just wondering what could have possibly stunted your performance so much in this case.
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Steve, I don't mean to question your testing methodology, but there's no way a GTX 2080 Super couldn't go above 60fps with 14+ chunks loaded (non-RTX. I know it's anecdotal, but my RX 480 from years ago on MODDED minecraft gets over 70fps at a 15 chunk draw distance, and vanilla minecraft with raytraced shaders (SUES PTGI) gets average 60fps at 12 chunk draw distance. And that's on Java Minecraft, which is known to be significantly slower than the C++ based Bedrock edition, which is the edition that got RTX support. Just wondering what could have possibly stunted your performance so much in this case.
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Skylancer727
Ironic that the Sonic Ether mod actually runs better than Nvidia's official RTX patch. Plus last night I went on to Minecraft and found a few resource packs that look nearly as good as RTX without more than a 20% hit to performance even adding colored shadows and reflections just like ray tracing, though the obvious fact it used screen space reflection. Though it also added the ability for leaves and plants to blow in the wind which also effected their shadows so I'd still say I'd prefer the resource pack, even if shadows don't evenly fade over distance nor does it have immaculate reflections.
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Ironic that the Sonic Ether mod actually runs better than Nvidia's official RTX patch. Plus last night I went on to Minecraft and found a few resource packs that look nearly as good as RTX without more than a 20% hit to performance even adding colored shadows and reflections just like ray tracing, though the obvious fact it used screen space reflection. Though it also added the ability for leaves and plants to blow in the wind which also effected their shadows so I'd still say I'd prefer the resource pack, even if shadows don't evenly fade over distance nor does it have immaculate reflections.
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Jesse
can you comment on this steve. its being advertised on nvidia as a free rtx beta trial and when I install xbox on my pc it wants me to buy the windows 10 Minecraft just to try rtx if you ask me that's a bit of a disappointment because 1 I cant stand the a way the mouse feels on the xbox windows game and 2 I feel like they just want to charge us whether we like or can even use rtx so im not gonna pay 25bucks just to try RTX out real quick. heck I already paid for a Mojang copy they need to make it where if we already own the game then we have rights to the windows 10 copy as well
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can you comment on this steve. its being advertised on nvidia as a free rtx beta trial and when I install xbox on my pc it wants me to buy the windows 10 Minecraft just to try rtx if you ask me that's a bit of a disappointment because 1 I cant stand the a way the mouse feels on the xbox windows game and 2 I feel like they just want to charge us whether we like or can even use rtx so im not gonna pay 25bucks just to try RTX out real quick. heck I already paid for a Mojang copy they need to make it where if we already own the game then we have rights to the windows 10 copy as well
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UKJon
I wonder if my overpriced Nvidia 2080 super will ever earn it's pay by giving me the FPS l bought it for. the tensa cores are useless as ray tracing nerfs your FPS and unless l stand still and look in a puddle or stare at a window l don't notice it at all. l will buy amd if rDNA 2 cards compete. If we all had a card that hit 240 FPS at 4 k would we upgrade for years? Looks to me like ray tracing is to hold back FPS so they can sell us a new card every year that give you extra 30 FPS a time. Intel did it with quad core CPUs keeping us stuck there for years until and saved us
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I wonder if my overpriced Nvidia 2080 super will ever earn it's pay by giving me the FPS l bought it for. the tensa cores are useless as ray tracing nerfs your FPS and unless l stand still and look in a puddle or stare at a window l don't notice it at all. l will buy amd if rDNA 2 cards compete. If we all had a card that hit 240 FPS at 4 k would we upgrade for years? Looks to me like ray tracing is to hold back FPS so they can sell us a new card every year that give you extra 30 FPS a time. Intel did it with quad core CPUs keeping us stuck there for years until and saved us
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loak3d
gotta love when a 10+yr old game incorporates new graphical rendering techniques that absolutely DESTROY. 700-1800 GPU's from late 2018. i really am curious to see how and if console games will wind up adapting Ray tracing features, and if they do to what extent given performance impact. I know AMD has image sharpening, and Nvidia has DLSS, and maybe these one day make viable solutions. The IQ is certainly improved in 2. 0 over previous iterations. that's not saying much though. as previous iterations made 4 out of 5 games applied to, just unbearable to look at imo.
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gotta love when a 10+yr old game incorporates new graphical rendering techniques that absolutely DESTROY. 700-1800 GPU's from late 2018. i really am curious to see how and if console games will wind up adapting Ray tracing features, and if they do to what extent given performance impact. I know AMD has image sharpening, and Nvidia has DLSS, and maybe these one day make viable solutions. The IQ is certainly improved in 2. 0 over previous iterations. that's not saying much though. as previous iterations made 4 out of 5 games applied to, just unbearable to look at imo.
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Michael
must be nice, i can't even try this with my rtx 2080 because gigabyte denied my RMA because i changed the thermal pads. when i called and said that was illegal and asked for a manager they changed their story to i incorrectly applied thermal pads. which is BS because how can i incorrectly apply arctic thermal pads? also the pads are on 4 of the ram because the stock pads were wearing down and dirty so why did all 8 sticks of ram die? i hate how they blame consumers for their issues. now i'm out 800 bucks because a billion dollar company can't honor their warranty.
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must be nice, i can't even try this with my rtx 2080 because gigabyte denied my RMA because i changed the thermal pads. when i called and said that was illegal and asked for a manager they changed their story to i incorrectly applied thermal pads. which is BS because how can i incorrectly apply arctic thermal pads? also the pads are on 4 of the ram because the stock pads were wearing down and dirty so why did all 8 sticks of ram die? i hate how they blame consumers for their issues. now i'm out 800 bucks because a billion dollar company can't honor their warranty.
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Βασίλειος
its not even the same game java (the original version) is what most ppl play rtx only works in the cpp version (bedrock) bedrock performs better but its practicaly a different game-engine bedrock misses many features from the original java edition but also introduse some new ones the bedrock multiplayer comunity is way much smaller bedrock runs on windows-xbox-smartphones java (edition) runs on pc(windows-linux) and mac
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its not even the same game java (the original version) is what most ppl play rtx only works in the cpp version (bedrock) bedrock performs better but its practicaly a different game-engine bedrock misses many features from the original java edition but also introduse some new ones the bedrock multiplayer comunity is way much smaller bedrock runs on windows-xbox-smartphones java (edition) runs on pc(windows-linux) and mac
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