New vs. Original AMD Ryzen 5 3600: Silicon Quality Comparison (2020 vs. 2019)
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Date: 2020-07-01
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Gannon
You re getting 117 fps at RDR2 1080p high settings with a 2080ti? Why do I get 97-111 fps with my Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070SUPER!! at 1440p with a mixture of ultra (ultra textures, 16x ani filtering, ultra global illumination, ultra animal fur), high (lighting, tessellation and anti aliasing), and medium everything else. WITH A 2070SUPER!!! How is that possible? My settings have to be pretty much as demanding considering a few are on ultra and quite a few on high as well, and I m running 1.7x the resolution with the same cpu and a fairly decently weaker graphics card? And I m only getting 12 fps (or less) lower on average?
I literally stay between 97-111 fps at all times, so that s about 105 on average. It s actually usually over 100 at all times, just drops into the 90s in demanding areas. Every soo often it may go down to 88 for a few seconds but that s the lowest I ve ever seen it go. It really does hover right at about 100-111 90% of the time.
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You re getting 117 fps at RDR2 1080p high settings with a 2080ti? Why do I get 97-111 fps with my Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070SUPER!! at 1440p with a mixture of ultra (ultra textures, 16x ani filtering, ultra global illumination, ultra animal fur), high (lighting, tessellation and anti aliasing), and medium everything else. WITH A 2070SUPER!!! How is that possible? My settings have to be pretty much as demanding considering a few are on ultra and quite a few on high as well, and I m running 1.7x the resolution with the same cpu and a fairly decently weaker graphics card? And I m only getting 12 fps (or less) lower on average?
I literally stay between 97-111 fps at all times, so that s about 105 on average. It s actually usually over 100 at all times, just drops into the 90s in demanding areas. Every soo often it may go down to 88 for a few seconds but that s the lowest I ve ever seen it go. It really does hover right at about 100-111 90% of the time.
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REVOLUTIONS51
Mine, made in 11th week of 2020: 1.17 volt (verified on the vrm via external multimeter rated to +-2mV) reaches 4.35 GHz stable on IBT, prime95 with extended vector, scales linearly in Cinebench etc (67 w power consumption reported). At 1.37v it's stable in the same manner at 4.45 GHz, but my cooler starts to be on the limit and I'm shure 80 degrees on the long run are not that nice... On the other hand a 3600 2x8 g Corsair memory kit (certified even on the compatibility list of the motherboard) can't pass ramtest at 3200 on the auto profile and I couldn't get it to stabilise, nothing seems to work dram voltages, soc voltages, primary and secondary timing can't fix it. I'm stuck at 3000 MTs with infinity fabric at a depressing 1500mhz...
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Mine, made in 11th week of 2020: 1.17 volt (verified on the vrm via external multimeter rated to +-2mV) reaches 4.35 GHz stable on IBT, prime95 with extended vector, scales linearly in Cinebench etc (67 w power consumption reported). At 1.37v it's stable in the same manner at 4.45 GHz, but my cooler starts to be on the limit and I'm shure 80 degrees on the long run are not that nice... On the other hand a 3600 2x8 g Corsair memory kit (certified even on the compatibility list of the motherboard) can't pass ramtest at 3200 on the auto profile and I couldn't get it to stabilise, nothing seems to work dram voltages, soc voltages, primary and secondary timing can't fix it. I'm stuck at 3000 MTs with infinity fabric at a depressing 1500mhz...
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Gannon
You re getting 117 fps at RDR2 1080p high settings with a 2080ti? Why do I get 105 fps with my Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070SUPER!! at 1440p with a mixture of ultra (ultra textures, 16x ani filtering, ultra global illumination, ultra animal fur), high (lighting, tessellation and anti aliasing), and medium everything else. WITH A 2070SUPER!!! How is that possible? My settings have to be pretty much as demanding considering a few are on ultra and quite a few on high as well, and I m running 1.7x the resolution with the same cpu and a fairly decently weaker graphics card? And I m only getting 12 fps less on average?
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You re getting 117 fps at RDR2 1080p high settings with a 2080ti? Why do I get 105 fps with my Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070SUPER!! at 1440p with a mixture of ultra (ultra textures, 16x ani filtering, ultra global illumination, ultra animal fur), high (lighting, tessellation and anti aliasing), and medium everything else. WITH A 2070SUPER!!! How is that possible? My settings have to be pretty much as demanding considering a few are on ultra and quite a few on high as well, and I m running 1.7x the resolution with the same cpu and a fairly decently weaker graphics card? And I m only getting 12 fps less on average?
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Was
2:24 170 in the USA is a really good deal ? Lul, what? I mean sure, 85 for the 1600 AF is amazing value, but double that for the 3600 is normal even worldwide.
It actually is expensive considering 10% is a high VAT over in 'Murica with the average below 6% probably and that may not even be included already. Just bought an R5 3600 for 155 < 174 (right now) and that includes the high German VAT then 19% (and now 16% for the rest of the year due to the human malware effects on customer spending) and a code for Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition. I would've been
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2:24 170 in the USA is a really good deal ? Lul, what? I mean sure, 85 for the 1600 AF is amazing value, but double that for the 3600 is normal even worldwide.
It actually is expensive considering 10% is a high VAT over in 'Murica with the average below 6% probably and that may not even be included already. Just bought an R5 3600 for 155 < 174 (right now) and that includes the high German VAT then 19% (and now 16% for the rest of the year due to the human malware effects on customer spending) and a code for Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition. I would've been
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ReDnAx1991
I bought my R7 3700X two months ago, got a stable overclock at 4.4 GHz with 1.387V VCORE. I have seen many videos where people couldn't push it past 4.3 GHz, even after many attemps. I set it to 4.4 GHz with 1.4V VCORE, ran all tests and everthing was stable. After that I set the VCORE to 1.387V, ran all tests again for a couple of hours and everything remained stable.
Using a BeQuiet! Dark Rock 4 Pro cooler during all testing and daily use. So either I am really lucky, or AMD improved their manufacturing process.
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I bought my R7 3700X two months ago, got a stable overclock at 4.4 GHz with 1.387V VCORE. I have seen many videos where people couldn't push it past 4.3 GHz, even after many attemps. I set it to 4.4 GHz with 1.4V VCORE, ran all tests and everthing was stable. After that I set the VCORE to 1.387V, ran all tests again for a couple of hours and everything remained stable.
Using a BeQuiet! Dark Rock 4 Pro cooler during all testing and daily use. So either I am really lucky, or AMD improved their manufacturing process.
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SomeTechBloke
This is nuts, like my whole idea with AMD products is to get them a year after release because AMD CPU's tend to go on sale at certain times of the year on average, so not only do you get a CPU upgrade, you save cash as well, Gonna be using this tactic a lot from now, we have enough CPU grunt for gaming as it is, so its not an urgency matter, holding yourself back for a year just means that you will get the right upgrade if the next CPU release gives you an unsuspecting 30% performance bump instead of the
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This is nuts, like my whole idea with AMD products is to get them a year after release because AMD CPU's tend to go on sale at certain times of the year on average, so not only do you get a CPU upgrade, you save cash as well, Gonna be using this tactic a lot from now, we have enough CPU grunt for gaming as it is, so its not an urgency matter, holding yourself back for a year just means that you will get the right upgrade if the next CPU release gives you an unsuspecting 30% performance bump instead of the
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Jacobgame2
I decided to buy an R5 3600 and a RTX 2060 on July 7th 2019 thinking they would be new for a few years and then still be pretty good a few years after that.
Turns out within a year of their purchase they have straight up been replaced by Super and XT versions. Seems like this generation of PC parts somehow have the ability to just get better for no reason or higher price. It's as if they know they can produce better for the price but they want to sell the same product twice.
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I decided to buy an R5 3600 and a RTX 2060 on July 7th 2019 thinking they would be new for a few years and then still be pretty good a few years after that.
Turns out within a year of their purchase they have straight up been replaced by Super and XT versions. Seems like this generation of PC parts somehow have the ability to just get better for no reason or higher price. It's as if they know they can produce better for the price but they want to sell the same product twice.
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Mr.
people who keeps bringing up the issue with a single sample sizes sounds like those who have just finished their first class of statistics.
it is simply no feasible to do large testings. the manpower, time and financial resources required are ludicrous, and are better spent for other endeavours.
just take this testing for what it is. it's insightful, and nowhere was an outrageous conclusion ever made. the community has benefitted this existing, and that's all that matters
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people who keeps bringing up the issue with a single sample sizes sounds like those who have just finished their first class of statistics.
it is simply no feasible to do large testings. the manpower, time and financial resources required are ludicrous, and are better spent for other endeavours.
just take this testing for what it is. it's insightful, and nowhere was an outrageous conclusion ever made. the community has benefitted this existing, and that's all that matters
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Gary
I'm glad you did this comparison. I have a new r5 3600 and I briefly tried to overclock it and it was stable at 4.4 ghz all core at stock cpu voltage. I thought I had a fairly golden chip but it just seems that all the newer 3600's can do slightly better overclocks. I put it back to stock until I get more info on degredation, and besides, the 3600 doesn't even need to be overclocked anyway. I've overclocked every cpu I've ever had and this one doesn't even need it.
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I'm glad you did this comparison. I have a new r5 3600 and I briefly tried to overclock it and it was stable at 4.4 ghz all core at stock cpu voltage. I thought I had a fairly golden chip but it just seems that all the newer 3600's can do slightly better overclocks. I put it back to stock until I get more info on degredation, and besides, the 3600 doesn't even need to be overclocked anyway. I've overclocked every cpu I've ever had and this one doesn't even need it.
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bodasactra
A slight performance bump and a way low price are what motivates people to buy older gen parts. Now, the best of the old gen gets a T and a price refresh. Prices on the whole line back to 2018 Zen + are way up. A 2600X cost the same, if not more, than a 3600. How is this the case at major outlets? We have lost what has traditionally been an important value space for lower budgets worldwide, late/last gen AMD price cuts. Why is it going unreported?
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A slight performance bump and a way low price are what motivates people to buy older gen parts. Now, the best of the old gen gets a T and a price refresh. Prices on the whole line back to 2018 Zen + are way up. A 2600X cost the same, if not more, than a 3600. How is this the case at major outlets? We have lost what has traditionally been an important value space for lower budgets worldwide, late/last gen AMD price cuts. Why is it going unreported?
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