Intel is Desperate: i7-14700K CPU Review, Benchmarks, Gaming, & Power
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Date: 2023-10-17
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Zen
People on Reddit downvoted me into oblivion when I predicted that 14th gen wouldn t be anything remotely remarkable lol, it s a refresh after all so IPC gains are negligible. Welcome to 10nm++ folks. It would ve been more meaningful if all of the SKUs got a bump in E-cores, so at the very least Intel could market them as better suited for heavily threaded workloads vs new bigger number = better for gaming hurr durr . Particularly with the i3s; Intel has been insanely adamant about not having any E-cores on any of the LGA1700 based i3s whereas on mobile they ve had them since Alder Lake. I mean seriously, a 4P + 4E i3 would be a huge selling point for Intel; they could advertise that their entry level starts at 8c/12t (vs 6c/12t from AMD, since the era of R3s doesn t seem to be coming back anytime soon or ever). And while it may still not fully compete with a modern R5, it would be better for consumers in general. And then they could finally make Celerons 4c/4t & Pentiums 4c/8t, since dual-cores of any kind just feel out of place in the modern day. Just my two cents, although my name isn t Jay so who really cares what I have to say haha
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People on Reddit downvoted me into oblivion when I predicted that 14th gen wouldn t be anything remotely remarkable lol, it s a refresh after all so IPC gains are negligible. Welcome to 10nm++ folks. It would ve been more meaningful if all of the SKUs got a bump in E-cores, so at the very least Intel could market them as better suited for heavily threaded workloads vs new bigger number = better for gaming hurr durr . Particularly with the i3s; Intel has been insanely adamant about not having any E-cores on any of the LGA1700 based i3s whereas on mobile they ve had them since Alder Lake. I mean seriously, a 4P + 4E i3 would be a huge selling point for Intel; they could advertise that their entry level starts at 8c/12t (vs 6c/12t from AMD, since the era of R3s doesn t seem to be coming back anytime soon or ever). And while it may still not fully compete with a modern R5, it would be better for consumers in general. And then they could finally make Celerons 4c/4t & Pentiums 4c/8t, since dual-cores of any kind just feel out of place in the modern day. Just my two cents, although my name isn t Jay so who really cares what I have to say haha
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Gerald
e-cores are useless for gaming, they are not really multi-threaded and never will be. If a game requires a lot of cores it usually means it's badly optimized and will just run badly on everything, when they optimize it, the core requirement drops back down. It doesn't matter what the multi-core crew screaming on the internet says, the market dictates what it will buy, and it wants gaming CPUs for custom builds, not content creator hybrid hot and overpriced CPUs.
5800x3D is still all you need going forward. Heck if you're doing a new build and have a Microcenter near you, the 5600x3D bundle is an even better deal. If you want to spend more the 7800x3D is the way to go. Modern games are not doing well on PC right now in general though, a console makes way more sense if you have to do an entirely new build, especially because of the joke that is GPUs.
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e-cores are useless for gaming, they are not really multi-threaded and never will be. If a game requires a lot of cores it usually means it's badly optimized and will just run badly on everything, when they optimize it, the core requirement drops back down. It doesn't matter what the multi-core crew screaming on the internet says, the market dictates what it will buy, and it wants gaming CPUs for custom builds, not content creator hybrid hot and overpriced CPUs.
5800x3D is still all you need going forward. Heck if you're doing a new build and have a Microcenter near you, the 5600x3D bundle is an even better deal. If you want to spend more the 7800x3D is the way to go. Modern games are not doing well on PC right now in general though, a console makes way more sense if you have to do an entirely new build, especially because of the joke that is GPUs.
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Darko
Do not attempt to use your own brain at home , it may cause some damage
- 'No Intel' intel ( ...and all other corporations and governments)
Our main focus of bigger better numbers was of course on our power consumption
New 'generation' with new bigger and better numbers on your electrical bill.All better nummbers for your electricity providers
-'No Intelig....' intel
Thank you Steve
-Intel
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Do not attempt to use your own brain at home , it may cause some damage
- 'No Intel' intel ( ...and all other corporations and governments)
Our main focus of bigger better numbers was of course on our power consumption
New 'generation' with new bigger and better numbers on your electrical bill.All better nummbers for your electricity providers
-'No Intelig....' intel
Thank you Steve
-Intel
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Salt
The 5800X3D may very well be the most impressive CPU of all time, not just for its raw gaming performance, but for the fact that it can be dropped down into 5+ year old budget motherboards, doesn't require a massive cooler, runs great on cheap or slow DDR4 ram and doesn't require expensive DDR5 memory, and doesn't require much of a power supply because of how little power it sips.
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The 5800X3D may very well be the most impressive CPU of all time, not just for its raw gaming performance, but for the fact that it can be dropped down into 5+ year old budget motherboards, doesn't require a massive cooler, runs great on cheap or slow DDR4 ram and doesn't require expensive DDR5 memory, and doesn't require much of a power supply because of how little power it sips.
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Garrett
Feeling good about 13000 series CPU and 4000 series GPUs as a place to upgrade from my previous 8700k/1080ti. Looks like this chipset is out of gas, and I wouldn't trust the first generation of the next chipset.
That said, I appreciate the Stellaris benchmark. That's an interesting way to look at CPU heavy performance
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Feeling good about 13000 series CPU and 4000 series GPUs as a place to upgrade from my previous 8700k/1080ti. Looks like this chipset is out of gas, and I wouldn't trust the first generation of the next chipset.
That said, I appreciate the Stellaris benchmark. That's an interesting way to look at CPU heavy performance
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Andreas
and considering running on a linux platform such as truenas the ecores have to be turned off, the change means nothing. intel isnt providing enough support to the linux kernel devs to make intel a FULLY usable option of the most widely used platform for almost everything.
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and considering running on a linux platform such as truenas the ecores have to be turned off, the change means nothing. intel isnt providing enough support to the linux kernel devs to make intel a FULLY usable option of the most widely used platform for almost everything.
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Datagram
As these processors get more power-hungry, it would be cool if you guys added a power scaling test to your test suite. Would be really helpful for people building systems that are going to be thermally constrained who want to know how much performance they're giving up.
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As these processors get more power-hungry, it would be cool if you guys added a power scaling test to your test suite. Would be really helpful for people building systems that are going to be thermally constrained who want to know how much performance they're giving up.
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UnitD77
Unfortunately I am still getting a 14700k today after work. I wasnt expecting huge gains, but extra E cores for multitasking should (in theory) provide more performance. Given how close we were to the 14th gen release at this point I waited so im gonna get it
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Unfortunately I am still getting a 14700k today after work. I wasnt expecting huge gains, but extra E cores for multitasking should (in theory) provide more performance. Given how close we were to the 14th gen release at this point I waited so im gonna get it
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LudwigRevolution
I was debating whether to upgrade to 14700k over my 12600k since I'm seeing CPU bottlenecks a lot recently ... in 4k, but it looks like some games like BG3 and Starfield just run poorly, and the 14700k not a very meaningful upgrade. Thanks Steve!
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I was debating whether to upgrade to 14700k over my 12600k since I'm seeing CPU bottlenecks a lot recently ... in 4k, but it looks like some games like BG3 and Starfield just run poorly, and the 14700k not a very meaningful upgrade. Thanks Steve!
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sgandy2989
That intro, that was pure 1000x bigger and bettererer than the 13700k video. In all seriousness though, great information as always! You and GN team are my go to for any new processor or graphics card, thanks for all the hard work and information!
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That intro, that was pure 1000x bigger and bettererer than the 13700k video. In all seriousness though, great information as always! You and GN team are my go to for any new processor or graphics card, thanks for all the hard work and information!
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itech
the new CPU isnt much better than the old one? oh wow. the three people on planet earth who are mentally ill enough to upgrade their CPU every single time a new one comes out are going to be really pissed off. intel really screwed up bad here
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the new CPU isnt much better than the old one? oh wow. the three people on planet earth who are mentally ill enough to upgrade their CPU every single time a new one comes out are going to be really pissed off. intel really screwed up bad here
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KaiserXyozni
What's up with Intel and Nvidia's generational improvements ? The difference between the 3060 Ti and the 4060 Ti is only about 4%ish, and intel's 13700k and 14700k is about 2%? Why is only AMD seeing notable generational improvements?
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What's up with Intel and Nvidia's generational improvements ? The difference between the 3060 Ti and the 4060 Ti is only about 4%ish, and intel's 13700k and 14700k is about 2%? Why is only AMD seeing notable generational improvements?
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Orenm145
That s it i m officialy team red now at least cpu wise. I ll tolerate the Mem compatibilty issues for the longevity of the platform. My next upgrade will be the upcoming amd cpu & i don t even care what will be the comeback from intel
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That s it i m officialy team red now at least cpu wise. I ll tolerate the Mem compatibilty issues for the longevity of the platform. My next upgrade will be the upcoming amd cpu & i don t even care what will be the comeback from intel
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VeggyZ
I don't think I'll be upgrading to this new generation quite yet, haha. Going from an i7 5930K to an i9 13900K is an ACTUAL generational upgrade, almost an exponential one.... well, however many generations it's been - a lot of 'um.
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I don't think I'll be upgrading to this new generation quite yet, haha. Going from an i7 5930K to an i9 13900K is an ACTUAL generational upgrade, almost an exponential one.... well, however many generations it's been - a lot of 'um.
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Maisonier
When are we going to have processors with 32GB of integrated HBM3 memory on the same chip? Until that happens, the advancements will be minimal, and they'll try to sell us those lousy low and high-performance processors ...
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When are we going to have processors with 32GB of integrated HBM3 memory on the same chip? Until that happens, the advancements will be minimal, and they'll try to sell us those lousy low and high-performance processors ...
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Daniel
On the bright side intel didn't force everyone on a new motherboard socket for it. Still somewhat a win for people who have something like a 12400... in the future they will have lots of options to max out their boards.
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On the bright side intel didn't force everyone on a new motherboard socket for it. Still somewhat a win for people who have something like a 12400... in the future they will have lots of options to max out their boards.
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Scott
Would like to see even more games. Such as the ones Intel put on their own benchmarks for the 14900k vs 7950x3d to see if their yields on their CPUs across the board are akin to what they were trying to market.
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Would like to see even more games. Such as the ones Intel put on their own benchmarks for the 14900k vs 7950x3d to see if their yields on their CPUs across the board are akin to what they were trying to market.
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Terreos87
The power consumption charts alone make me want to swap over to AMD next time I need to upgrade. 12700K is still more than what I need, but Intel is definitely not winning me over with this launch.
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The power consumption charts alone make me want to swap over to AMD next time I need to upgrade. 12700K is still more than what I need, but Intel is definitely not winning me over with this launch.
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Notthedroids
And now they can say that they support another generation on the current socket.
Actually, given that this is Intel, one could have expected that the refresh is released on a new socket
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And now they can say that they support another generation on the current socket.
Actually, given that this is Intel, one could have expected that the refresh is released on a new socket
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eaman
So it has more cores, a bump in frequency and cache: it's new silicon, it's a refresh. What's wrong in calling it a refresh?
AMD is selling tech of 3 gens ago changing the name each year...
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So it has more cores, a bump in frequency and cache: it's new silicon, it's a refresh. What's wrong in calling it a refresh?
AMD is selling tech of 3 gens ago changing the name each year...
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