NVIDIA GTX 970 in 2021 Revisit: Benchmarks vs. 1080, 2060, 3070, 5700 XT, & More
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Date: 2021-01-10
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Shawn
Hi Steve,
I've reached a critical juncture in the adoption of ultrawide monitors and it has gained industry-wide support from top titles. developers, game engines, APIs and GPUs.
As you know I'm all in for ultrawide. 21:9 is important and core to the future of gaming, but it's also one part of manufacturers focused R&D efforts on revolutionizing video games and creating a better experience for gamers.
This philosophy is also reflected in developing technologies such as high framerates and high resolutions. I don't get free GPUs, I work hard for my money, and I keep my GPUs from multiple years.
Despite all this progress, your GPU reviews and recommendations have continued to focus singularly on 16:9 performance and you have largely discounted all of the other display ratios on offer for gamers.
It is very clear from your community commentary that you do not see things the same way that we, gamers, and the rest of the industry do. My views and likes are being allocated to media outlets that recognize the the changing landscape of gaming and the features that are important to gamers and anyone buying a monitor today. Be it for gaming, content creation, and/or streaming.
Gamers Nexus should continue to work with 16:9 users to secure views to grow. Of course you will still have access to my thoughts and prayers, that won't change. I am open to revisiting this in the future should your editorial direction change.
Shaun Miranda
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Hi Steve,
I've reached a critical juncture in the adoption of ultrawide monitors and it has gained industry-wide support from top titles. developers, game engines, APIs and GPUs.
As you know I'm all in for ultrawide. 21:9 is important and core to the future of gaming, but it's also one part of manufacturers focused R&D efforts on revolutionizing video games and creating a better experience for gamers.
This philosophy is also reflected in developing technologies such as high framerates and high resolutions. I don't get free GPUs, I work hard for my money, and I keep my GPUs from multiple years.
Despite all this progress, your GPU reviews and recommendations have continued to focus singularly on 16:9 performance and you have largely discounted all of the other display ratios on offer for gamers.
It is very clear from your community commentary that you do not see things the same way that we, gamers, and the rest of the industry do. My views and likes are being allocated to media outlets that recognize the the changing landscape of gaming and the features that are important to gamers and anyone buying a monitor today. Be it for gaming, content creation, and/or streaming.
Gamers Nexus should continue to work with 16:9 users to secure views to grow. Of course you will still have access to my thoughts and prayers, that won't change. I am open to revisiting this in the future should your editorial direction change.
Shaun Miranda
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mapesdhs
The VRAM FUD was such nonsense, it didn't make any practical difference to actual gameplay, reviewers didn't even notice an issue until they deliberately tested for it (yes the arch issue is real, it just doesn't actually matter for real world use). The GTX 970 is still a great card; if one is playing a game that might expose the VRAM design then by definition one is almost certainly playing st a complexity level that needs a better GPU than a 970 to achieve an acceptable fps rate anyway. The irony is that the scale of the FUD about the 970 meant that at least for a time the card was available 2nd-hand for really good prices. I obtained an MSI Gaming for my gf's PC, it runs very well indeed.
Dial back the details a little and the 970 can still run well. Check RandomGamingHD for examples.
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The VRAM FUD was such nonsense, it didn't make any practical difference to actual gameplay, reviewers didn't even notice an issue until they deliberately tested for it (yes the arch issue is real, it just doesn't actually matter for real world use). The GTX 970 is still a great card; if one is playing a game that might expose the VRAM design then by definition one is almost certainly playing st a complexity level that needs a better GPU than a 970 to achieve an acceptable fps rate anyway. The irony is that the scale of the FUD about the 970 meant that at least for a time the card was available 2nd-hand for really good prices. I obtained an MSI Gaming for my gf's PC, it runs very well indeed.
Dial back the details a little and the 970 can still run well. Check RandomGamingHD for examples.
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Melvin
Not even 400 FPS, lol
This reminds me of a story I was told from a friend about his brother.
His brother literally only plays one game, LoL, and he asked him to build a new pc for gaming, because LoL performed quite shitty on a laptop. The problem just was, that his brother is an Intel fanboy, but somehow my friend convinced him to go with the new 1st generation ryzen cpus. Sometime later, about a week after my friend built the pc, his brother was complaining about low fps in LoL. The framerate was approx 2000 and he called it unplayable.
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Not even 400 FPS, lol
This reminds me of a story I was told from a friend about his brother.
His brother literally only plays one game, LoL, and he asked him to build a new pc for gaming, because LoL performed quite shitty on a laptop. The problem just was, that his brother is an Intel fanboy, but somehow my friend convinced him to go with the new 1st generation ryzen cpus. Sometime later, about a week after my friend built the pc, his brother was complaining about low fps in LoL. The framerate was approx 2000 and he called it unplayable.
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mactipiak
Still rocking the Strix 970. My plan was to upgrade to a 2060 KO but Iwanted ntil the Nvidia announcement, the 3070 price to performance ratio made me very happy I didn't pull the trigger :D But I still haven't upgraded yet, as pointed in the conclusion my priority is to retire the i5 2500 to a media centre PC.Andprobably uprade the GPU later down the line, I don't mind playing low settings, so Cyberpunk would work with a modern CPU and the 970 for a bit (I played morrowind on a GeForce 2, I'm born ready for poor graphics settings :D )
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Still rocking the Strix 970. My plan was to upgrade to a 2060 KO but Iwanted ntil the Nvidia announcement, the 3070 price to performance ratio made me very happy I didn't pull the trigger :D But I still haven't upgraded yet, as pointed in the conclusion my priority is to retire the i5 2500 to a media centre PC.Andprobably uprade the GPU later down the line, I don't mind playing low settings, so Cyberpunk would work with a modern CPU and the 970 for a bit (I played morrowind on a GeForce 2, I'm born ready for poor graphics settings :D )
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Toni
i brought this card for a buddy of mine! his son wants a gaming pc ...ok his dad brought one... gaming pc ....it is a ryzen 3400g with 8gb 2666ram and one 256gb nvme SATA drive!...thats it!
he ask me before he purchase it and i told him, THIS IS NOT A GAMING PC!...But he wont believe...
anyway i told him, i know a buddy who has a 970 from msi!....it is 3 weeks ago, the prices are quite high!
i brought it for 60 ...ne exactly for 73.33 Dollar...
its a decent card for full hd gaming!
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i brought this card for a buddy of mine! his son wants a gaming pc ...ok his dad brought one... gaming pc ....it is a ryzen 3400g with 8gb 2666ram and one 256gb nvme SATA drive!...thats it!
he ask me before he purchase it and i told him, THIS IS NOT A GAMING PC!...But he wont believe...
anyway i told him, i know a buddy who has a 970 from msi!....it is 3 weeks ago, the prices are quite high!
i brought it for 60 ...ne exactly for 73.33 Dollar...
its a decent card for full hd gaming!
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itech
I am still rocking a 970. I have been holding off upgrading because I didn't want to make the 4k leap from 1080 until there were cards that could consistently hit good FPS in 4k for a decent price. If 3070s or 6800s were in stock, I would get one because 4k is comfortably doable now. Upgrading while still using 1080 seemed pointless until cyberpunk came out and I am pretty much stuck on low settings across the board.
Here is hoping GPU stocks will chill out soon.
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I am still rocking a 970. I have been holding off upgrading because I didn't want to make the 4k leap from 1080 until there were cards that could consistently hit good FPS in 4k for a decent price. If 3070s or 6800s were in stock, I would get one because 4k is comfortably doable now. Upgrading while still using 1080 seemed pointless until cyberpunk came out and I am pretty much stuck on low settings across the board.
Here is hoping GPU stocks will chill out soon.
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neo
My solution for the high prices: I sell my RX480 8GB now for a good price, get Geforce Now Founders for some months and buy a faster new card with more VRAM in late 2021. Actually I am looking forward to 12 GB cards (RTX 3060 (ultra?) and RX 6700/XT).
The RX480 8GB is still ok for gaming, but for me it is too slow (target >100 FPS in FHD with high/ultra settings in most actual games).
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My solution for the high prices: I sell my RX480 8GB now for a good price, get Geforce Now Founders for some months and buy a faster new card with more VRAM in late 2021. Actually I am looking forward to 12 GB cards (RTX 3060 (ultra?) and RX 6700/XT).
The RX480 8GB is still ok for gaming, but for me it is too slow (target >100 FPS in FHD with high/ultra settings in most actual games).
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Shredder
I tis a monster card.I have it since November 2014. And still run evrything max settings 1440p 30+ fps. Since then i have upgraded evrything else(monitor and psu in 2016, cpu ram motherboard and hdd in 2017) SSD in 2020. But gtx 970 still doing very well. If you dont beleive me ten see my videos. I play all action gmaes and most fighters. All of them maxex 1440p.
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I tis a monster card.I have it since November 2014. And still run evrything max settings 1440p 30+ fps. Since then i have upgraded evrything else(monitor and psu in 2016, cpu ram motherboard and hdd in 2017) SSD in 2020. But gtx 970 still doing very well. If you dont beleive me ten see my videos. I play all action gmaes and most fighters. All of them maxex 1440p.
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smakfu
So this is where we are? Man, 2021 is off to an inauspicious start if we're actually talking about used Maxwell GPU's as a viable option. Not that Maxwell was a bad GPU uArch, I still have a GTX980 in my old rig (not to mention Maxwell cores on my Nivida Jetson Nano), it's just a very weird time (and not in a good way) that we seem to be stuck in.
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So this is where we are? Man, 2021 is off to an inauspicious start if we're actually talking about used Maxwell GPU's as a viable option. Not that Maxwell was a bad GPU uArch, I still have a GTX980 in my old rig (not to mention Maxwell cores on my Nivida Jetson Nano), it's just a very weird time (and not in a good way) that we seem to be stuck in.
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