Ryzen Boost Clocks vs. BIOS: AMD AGESA 1002 vs. 1003a/b Differences
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Date: 2020-05-06
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MrBall
i dont care about bios and cpu lottery. if its advertised to boost single core at 4. 2Ghz then it have to boost atleast 4. 2 Ghz and i will never accept a boost of 4. 125Ghz and will return the cpu as faulty or defective as it atleast doesnt match what is advertised. By this, nobody should accept false advertising. Now this sayed ive seen on benchmarks by youtubers the 4. 125 Ghz single core boost on the ryzen 3000 series and i didnt saw alot of people complaining about because it could damage the hype bubble and the good news show. same as i didnt saw real core to core, thread vs thread between AMD and intel and it makes me sad that reviewers are feeding the AMD fanboys and the hype bubble with the price vs performance statement and trying to push peoples view away from what benchmarks are about, the performance. 3800X vs 9900K and 3600X vs 8700K is what should have been showed all max overclocked to see the potential of core performance because at the end of the day almost everything and everybody beside specific tasks will only use single core. Yes AMD is cheap well atleast vs intel but they arent so cheap anymore (3800X cost 439 euro, 9900K 539 euro )and ofcorse a 12 core will beat en 8 core in multithread, you dont need to benchmark it to know that but what if intel commes with a 10 core that beats the 12 core? bubble popped? hype over again? yea i prefer reality and not hypes. But hey keep up with the good news party. Me i will wait until AMD single core performance is on par with intel before to order the booze.
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i dont care about bios and cpu lottery. if its advertised to boost single core at 4. 2Ghz then it have to boost atleast 4. 2 Ghz and i will never accept a boost of 4. 125Ghz and will return the cpu as faulty or defective as it atleast doesnt match what is advertised. By this, nobody should accept false advertising. Now this sayed ive seen on benchmarks by youtubers the 4. 125 Ghz single core boost on the ryzen 3000 series and i didnt saw alot of people complaining about because it could damage the hype bubble and the good news show. same as i didnt saw real core to core, thread vs thread between AMD and intel and it makes me sad that reviewers are feeding the AMD fanboys and the hype bubble with the price vs performance statement and trying to push peoples view away from what benchmarks are about, the performance. 3800X vs 9900K and 3600X vs 8700K is what should have been showed all max overclocked to see the potential of core performance because at the end of the day almost everything and everybody beside specific tasks will only use single core. Yes AMD is cheap well atleast vs intel but they arent so cheap anymore (3800X cost 439 euro, 9900K 539 euro )and ofcorse a 12 core will beat en 8 core in multithread, you dont need to benchmark it to know that but what if intel commes with a 10 core that beats the 12 core? bubble popped? hype over again? yea i prefer reality and not hypes. But hey keep up with the good news party. Me i will wait until AMD single core performance is on par with intel before to order the booze.
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Spike
Been following for several years now and always appreciate both the content and effort. . in this time of great excitement, however, I am finding myself extremely put off. and the AMD Marketing Machine is to credit once more - Why have you and your crew killed yourselfs to get the review content out so quickly? .and why did I stay up all night going into the 7th to make my order? . Because AMD defines Available worldwide as in two weeks or so (not great math). so a reality check says you could have taken your 120 hours of testing and spread it over three weeks (leaving a bit of time for some downhill runs). and I could have saved being a Zombie all day at work on Monday! yeah, I friggin' ordered the dang thing eventually. but, note to AMD - available on 7 July does not mean 25 July. just in case you missed that - and the bigger question is - why was that necessary - because it completely disrespects your supporters (I mean the real ones. not the guys in the red shirts in the first three rows)
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Been following for several years now and always appreciate both the content and effort. . in this time of great excitement, however, I am finding myself extremely put off. and the AMD Marketing Machine is to credit once more - Why have you and your crew killed yourselfs to get the review content out so quickly? .and why did I stay up all night going into the 7th to make my order? . Because AMD defines Available worldwide as in two weeks or so (not great math). so a reality check says you could have taken your 120 hours of testing and spread it over three weeks (leaving a bit of time for some downhill runs). and I could have saved being a Zombie all day at work on Monday! yeah, I friggin' ordered the dang thing eventually. but, note to AMD - available on 7 July does not mean 25 July. just in case you missed that - and the bigger question is - why was that necessary - because it completely disrespects your supporters (I mean the real ones. not the guys in the red shirts in the first three rows)
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Avery
I bought a dell inspiron 5676 for 629 on amazon about a month ago with a ryzen 7 2700 and rx580 4gb model. the problem i have with it is that it doesnt boost to its rate 4. 1ghz on any core, it justs stays at 3350mhz on all cores and doesnt boost at all. ryzen master doesnt launch either it just says not responding every time i try to open it. i also looked at the bios and the cpu speed is 3200 mhz and it doesnt give me any options to change anything, not even the voltage. the problem isnt temperature because its 35C at idie and 47C when gaming. i just want to know if its the motherboard thats stopping me from getting my boost clock. ohh and on cpuid hardware monitor the min is 2600mhz and the max is around 3600mhz, but i never see anything higher then 3350mhz on msi afterburner. Dell Inspiron Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor, 16GB DRAM, 1TB HDD, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card, Windows 10 64-bit, Blue LED, Model Number: i5676-A696Blu t
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I bought a dell inspiron 5676 for 629 on amazon about a month ago with a ryzen 7 2700 and rx580 4gb model. the problem i have with it is that it doesnt boost to its rate 4. 1ghz on any core, it justs stays at 3350mhz on all cores and doesnt boost at all. ryzen master doesnt launch either it just says not responding every time i try to open it. i also looked at the bios and the cpu speed is 3200 mhz and it doesnt give me any options to change anything, not even the voltage. the problem isnt temperature because its 35C at idie and 47C when gaming. i just want to know if its the motherboard thats stopping me from getting my boost clock. ohh and on cpuid hardware monitor the min is 2600mhz and the max is around 3600mhz, but i never see anything higher then 3350mhz on msi afterburner. Dell Inspiron Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor, 16GB DRAM, 1TB HDD, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card, Windows 10 64-bit, Blue LED, Model Number: i5676-A696Blu t
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Paul
Steve we love you, please sleep: -) People will always be people and I think a lot of them were just super disappointed because of the all core clocks being just about 100MHz shy of what people were hoping for. You all have done a fantastic job as always especially with so much to cover. I don't know how AMD and the MOBO manufacturers still botched the microcode and BIOS revs on x570 when they were tickling our nipples for months with leak after leak and silly videos talking about the launch. We knew about 7/7 for over 6 months and that's on AMD for getting samples to vendors late and for not having final AGESA code at launch. Nothing any of you could have or would have done could have prevented some errors from creeping in. I keep hoping they will get better each subsequent release but they don't and it isn't your fault. TLDR get some rest and thank you for always going above and far beyond to get to the heart of all your stories and reviews.
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Steve we love you, please sleep: -) People will always be people and I think a lot of them were just super disappointed because of the all core clocks being just about 100MHz shy of what people were hoping for. You all have done a fantastic job as always especially with so much to cover. I don't know how AMD and the MOBO manufacturers still botched the microcode and BIOS revs on x570 when they were tickling our nipples for months with leak after leak and silly videos talking about the launch. We knew about 7/7 for over 6 months and that's on AMD for getting samples to vendors late and for not having final AGESA code at launch. Nothing any of you could have or would have done could have prevented some errors from creeping in. I keep hoping they will get better each subsequent release but they don't and it isn't your fault. TLDR get some rest and thank you for always going above and far beyond to get to the heart of all your stories and reviews.
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Brolivia
interesting, I've got a 3900x on a x470 taichi mobo, with a noctua nh-d15 and I've seen various single cores boost to 4. 65. What's more, is that on my particular cpu is that cores 1 - 6 will reach those speeds at various times, while cores 7 - 12 will get to about 4. 5 - 4. 57. I wonder if this behaviour is the same on other 3900x's too? < theory > In order to reach those boost speeds, the chipletts are binned, but those higher quality chiplets are limited in number. Since the 3900x uses two chiplets, have one of them be the better binned that can reach 4. 6(or better) and the other be a 'good-but-not-as-good' chiplet. And why? so they can have more 3900x's in order to keep the prices down to 500. - this is based upon a sample size of one, lol
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interesting, I've got a 3900x on a x470 taichi mobo, with a noctua nh-d15 and I've seen various single cores boost to 4. 65. What's more, is that on my particular cpu is that cores 1 - 6 will reach those speeds at various times, while cores 7 - 12 will get to about 4. 5 - 4. 57. I wonder if this behaviour is the same on other 3900x's too? < theory > In order to reach those boost speeds, the chipletts are binned, but those higher quality chiplets are limited in number. Since the 3900x uses two chiplets, have one of them be the better binned that can reach 4. 6(or better) and the other be a 'good-but-not-as-good' chiplet. And why? so they can have more 3900x's in order to keep the prices down to 500. - this is based upon a sample size of one, lol
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Will
well today I received the toolkit and hoodie from Nexus USA. was going to do a Nexus Style review ( using my mobile ) testing the magnetism of the screwdrivers with how many washers they could lift etc and generally taking the piss out of Steve but I am tooo lazy. anyway slightly disappointed in the toolkit but I should have looked more because I would have liked a normal screwdriver as I will use it for lots of things and the hoodie was a lot lighter then I expected ( in the wash at the moment) But anyway, the idea was to give a sort of donation to Gamers Nexus so not unhappy btw: had obtained a long wig. oh well, I guess noone would have understood a word I said
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well today I received the toolkit and hoodie from Nexus USA. was going to do a Nexus Style review ( using my mobile ) testing the magnetism of the screwdrivers with how many washers they could lift etc and generally taking the piss out of Steve but I am tooo lazy. anyway slightly disappointed in the toolkit but I should have looked more because I would have liked a normal screwdriver as I will use it for lots of things and the hoodie was a lot lighter then I expected ( in the wash at the moment) But anyway, the idea was to give a sort of donation to Gamers Nexus so not unhappy btw: had obtained a long wig. oh well, I guess noone would have understood a word I said
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paul
I Wish my R5 3600 was unaffected, i have the Latest Bios V18 on my Msi B450 gaming pro carbon ac it doesn't boost past 4096Mhz single core and 3996Mhz all core doesn't matter what power plan i use or even if i use PBO, PBO+ autoOC and stock the results are exactly the same, same cinebench scores also, No matter what i do, HWinfo and Cpu-z show my core multiplier is capped at 41 for some unknown reason. the ONLY way to get it to hit the 4. 2 is to enable Game boost in the bios which i shouldn't have to do. SO i hope Msi get their act together and fix this issue
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I Wish my R5 3600 was unaffected, i have the Latest Bios V18 on my Msi B450 gaming pro carbon ac it doesn't boost past 4096Mhz single core and 3996Mhz all core doesn't matter what power plan i use or even if i use PBO, PBO+ autoOC and stock the results are exactly the same, same cinebench scores also, No matter what i do, HWinfo and Cpu-z show my core multiplier is capped at 41 for some unknown reason. the ONLY way to get it to hit the 4. 2 is to enable Game boost in the bios which i shouldn't have to do. SO i hope Msi get their act together and fix this issue
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SuspiciousEd
I might have missed where it was said in the video, but does this mean that the new BIOS fixes the issue and it hits 4. 6 GHz with no benefit, or does it mean that the issue persists and it still won't reach its full rated speed? If it's hitting 4. 6 GHz, then how does gaining hundreds of MHz not boost performance beyond margin of error? If it still isn't hitting it's rated boost clock then what is the problem? I would be very upset if I got a 500 chip and discovered that it doesn't hit its rated top speed out of the box.
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I might have missed where it was said in the video, but does this mean that the new BIOS fixes the issue and it hits 4. 6 GHz with no benefit, or does it mean that the issue persists and it still won't reach its full rated speed? If it's hitting 4. 6 GHz, then how does gaining hundreds of MHz not boost performance beyond margin of error? If it still isn't hitting it's rated boost clock then what is the problem? I would be very upset if I got a 500 chip and discovered that it doesn't hit its rated top speed out of the box.
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bardacuda82
Go to sleep. but just quickly before you do, can you put an aftermarket air cooler on the 5700XT and do some benchmarks to simulate AIB cards? Oh, and also benchmarks with a liquid cooler. and some liquid nitrogen overclocking. Right! Almost forgot, try and do some BIOS or PP table modding with it. Aside from that, the only other thing is 3900X benchmarks with high end cooling too, and at different memory frequencies. But after that, totally take a break and get some rest.
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Go to sleep. but just quickly before you do, can you put an aftermarket air cooler on the 5700XT and do some benchmarks to simulate AIB cards? Oh, and also benchmarks with a liquid cooler. and some liquid nitrogen overclocking. Right! Almost forgot, try and do some BIOS or PP table modding with it. Aside from that, the only other thing is 3900X benchmarks with high end cooling too, and at different memory frequencies. But after that, totally take a break and get some rest.
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Whiskey
Steve, you are working too hard. Great videos, fascinating data, but adrenaline has its limits. Burnout is real. I am going to wait and see how it all shakes out over the next few weeks. I want that Aorus Xtreme but will probably settle for the Master. The 3900X looks great, but I will let the MB bios flurry settle down. I might need new ram. Got to check buildzoid now. Well, buildzoid is going to Taiwan for a week, so he'll maybe have info in a couple of weeks.
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Steve, you are working too hard. Great videos, fascinating data, but adrenaline has its limits. Burnout is real. I am going to wait and see how it all shakes out over the next few weeks. I want that Aorus Xtreme but will probably settle for the Master. The 3900X looks great, but I will let the MB bios flurry settle down. I might need new ram. Got to check buildzoid now. Well, buildzoid is going to Taiwan for a week, so he'll maybe have info in a couple of weeks.
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