Million Dollar Water Block: How Water Cooling is Made Factory Tour in Taiwan
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Date: 2020-05-06
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anti
This was very interesting to me. As someone who's been in metal fab for almost 20 years I expected this video to be kind of boring. The fact that they run those bars for days on end is crazy and that they're using an oil spray/bath. In the US and most other places you'd likely see a mostly water coolant with other additives for viscosity (like they used later) Their recycling is a lot more effective as well going back to the metal distro. Pretty cool. I couldn't make out what kind of machines they use though because the badging looks different
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This was very interesting to me. As someone who's been in metal fab for almost 20 years I expected this video to be kind of boring. The fact that they run those bars for days on end is crazy and that they're using an oil spray/bath. In the US and most other places you'd likely see a mostly water coolant with other additives for viscosity (like they used later) Their recycling is a lot more effective as well going back to the metal distro. Pretty cool. I couldn't make out what kind of machines they use though because the badging looks different
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Janne
thank you for the great content. few terms for future usage: cnc chamber = cnc milling machine, also cnc chamber = cnc lathe (latter is the one where the stock spins, former the one where the stock is stationary. oil = coolant. Intresting to see how seemingly unoptimal part of the process is. It might be that the amount of parts run on the milling machines is so low that it doesn't require pallets and fixturing to make it economically viable. The lathes with the bar feeders seem to be much more optimized.
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thank you for the great content. few terms for future usage: cnc chamber = cnc milling machine, also cnc chamber = cnc lathe (latter is the one where the stock spins, former the one where the stock is stationary. oil = coolant. Intresting to see how seemingly unoptimal part of the process is. It might be that the amount of parts run on the milling machines is so low that it doesn't require pallets and fixturing to make it economically viable. The lathes with the bar feeders seem to be much more optimized.
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Luke
I ve been wanting to try an custom loop, but find the 475+ bykski/barrowch price for a Laing D5 with pump top and reservoir, two 240mm radiators, cpu block, the pricey GPU block, various fittings, acrylic/petg tubing, biocide, little tools, etc to be too expensive for now. EKWB wants 760 for this setup, and all I can think about is how well my 60 be quiet tower performs and the GPU upgrade that I could alternatively buy for the same money. Thanks for showing us why these items cost what they do.
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I ve been wanting to try an custom loop, but find the 475+ bykski/barrowch price for a Laing D5 with pump top and reservoir, two 240mm radiators, cpu block, the pricey GPU block, various fittings, acrylic/petg tubing, biocide, little tools, etc to be too expensive for now. EKWB wants 760 for this setup, and all I can think about is how well my 60 be quiet tower performs and the GPU upgrade that I could alternatively buy for the same money. Thanks for showing us why these items cost what they do.
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Izaac
As a former CNC mill operator and programmer (at one of the biggest screw/bolt maker for the car industry, Bulten AB) I found this quite interesting. I d love to see more about the actual CNC machines and their software. I used GibbsCAM 12, which was a hot mess filled with bugs and crashes. The workstation was pretty dope thou. Handled games pretty well during the 2+ hour jobs xD EDIT: I operated a Mazak Variaxis 500-5X II.
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As a former CNC mill operator and programmer (at one of the biggest screw/bolt maker for the car industry, Bulten AB) I found this quite interesting. I d love to see more about the actual CNC machines and their software. I used GibbsCAM 12, which was a hot mess filled with bugs and crashes. The workstation was pretty dope thou. Handled games pretty well during the 2+ hour jobs xD EDIT: I operated a Mazak Variaxis 500-5X II.
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aiGeis
I like how you took the time to spell out just how expensive it is to run a business; a fair amount of people are absurdly ignorant when it comes to perception of greed while looking over prices for seemingly basic products. I'm no fan of corporations or greedy capitalists/salesman who'll do anything to screw you over for a buck, although I just wish more people had an accurate view of the business' perspective.
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I like how you took the time to spell out just how expensive it is to run a business; a fair amount of people are absurdly ignorant when it comes to perception of greed while looking over prices for seemingly basic products. I'm no fan of corporations or greedy capitalists/salesman who'll do anything to screw you over for a buck, although I just wish more people had an accurate view of the business' perspective.
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ManMadeDesaster
doesnt look like they have 5 axis machines. Those would cut down machining times dramatically because you dont have to do multipass milling on an qngled surface but you can tilt/rotate the 4th/5th axis and just use a facemill ps. if you think you can only machine one piece at a time on a 5 axis, there are pyramid clamping things or Tombstones where you can machine more pieces at a time
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doesnt look like they have 5 axis machines. Those would cut down machining times dramatically because you dont have to do multipass milling on an qngled surface but you can tilt/rotate the 4th/5th axis and just use a facemill ps. if you think you can only machine one piece at a time on a 5 axis, there are pyramid clamping things or Tombstones where you can machine more pieces at a time
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spencerconstance
I'm pretty sure the lathes making the fittings are Ganesh (now Gen Turn) Cyclone 32 CS machines, or something close to it. We have one of them where I work, and while they aren't bad machines they definitely aren't as nice or fast as something like a Citizen or Tsugami swiss style screw machine. Probably plenty for what they are doing though.
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I'm pretty sure the lathes making the fittings are Ganesh (now Gen Turn) Cyclone 32 CS machines, or something close to it. We have one of them where I work, and while they aren't bad machines they definitely aren't as nice or fast as something like a Citizen or Tsugami swiss style screw machine. Probably plenty for what they are doing though.
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warp00009
After recently replacing my old liquid cooler with a NH-D15 (and it's awesome performance that is significantly better than the old cooler could provide, my new mantra regarding water cooling is Just Say No! (Lost my previous build when its liquid cooler failed and wrecked everything with a coolant leak. Never, ever want a failure like that again!
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After recently replacing my old liquid cooler with a NH-D15 (and it's awesome performance that is significantly better than the old cooler could provide, my new mantra regarding water cooling is Just Say No! (Lost my previous build when its liquid cooler failed and wrecked everything with a coolant leak. Never, ever want a failure like that again!
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Bryan
The fittings being turned looked more like brass than copper and since copper is much softer than brass it would not make a good fitting. I believe this might be a lost in translation issue because brass is an alloy of copper. Those are some really inexpensive CNC machines, over half the price of what is available in the states.
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The fittings being turned looked more like brass than copper and since copper is much softer than brass it would not make a good fitting. I believe this might be a lost in translation issue because brass is an alloy of copper. Those are some really inexpensive CNC machines, over half the price of what is available in the states.
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Guest
Nice, I love bitspower fittings, made me feel slightly less guilty for splurging on it recently. But at least I know why they cost so much! A question, does no WaterBlock manufacturer allows filming of the cooling fin machining process? I haven't found any, and it's an extremely interesting part
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Nice, I love bitspower fittings, made me feel slightly less guilty for splurging on it recently. But at least I know why they cost so much! A question, does no WaterBlock manufacturer allows filming of the cooling fin machining process? I haven't found any, and it's an extremely interesting part
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