Round-Up: AMD Threadripper 3 TRX40 Motherboards for 3970X & 3960X
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Rhynri
Can we just talk for a second about how all these ostensibly workstation oriented motherboards come with all this extra garbage tacked on? Where is my workstation motherboard that has an SFP+ slot and no bling on it? We don't need a sound solution taking up board space, I'd gladly trade it for an M. 2 or better yet, a U. 2. Why do most of these have wifi? If I want wifi I can add it via USB. I doubt most people's rendering rigs are transferring the final product via wifi. The best way to make use of the massive amount of PCIe these chips have is to allow the user to make those decisions and NONE of these boards do that. Give me a boatload of PCIe slots in 16x, 8x, 4x crammed in every square inch and let me chose how to use them. I can add M. 2 if I want, wifi if I want. These boards restrict choice unnecessarily and look silly and all that extra tracing has weird side effects like Asus's DIMM. 2 slot making the system hiccup under heavy load.
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Can we just talk for a second about how all these ostensibly workstation oriented motherboards come with all this extra garbage tacked on? Where is my workstation motherboard that has an SFP+ slot and no bling on it? We don't need a sound solution taking up board space, I'd gladly trade it for an M. 2 or better yet, a U. 2. Why do most of these have wifi? If I want wifi I can add it via USB. I doubt most people's rendering rigs are transferring the final product via wifi. The best way to make use of the massive amount of PCIe these chips have is to allow the user to make those decisions and NONE of these boards do that. Give me a boatload of PCIe slots in 16x, 8x, 4x crammed in every square inch and let me chose how to use them. I can add M. 2 if I want, wifi if I want. These boards restrict choice unnecessarily and look silly and all that extra tracing has weird side effects like Asus's DIMM. 2 slot making the system hiccup under heavy load.
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Aviel
Man, i have watched 3 times your video and I still cant decide what motherboard to buy it is the last piece before i press Order now. I have a full tower already, so space is not an issue. I have chosen AMD 24 core. 64 to 128 RAM. But gush, i have gone back and forth with the mother board. At first i was impressed by the 10G LAN but then i thought what company provider in the world can deliver 10G/s internet? Where i live my average is 50mb/s because it is wireless, yet agaun max in Israel is 100mb/s so i dont get why 10g are being market So, i can't decide which one. Oh i forgot, i have chose gpu msi 11G so it will basicly goes with any of this mother board. I like the idea of the wify because my router is in another room. I am building my pc for video editing. I dont play game, but i do want a powerful machine for many years to come. Thank you for your insight
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Man, i have watched 3 times your video and I still cant decide what motherboard to buy it is the last piece before i press Order now. I have a full tower already, so space is not an issue. I have chosen AMD 24 core. 64 to 128 RAM. But gush, i have gone back and forth with the mother board. At first i was impressed by the 10G LAN but then i thought what company provider in the world can deliver 10G/s internet? Where i live my average is 50mb/s because it is wireless, yet agaun max in Israel is 100mb/s so i dont get why 10g are being market So, i can't decide which one. Oh i forgot, i have chose gpu msi 11G so it will basicly goes with any of this mother board. I like the idea of the wify because my router is in another room. I am building my pc for video editing. I dont play game, but i do want a powerful machine for many years to come. Thank you for your insight
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Tcll5850
I'm still waiting for a motherboard with 10 PCIe x16 (x16) slots UATX certainly supports it, though EATX would support 16 RAM slots I could care less about M. 2 since with the way I manage data, those SSDs would be dead within 10 years I'm better off using PCIe RAID cards on HAMR HDDs, unless someone actually has the guts to get MRAM SSDs going for me. and yes before you ask, I could actually use 10 PCIe slots for either networking or RAID if not GPU compute with AMD if Xilinx would reduce their prices I could also use a few of those for electronics development on PCIe x16 in this modern age, there's no reason NOT to provide motherboards with more than 5 PCIe x16 slots and ACTUALLY provide the lanes to back it up yes Intel, you suck so bad IBM looks 100x better than you and AMD combined.
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I'm still waiting for a motherboard with 10 PCIe x16 (x16) slots UATX certainly supports it, though EATX would support 16 RAM slots I could care less about M. 2 since with the way I manage data, those SSDs would be dead within 10 years I'm better off using PCIe RAID cards on HAMR HDDs, unless someone actually has the guts to get MRAM SSDs going for me. and yes before you ask, I could actually use 10 PCIe slots for either networking or RAID if not GPU compute with AMD if Xilinx would reduce their prices I could also use a few of those for electronics development on PCIe x16 in this modern age, there's no reason NOT to provide motherboards with more than 5 PCIe x16 slots and ACTUALLY provide the lanes to back it up yes Intel, you suck so bad IBM looks 100x better than you and AMD combined.
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Renato
It came across that in your review, you did not factor that, having a threadripper 64 PCE-lines in total, in different motherboards having x16 slots, those may actually not be real x16 but be just x8 or less (so your idea of putting a triple video card configuration would go down to the toilette, but, ironically, for the card you trashed in your review, the taichi one where all the x16 slots are, indeed, x16. For example if a card has 5 M. 2 drives, it uses already 20 lines for the M. 2; 4 are to connect the chip set and there are hence 40 left; add 2 x16 slots and you are down to 8 to be shared among the other 3 slots. Unless I am missing something the math does not support the board constructor claims and that should be, in my opinion, highlighted in a review.
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It came across that in your review, you did not factor that, having a threadripper 64 PCE-lines in total, in different motherboards having x16 slots, those may actually not be real x16 but be just x8 or less (so your idea of putting a triple video card configuration would go down to the toilette, but, ironically, for the card you trashed in your review, the taichi one where all the x16 slots are, indeed, x16. For example if a card has 5 M. 2 drives, it uses already 20 lines for the M. 2; 4 are to connect the chip set and there are hence 40 left; add 2 x16 slots and you are down to 8 to be shared among the other 3 slots. Unless I am missing something the math does not support the board constructor claims and that should be, in my opinion, highlighted in a review.
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drassx615
Thank you for the video, but I really needed it last week. A client wants to have a totally silent super powered workstation, finding a board without a fan or a fan that could be easily removed and a water block attached was a nightmare when for the most part there still aren't many places where we can see and closely examine the boards in my area. I've never been nervous doing a pc build before, but this one makes me nervous the grand total for just the parts going in it is just under six thousand us dollars, and that's before I get paid to put it all together, and some of the water cooling pieces are going to have to be custom made once we have the hardware in hand. If this build called for rigid tubing, I might not have accepted it at all. Thanks again.
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Thank you for the video, but I really needed it last week. A client wants to have a totally silent super powered workstation, finding a board without a fan or a fan that could be easily removed and a water block attached was a nightmare when for the most part there still aren't many places where we can see and closely examine the boards in my area. I've never been nervous doing a pc build before, but this one makes me nervous the grand total for just the parts going in it is just under six thousand us dollars, and that's before I get paid to put it all together, and some of the water cooling pieces are going to have to be custom made once we have the hardware in hand. If this build called for rigid tubing, I might not have accepted it at all. Thanks again.
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Brian
I really appreciate these vids from you guys however, with respect, you need to organize your thoughts better before you start talking. The number of unfinished sentences before darting off on another tack was driving me crazy. Again, I appreciated the info and comparo because there's some great info in there but just a little hard to follow the unorganized, disjointed and truncated narrative. Please don't take this as negativity as I don't want it to be - more constructive criticism for the next in-depth vid. Thank you, Cheers, Brian.
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I really appreciate these vids from you guys however, with respect, you need to organize your thoughts better before you start talking. The number of unfinished sentences before darting off on another tack was driving me crazy. Again, I appreciated the info and comparo because there's some great info in there but just a little hard to follow the unorganized, disjointed and truncated narrative. Please don't take this as negativity as I don't want it to be - more constructive criticism for the next in-depth vid. Thank you, Cheers, Brian.
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Salvatar
So looking into it a bit more, it looks like the io is there in most of these cases: they're exposed as headers on the board, meaning you need a case with the right ports on it and I'm sure plenty will come, Or those pci slot mounted port adapter things if you have one of those skyscraper cases. Or, if ya really need all your damn io ports right now, you could just. Cut holes in your case and attach your own connectors and header cables to it. Wherever you like: )
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So looking into it a bit more, it looks like the io is there in most of these cases: they're exposed as headers on the board, meaning you need a case with the right ports on it and I'm sure plenty will come, Or those pci slot mounted port adapter things if you have one of those skyscraper cases. Or, if ya really need all your damn io ports right now, you could just. Cut holes in your case and attach your own connectors and header cables to it. Wherever you like: )
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Sonic
Thanks I have been looking for a comparsion that goes into deatils not listed in a feature comparsion like what is actually any good, how about info on the bios etc Also having trouble with the Quadro RTX 8gb 4000 or Geforce 11gb 2080ti question if doing CAD like solidworks, rhino vectorworks and autodesk software AND 3d animation and modelling, like Z Brush, modo, video editing and visual effects like after effects and rendering / encoding as well as content creation
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Thanks I have been looking for a comparsion that goes into deatils not listed in a feature comparsion like what is actually any good, how about info on the bios etc Also having trouble with the Quadro RTX 8gb 4000 or Geforce 11gb 2080ti question if doing CAD like solidworks, rhino vectorworks and autodesk software AND 3d animation and modelling, like Z Brush, modo, video editing and visual effects like after effects and rendering / encoding as well as content creation
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Max
TR gave us a huge increase in mobo out jacks for USB slots on our case. And ZEN2 boards have the newest types of USB. An old case won't give you the latest USB jacks. IDK, TR from day one gave us so many CPU lanes for I/O that I run everything but Keyboard/mouse wireless dongles off the mobo. First gen Zenith Extreme/Thermaltake Core X9 had 4 USB ports on the front and a jack on the mobo for a type C USB.
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TR gave us a huge increase in mobo out jacks for USB slots on our case. And ZEN2 boards have the newest types of USB. An old case won't give you the latest USB jacks. IDK, TR from day one gave us so many CPU lanes for I/O that I run everything but Keyboard/mouse wireless dongles off the mobo. First gen Zenith Extreme/Thermaltake Core X9 had 4 USB ports on the front and a jack on the mobo for a type C USB.
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mapesdhs
32: 40 - There is NO excuse for not having a POST code & pwr/rst buttons on any mbd above 100. Asrock had them on its P55 Extreme years ago and that thing cost diddly squat. I hate the modern penny-pinching by mbd vendors of excluding things like this even when one is spending megabucks. It's shocking how many X470/X570 mbds don't have them either.
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32: 40 - There is NO excuse for not having a POST code & pwr/rst buttons on any mbd above 100. Asrock had them on its P55 Extreme years ago and that thing cost diddly squat. I hate the modern penny-pinching by mbd vendors of excluding things like this even when one is spending megabucks. It's shocking how many X470/X570 mbds don't have them either.
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