Tearing Down Trash: AMD XFX RX 6500 XT Disassembly
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Date: 2022-01-22
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magottyk
Is there such a thing as a Laptop GPU when practically every die made has a discrete variant.
Given the push with DLSS/NIR, FSR/RSR, XeSS the card seems to have been built with wafer limits and those tools in mind to optimise the cores for maximum performance and not overflow the VRAM with native high/extreme settings.
Likely with those additional reviewer requirements the die size would have meant fewer cards in the market and a price up around 250 with the scalpers closing in on release day so no one who wanted one for gaming would have beat the bots and they'd be 500.
As it is I got one at MSRP, and the next day it went from AUD 319 (roughly US 200 +GST) to AUD 439 for the Sapphire Pulse.
I bought one because you can't run RSR on an RX570 (yet) and it's RSR that may make the thing perform at 1660/super levels with the same settings. If it can do it in Hitman 3, there's no reason why it can't do it in other games optimally configured.
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Is there such a thing as a Laptop GPU when practically every die made has a discrete variant.
Given the push with DLSS/NIR, FSR/RSR, XeSS the card seems to have been built with wafer limits and those tools in mind to optimise the cores for maximum performance and not overflow the VRAM with native high/extreme settings.
Likely with those additional reviewer requirements the die size would have meant fewer cards in the market and a price up around 250 with the scalpers closing in on release day so no one who wanted one for gaming would have beat the bots and they'd be 500.
As it is I got one at MSRP, and the next day it went from AUD 319 (roughly US 200 +GST) to AUD 439 for the Sapphire Pulse.
I bought one because you can't run RSR on an RX570 (yet) and it's RSR that may make the thing perform at 1660/super levels with the same settings. If it can do it in Hitman 3, there's no reason why it can't do it in other games optimally configured.
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TheJuggtron
As built, these things are made to be E-Waste - as a desktop card, you would almost be better off resurrecting an old R7 250, maybe except for the memory limitation, hell, the RX 460 makes more sense - they could even use the cheaper fab capacity.
As an owner of a DG1 ((and happy with it) with the most hated CPU name, the 1165G7 :D) laptop though, you could see the original segment they aimed for was competition for DG1 style hybrids and the power figures were not as good as they wanted.
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As built, these things are made to be E-Waste - as a desktop card, you would almost be better off resurrecting an old R7 250, maybe except for the memory limitation, hell, the RX 460 makes more sense - they could even use the cheaper fab capacity.
As an owner of a DG1 ((and happy with it) with the most hated CPU name, the 1165G7 :D) laptop though, you could see the original segment they aimed for was competition for DG1 style hybrids and the power figures were not as good as they wanted.
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Patrik
Why are you shaming it so much? i get that it have wrong name and high price, proper name will be 6400/6300 and price around 130 eur (scalper times :( ).
4 pcie lanes as downside ? that low end card doesnt need more....
It may be interesting if it is in reality CPU with iGPU and only iGPU active, maybe search for laptop ryzen and compare it ?
I have 5800HS and it looked similar.
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Why are you shaming it so much? i get that it have wrong name and high price, proper name will be 6400/6300 and price around 130 eur (scalper times :( ).
4 pcie lanes as downside ? that low end card doesnt need more....
It may be interesting if it is in reality CPU with iGPU and only iGPU active, maybe search for laptop ryzen and compare it ?
I have 5800HS and it looked similar.
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Alchemetica
Thanks for the explanation of the heat cooling system and the tear down. I'm hanging out to build a new system with at least some viability in terms of length of life to meet video and GFX apps system requirements but the price of GFX cards in OZ (if you can find them in stock) almost equals the price of the rest of my planned new complete build. I say death to miners.
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Thanks for the explanation of the heat cooling system and the tear down. I'm hanging out to build a new system with at least some viability in terms of length of life to meet video and GFX apps system requirements but the price of GFX cards in OZ (if you can find them in stock) almost equals the price of the rest of my planned new complete build. I say death to miners.
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Bin
I'm gonna be the unpopular opinion here and say, if it's originally for laptop but moved to desktop, and close to the rx580 in performance, then it's a good thing that there are more Rx 580 on the market now so that at least it doesn't worsen the shortage. Unlike the 2060 12gb and 3080 12gb which took existing GPU and move up in price
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I'm gonna be the unpopular opinion here and say, if it's originally for laptop but moved to desktop, and close to the rx580 in performance, then it's a good thing that there are more Rx 580 on the market now so that at least it doesn't worsen the shortage. Unlike the 2060 12gb and 3080 12gb which took existing GPU and move up in price
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Raging
Looks like Steve really doesn't like XFX, lol. I had bought a pair of XFX RX480s years ago, and sold them after I upgraded to a Vega card. A couple of weeks later, the guy that I sold them to told me one of them started leaking something. I do believe they were still under warranty, so it was probably taken care of.
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Looks like Steve really doesn't like XFX, lol. I had bought a pair of XFX RX480s years ago, and sold them after I upgraded to a Vega card. A couple of weeks later, the guy that I sold them to told me one of them started leaking something. I do believe they were still under warranty, so it was probably taken care of.
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Mauricio
I don't dislike the ideia behind this GPU, it's just a shame they removed some key features from the GPU..and cheaped out on the ram...a 6 or 8GB version with the Decode hardware would actually be quite nice..such a small die will probably help on keeping it stocked..but like this it's pretty useless
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I don't dislike the ideia behind this GPU, it's just a shame they removed some key features from the GPU..and cheaped out on the ram...a 6 or 8GB version with the Decode hardware would actually be quite nice..such a small die will probably help on keeping it stocked..but like this it's pretty useless
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PC
Should have been low profile.
Reduce power usage to be PCIe slot power only.
Scratch the backplate(cost reduction side benefit).
The x4 link limitation might be because it might have been a mobile chip with only x4 links physically.
Don't think it required this amount of cooling.
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Should have been low profile.
Reduce power usage to be PCIe slot power only.
Scratch the backplate(cost reduction side benefit).
The x4 link limitation might be because it might have been a mobile chip with only x4 links physically.
Don't think it required this amount of cooling.
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WaschBaer
btw, warranty stiuckers are just not illegal in the us , they will not change it at all , and im sure its not illegal unless they want to enforce it, aslong as its just up there and they accept that they have to give it warranty even if broken, then its ok, or am i wrong here ?
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btw, warranty stiuckers are just not illegal in the us , they will not change it at all , and im sure its not illegal unless they want to enforce it, aslong as its just up there and they accept that they have to give it warranty even if broken, then its ok, or am i wrong here ?
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