Intel Arc Goes Where NVIDIA Won't: A580 GPU Benchmarks & Review vs. A750, RX 6600, & More
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Date: 2023-10-12
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Kardall
I am in need of a graphics card, and I am getting so frustrated with these GPU prices still... I have been putting it off for over 3 years now.
A770 for 430 but can't play Starfield
7700 XT for 610
7800 XT for 699
4070 Ti for 1060
I mean come on...
I would like to try out Ray Tracing, but I'm not putting out that much for a video card. Even used ones around here are around 600 and are not as good as 7800 XT's.
What I wish, is that The A580 could be what it's MSRP is when it is launched. The 189 for an A770 you are talking about for the Sparkle card, is not available on NewEgg at all. Not even out of stock, it just isn't listed. They have the LE one though. Which is 339 CAD / 209 USD (Which should be 283 CAD).
It's so sad and frustrating :(
My 5700 XT is getting long in the tooth...
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I am in need of a graphics card, and I am getting so frustrated with these GPU prices still... I have been putting it off for over 3 years now.
A770 for 430 but can't play Starfield
7700 XT for 610
7800 XT for 699
4070 Ti for 1060
I mean come on...
I would like to try out Ray Tracing, but I'm not putting out that much for a video card. Even used ones around here are around 600 and are not as good as 7800 XT's.
What I wish, is that The A580 could be what it's MSRP is when it is launched. The 189 for an A770 you are talking about for the Sparkle card, is not available on NewEgg at all. Not even out of stock, it just isn't listed. They have the LE one though. Which is 339 CAD / 209 USD (Which should be 283 CAD).
It's so sad and frustrating :(
My 5700 XT is getting long in the tooth...
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Slane583
I bought an ARC A770 back in July to play around with and so far it has been very promising. It wasn't really a replacement for my RX 5700XT per-se, more of wanting to try something different. I don't follow the newest AAA games as none of them really pique my interest, Starfield falling in that category. But everything that I play as far as games go run quite well on the A770, the Black Mesa remake of Half Life runs at high fps. My most played game, Sniper Elite 5, has the settings maxed out in quality and the internal resolution scaler is set to 140% to get more visual fidelity at 1080p. It runs like melted butter. :)
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I bought an ARC A770 back in July to play around with and so far it has been very promising. It wasn't really a replacement for my RX 5700XT per-se, more of wanting to try something different. I don't follow the newest AAA games as none of them really pique my interest, Starfield falling in that category. But everything that I play as far as games go run quite well on the A770, the Black Mesa remake of Half Life runs at high fps. My most played game, Sniper Elite 5, has the settings maxed out in quality and the internal resolution scaler is set to 140% to get more visual fidelity at 1080p. It runs like melted butter. :)
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Adam
I cant wait for next gen arc although I dont plan on replacing my GPU for the next 5 maybe more years, mainly for a couple reasons, 1. hopefully they fix the idle power usage which I think is down to the memory bus and related never clocking down unless the card is literally off, 2. hopefully we'll see less of starfield although it runs fine on my A770 but at around 50ish FPS regardless of graphics settings and the most recent driver did fix the light flickering issue.
anyway as said happy with my A770 16GB LE, had it since last year around this time.
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I cant wait for next gen arc although I dont plan on replacing my GPU for the next 5 maybe more years, mainly for a couple reasons, 1. hopefully they fix the idle power usage which I think is down to the memory bus and related never clocking down unless the card is literally off, 2. hopefully we'll see less of starfield although it runs fine on my A770 but at around 50ish FPS regardless of graphics settings and the most recent driver did fix the light flickering issue.
anyway as said happy with my A770 16GB LE, had it since last year around this time.
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Logan
I think this is crap, it's horrible, it has two 8 pin power connectors....what they should have done is made the A750 150 and not release this card at all. A card that can't play starfield and will never be able to play games properly like an amd or nvidia card in many cases. The only thing that will save Intel's GPU's is for an actually GOOD game, not garbage like starfield and cyberpunk, to run really really well on their cards for cheaper than the competition, in a compelling and blockbreaking way.
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I think this is crap, it's horrible, it has two 8 pin power connectors....what they should have done is made the A750 150 and not release this card at all. A card that can't play starfield and will never be able to play games properly like an amd or nvidia card in many cases. The only thing that will save Intel's GPU's is for an actually GOOD game, not garbage like starfield and cyberpunk, to run really really well on their cards for cheaper than the competition, in a compelling and blockbreaking way.
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Kesa
PC gaming is dead without good budget gpu choices - Intel knows this fact or it wouldn't bother making gpus. AMD keeps PC gaming on life support with 2200G/2400G/5600G in the global context. A few nations have a very small percentage of customers able/willing to spend dumb money on nvidia 3000/4000 series but they are irrelevant. Let's hope Intel can prevent PC gaming deteriorating further, in current year it is already the poor cousin of Playstation, XBox and mobile phones.
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PC gaming is dead without good budget gpu choices - Intel knows this fact or it wouldn't bother making gpus. AMD keeps PC gaming on life support with 2200G/2400G/5600G in the global context. A few nations have a very small percentage of customers able/willing to spend dumb money on nvidia 3000/4000 series but they are irrelevant. Let's hope Intel can prevent PC gaming deteriorating further, in current year it is already the poor cousin of Playstation, XBox and mobile phones.
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Saffryn
Intel's architecture is inefficient? Color me surprised.. Oh wait no.. I'm not, their CPUs can easily sit in for space heaters :D
With that said, I am very interesting in future generations of Arc, I am looking at a GPU upgrade once my 3070 can no longer keep up with 1440p gaming, and I have already decided to put team green on my turd list, and right now the only other game in town is AMD, but I am hopeful Intel can really bring their stuff once I need to upgrade.
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Intel's architecture is inefficient? Color me surprised.. Oh wait no.. I'm not, their CPUs can easily sit in for space heaters :D
With that said, I am very interesting in future generations of Arc, I am looking at a GPU upgrade once my 3070 can no longer keep up with 1440p gaming, and I have already decided to put team green on my turd list, and right now the only other game in town is AMD, but I am hopeful Intel can really bring their stuff once I need to upgrade.
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Francis
Bought a cheap 6600 because it was both discounted and then got Starfield thrown in for free. Good deal. Had been considering putting an Intel GPU in my AMD PC. Have an Intel Iris Xe laptop and found it working pretty well overal. True disasters (like Starfield not working) I didn't encounter. Found the overal power consumption of Intel GPU's (just like nVidia'S) to be excessive. Glad at least 1 out of 3 is attempting to do something for the lower end.
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Bought a cheap 6600 because it was both discounted and then got Starfield thrown in for free. Good deal. Had been considering putting an Intel GPU in my AMD PC. Have an Intel Iris Xe laptop and found it working pretty well overal. True disasters (like Starfield not working) I didn't encounter. Found the overal power consumption of Intel GPU's (just like nVidia'S) to be excessive. Glad at least 1 out of 3 is attempting to do something for the lower end.
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Kerosyn
this was always by far the most interesting arc card to me since the initial announcement, so it's nice to see that it finally exists and pretty much lines up with what I expected, even if the power efficiency is hilariously bad. when these drop to 150 or lower (which they really should be considering the fact that the a750 can be priced nearly the same), then a used 5700XT might finally get dethroned on the value front. I want one
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this was always by far the most interesting arc card to me since the initial announcement, so it's nice to see that it finally exists and pretty much lines up with what I expected, even if the power efficiency is hilariously bad. when these drop to 150 or lower (which they really should be considering the fact that the a750 can be priced nearly the same), then a used 5700XT might finally get dethroned on the value front. I want one
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Hugo
Intel has a far better understanding of the market it's in... so much so that they make NVIDIA look like amateurs. I was extremely skeptical about Arc and it's clearly not where it needs to be today. But NVIDIA seems way too complaisant and will most likely get caught off-guard are one point or another. Does not really matter because they can afford it and it's probably more profitable to be anti-consumers anyways. At least for now.
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Intel has a far better understanding of the market it's in... so much so that they make NVIDIA look like amateurs. I was extremely skeptical about Arc and it's clearly not where it needs to be today. But NVIDIA seems way too complaisant and will most likely get caught off-guard are one point or another. Does not really matter because they can afford it and it's probably more profitable to be anti-consumers anyways. At least for now.
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ChiruYES
I feel like with its price being one of its selling points, I think it would be nice to see the results shuffled real quick after the full break down of each chart so that they're ordered by price of the gpu. I understand for the most part it is more money more performance but it'd also show what other gpus are good or bad deals. Or maybe this isn't interesting enough. Just a random thought sorry.
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I feel like with its price being one of its selling points, I think it would be nice to see the results shuffled real quick after the full break down of each chart so that they're ordered by price of the gpu. I understand for the most part it is more money more performance but it'd also show what other gpus are good or bad deals. Or maybe this isn't interesting enough. Just a random thought sorry.
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aceofspades
Bought my girlfriend an A750 for gaming (and for me to use for AV1 encoding), its been great in 95% of the games we've played, only a couple issues. For 190 I'd absolutely recommend it compared to buying more expensive 7600 and 4060 cards, which it trades blows with from my research. Also id rather support Intel, as AMD and Nvidia proved they will milk consumers with their duopoly.
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Bought my girlfriend an A750 for gaming (and for me to use for AV1 encoding), its been great in 95% of the games we've played, only a couple issues. For 190 I'd absolutely recommend it compared to buying more expensive 7600 and 4060 cards, which it trades blows with from my research. Also id rather support Intel, as AMD and Nvidia proved they will milk consumers with their duopoly.
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David
I love the content and don t want to be negative, can I just ask that if you see this please consider only showing cards in the same price category or slightly higher. Having the 4090 on the same graph as the 580 is too much. I m watching this because I would be shopping in a budget and that and other comparisons are unnecessary. Just my take, take it or leave it. Thanks for the content
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I love the content and don t want to be negative, can I just ask that if you see this please consider only showing cards in the same price category or slightly higher. Having the 4090 on the same graph as the 580 is too much. I m watching this because I would be shopping in a budget and that and other comparisons are unnecessary. Just my take, take it or leave it. Thanks for the content
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gamersnexus
ARC hasnt wronged me yet with the year i have spent with the A770 its not been perfect, but perfectly acceptable? yeah i could say that compared to my 3060Ti i used to have, ofc im one of those who does self troubleshooting, the absolute minimal that i have done, Committed to the next gen of cards from intel because red and green are boring to play with tbh.
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ARC hasnt wronged me yet with the year i have spent with the A770 its not been perfect, but perfectly acceptable? yeah i could say that compared to my 3060Ti i used to have, ofc im one of those who does self troubleshooting, the absolute minimal that i have done, Committed to the next gen of cards from intel because red and green are boring to play with tbh.
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Paper
With an idle power draw of 40W, this costs abut 60/year to run at idle with typical US electricity prices, and closer to 100/year in California. Unless you live somewhere with especially cheap electricity or you shut down your computer whenever you're not using it, an RX 6600 would pay for itself in a couple months just from having a lower idle power draw.
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With an idle power draw of 40W, this costs abut 60/year to run at idle with typical US electricity prices, and closer to 100/year in California. Unless you live somewhere with especially cheap electricity or you shut down your computer whenever you're not using it, an RX 6600 would pay for itself in a couple months just from having a lower idle power draw.
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Sucrerie
Isn't SWFT the XFX GPU marketing saying for 2 fan and QICK for 3 fan ?
Edit, it's listed on their website when we look at a GPU, scrol down and they explain MERC / QICK and SWFT , I wasn't that far of either, SWFT does give 2 and QICK 3, MERC gives 3 fan too but those actually are are denomination for listing their Low/Mid/Top line of their GPUs
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Isn't SWFT the XFX GPU marketing saying for 2 fan and QICK for 3 fan ?
Edit, it's listed on their website when we look at a GPU, scrol down and they explain MERC / QICK and SWFT , I wasn't that far of either, SWFT does give 2 and QICK 3, MERC gives 3 fan too but those actually are are denomination for listing their Low/Mid/Top line of their GPUs
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Cogglesz
I know this might sound silly but i'm curious if i could use this in tandem with my nvidia card. I'd like to use all my V-ram & performance for a single main screen but have a little offshoot card i can use to handle media and browsers on my other screens. It would be great for my needs. I've got an old 1060 laying around but i've never tried it.
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I know this might sound silly but i'm curious if i could use this in tandem with my nvidia card. I'd like to use all my V-ram & performance for a single main screen but have a little offshoot card i can use to handle media and browsers on my other screens. It would be great for my needs. I've got an old 1060 laying around but i've never tried it.
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DustyCruz
Im using the A770 16gb LE. And man I gotta say this card rips everything at 1080p. However, like what has been said in numerous videos(including this one), do not get these cards if your motherboard doesnt support reBAR or if youre playing older games. DX8 in particular is hit or miss annd some OpenGL games have weird graphical bugs.
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Im using the A770 16gb LE. And man I gotta say this card rips everything at 1080p. However, like what has been said in numerous videos(including this one), do not get these cards if your motherboard doesnt support reBAR or if youre playing older games. DX8 in particular is hit or miss annd some OpenGL games have weird graphical bugs.
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Dinscurge
did they even actually figure out a workaround for not having any support for legacy stuff like dx9, and having to that bit where they steal opensource software to fix their terrible product by making the games run in vulkan which it can do much better than their previous workaround to do dx9 instructions or whatever?
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did they even actually figure out a workaround for not having any support for legacy stuff like dx9, and having to that bit where they steal opensource software to fix their terrible product by making the games run in vulkan which it can do much better than their previous workaround to do dx9 instructions or whatever?
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Leland
It's been interesting to see Intel's progress in the dGPU space, I'm optimistic for Battlemage. I hope they can crush it in the low end space, I'd love to see what they can do with 75W of headroom(especially if they can do something to outshine low profile single slot options like the RX 6400/GTX 1650).
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It's been interesting to see Intel's progress in the dGPU space, I'm optimistic for Battlemage. I hope they can crush it in the low end space, I'd love to see what they can do with 75W of headroom(especially if they can do something to outshine low profile single slot options like the RX 6400/GTX 1650).
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itech
Paul's Hardware's review pointed out a huge drop in performance from simply opening up the in game menu in Starfield. Most of the time in which it did not recover unless you reloaded the game. Did you encounter this as well? Others have mentioned it with different hardware configurations as well though.
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Paul's Hardware's review pointed out a huge drop in performance from simply opening up the in game menu in Starfield. Most of the time in which it did not recover unless you reloaded the game. Did you encounter this as well? Others have mentioned it with different hardware configurations as well though.
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