Intel Core Ultra 7 265K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 285K, 245K, 7800X3D, 7900X, & More
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Date: 2024-10-27
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opachki8325
I'd like to add this thought:
Funnily enough these new Intel chips still have a reason to sell and exist because AMD apparently can't be bothered to finally improve upon the CPU-PCH-Interface. While Intel has been using a Gen 4.0x8 DMI interface with a speed of 16GT/s in 2021, AMD has been stuck with a PCIe 4.0x4 interface since 2019.
Why am I mentioning this Well, take a look at the highend X870E boards. They just don't support a good amount of m.2 SSDs. While it's absolutely true that the average user won't need more than one or two slots, enthusiasts like me do have more than this. Personally, I currently have 4 m.2 SSDs due to the fact that I used to have poor internet speeds and somewhat enjoyed rotating games. I can't throw in more than 3 m.2 SSDs without having to sacrifice Gen 5 lanes from Slot 1.
The problem there is: A 4090 will be bottlenecked by a 4.0 x8 Slot and lose up to 10% performance. Thanks AMD for again hindering progress.
That much said, I'll have to take that hit in bandwidth but I'll defo go with the 9800X3D. I'm sick of Intel's incompetence.
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I'd like to add this thought:
Funnily enough these new Intel chips still have a reason to sell and exist because AMD apparently can't be bothered to finally improve upon the CPU-PCH-Interface. While Intel has been using a Gen 4.0x8 DMI interface with a speed of 16GT/s in 2021, AMD has been stuck with a PCIe 4.0x4 interface since 2019.
Why am I mentioning this Well, take a look at the highend X870E boards. They just don't support a good amount of m.2 SSDs. While it's absolutely true that the average user won't need more than one or two slots, enthusiasts like me do have more than this. Personally, I currently have 4 m.2 SSDs due to the fact that I used to have poor internet speeds and somewhat enjoyed rotating games. I can't throw in more than 3 m.2 SSDs without having to sacrifice Gen 5 lanes from Slot 1.
The problem there is: A 4090 will be bottlenecked by a 4.0 x8 Slot and lose up to 10% performance. Thanks AMD for again hindering progress.
That much said, I'll have to take that hit in bandwidth but I'll defo go with the 9800X3D. I'm sick of Intel's incompetence.
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Jimmy-Knowledge
It's time for a change... it's time for a new path.
My very first CPU was a Pentium II 350 MHz in 1998. Then my friend gave me another motherboard and an AMD K6-III 450 CPU. He said, It has 3DNow and 100 MHz more, but I didn’t know what he meant. Anyway, the CPU caused so many problems that I switched back to Intel, getting a brand-new Pentium III 1000 MHz in the early 2000s. Since then, I've only used Intel CPUs and NVIDIA cards.
Before the GeForce 256 came out, I was a 3DFX fanboy; I liked the TNT2 as well. Anyway.
Almost a quarter of a century later, both companies have started to disappoint me... Now I've decided to change my path and say goodbye to NVIDIA and Intel.
Price policies
Market leader prices
Very low performance differences between generations
False specs at releases (GTX 970 3.5 GB) cough
Re-re-re-re-freshes
Countless other issues
I'm sick and tired.
The time has come to give AMD another chance in 2025.
cheers
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It's time for a change... it's time for a new path.
My very first CPU was a Pentium II 350 MHz in 1998. Then my friend gave me another motherboard and an AMD K6-III 450 CPU. He said, It has 3DNow and 100 MHz more, but I didn’t know what he meant. Anyway, the CPU caused so many problems that I switched back to Intel, getting a brand-new Pentium III 1000 MHz in the early 2000s. Since then, I've only used Intel CPUs and NVIDIA cards.
Before the GeForce 256 came out, I was a 3DFX fanboy; I liked the TNT2 as well. Anyway.
Almost a quarter of a century later, both companies have started to disappoint me... Now I've decided to change my path and say goodbye to NVIDIA and Intel.
Price policies
Market leader prices
Very low performance differences between generations
False specs at releases (GTX 970 3.5 GB) cough
Re-re-re-re-freshes
Countless other issues
I'm sick and tired.
The time has come to give AMD another chance in 2025.
cheers
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gamersnexus
While overall the new Intel 200 series CPUs are a bit meh however, as an ITX and ITX SFF pc builder for well over a decade now, I’m happy with Intels new lower power consumption CPUs are looking ok to me and as we’ve seen AMD’s Ryzen and Ryzen X3D CPUs especially are the only go to cpu for more compact builds. Intel now at least something which is decent enough to consider for a more compact build over their nuclear reactor 13 and 14th generation of the past which needed undervolting, at least 360mm radiator cooler and and lower workloads and underclocking just to game in smaller form factors. (I’m currently using X3D CPUs in all my multiple builds since the Ryzen X3D release.
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While overall the new Intel 200 series CPUs are a bit meh however, as an ITX and ITX SFF pc builder for well over a decade now, I’m happy with Intels new lower power consumption CPUs are looking ok to me and as we’ve seen AMD’s Ryzen and Ryzen X3D CPUs especially are the only go to cpu for more compact builds. Intel now at least something which is decent enough to consider for a more compact build over their nuclear reactor 13 and 14th generation of the past which needed undervolting, at least 360mm radiator cooler and and lower workloads and underclocking just to game in smaller form factors. (I’m currently using X3D CPUs in all my multiple builds since the Ryzen X3D release.
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nicktayloriv310
I guess I'm stuck with the 265k being I need a new video editing/office work PC. I need the video editing codecs (supposedly has two media engines in it) that will work in tandem with my 4080 Super. I don't game at all but I do a lot of DaVinci Resolve work. I almost went with a 13600k (I do not want to run an AIO, air cooler only) a few months ago but being 13/14 gen is on it's way out I couldn't make building a new PC on a dying generation of chip. I'll wait until the Holidays and hopefully the MoBo prices will come down (I prefer AsRock and Aorus boards but will take a MSI if necessary). Man... this is... yeah.
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I guess I'm stuck with the 265k being I need a new video editing/office work PC. I need the video editing codecs (supposedly has two media engines in it) that will work in tandem with my 4080 Super. I don't game at all but I do a lot of DaVinci Resolve work. I almost went with a 13600k (I do not want to run an AIO, air cooler only) a few months ago but being 13/14 gen is on it's way out I couldn't make building a new PC on a dying generation of chip. I'll wait until the Holidays and hopefully the MoBo prices will come down (I prefer AsRock and Aorus boards but will take a MSI if necessary). Man... this is... yeah.
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k80theshade
Heavily depending on your desired level of granularity, here, it might be a good Idea to note that not all PC fans are created equal such that simply labeling fan speed as 100% may not be as useful as just listing the sizes of the fans as well as which brand they are. If you want to get way off in the weeds, you might use a or a - sign to indicate which ones are pulling and which are pushing.....but that might be a tad extreme. (particularly in an open chassis)
In any case (get it)you might find it good to find a slightly more precise way of delineating the actual air volume per second being moved by the fins.
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Heavily depending on your desired level of granularity, here, it might be a good Idea to note that not all PC fans are created equal such that simply labeling fan speed as 100% may not be as useful as just listing the sizes of the fans as well as which brand they are. If you want to get way off in the weeds, you might use a or a - sign to indicate which ones are pulling and which are pushing.....but that might be a tad extreme. (particularly in an open chassis)
In any case (get it)you might find it good to find a slightly more precise way of delineating the actual air volume per second being moved by the fins.
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johnpasir3207
the power efficiency is a shocker to me. these are supposed to be focussed on efficiency and still underperform by a big margin what AMD does. they benchmarked themselves vs the 14th gen which was extremely inefficient. imagine if all CPU's in the world burned half what they do today. we would be able to save some power plants.
Question is whether Mobo, CPU , windows drivers are all optimised to maximise the new ultra core performance
looks to me that intel launched this way too early. Additionally I don't want to pay a 600$ Mobo (like asus strix) for a 400$ CPU, requiring new memory, new cooling, etc.
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the power efficiency is a shocker to me. these are supposed to be focussed on efficiency and still underperform by a big margin what AMD does. they benchmarked themselves vs the 14th gen which was extremely inefficient. imagine if all CPU's in the world burned half what they do today. we would be able to save some power plants.
Question is whether Mobo, CPU , windows drivers are all optimised to maximise the new ultra core performance
looks to me that intel launched this way too early. Additionally I don't want to pay a 600$ Mobo (like asus strix) for a 400$ CPU, requiring new memory, new cooling, etc.
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bradenabbott2707
I am loving my 265K. Coming from a 10600K gaming at 4K this has made CitiesS2 run like butter and has doubled my fps in GTA5. I am cooling with air and have not been able to cause a thermal throttle at all, even with benchmarks. XMP at 7600mhz no problem. I converted a 2hr 4K movie to 1080p in 9 minutes. I need QSV and productivity performance and this delivers. I could get any AMD chip if I wanted but I am so happy with this. I don't care about power consumption as long as I can cool on air, which is something the 14 and 13th gen could not do at the same performance
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I am loving my 265K. Coming from a 10600K gaming at 4K this has made CitiesS2 run like butter and has doubled my fps in GTA5. I am cooling with air and have not been able to cause a thermal throttle at all, even with benchmarks. XMP at 7600mhz no problem. I converted a 2hr 4K movie to 1080p in 9 minutes. I need QSV and productivity performance and this delivers. I could get any AMD chip if I wanted but I am so happy with this. I don't care about power consumption as long as I can cool on air, which is something the 14 and 13th gen could not do at the same performance
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jgig1329
I don’t think buying one of these now makes a lot of sense, but I’m interested to see how they look in 6 months. At this point Intel has a major advantage over AMD in the memory controller and with lots of new memory tech coming out it may disproportionally benefit these new cpus compared to amd. Will be interested to see how that impacts gaming and workstation performance on, say, 9000 MT/s memory. Almost certainly not worth the huge investment strictly from a value perspective but it will definitely be cool to see how far we can push the memory in these things.
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I don’t think buying one of these now makes a lot of sense, but I’m interested to see how they look in 6 months. At this point Intel has a major advantage over AMD in the memory controller and with lots of new memory tech coming out it may disproportionally benefit these new cpus compared to amd. Will be interested to see how that impacts gaming and workstation performance on, say, 9000 MT/s memory. Almost certainly not worth the huge investment strictly from a value perspective but it will definitely be cool to see how far we can push the memory in these things.
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mjc0961
I still don't get why they replaced Core i7 with Core Ultra 7
Even if they wanted to reset the numbers instead of calling this Core i7 15700K, Core i7 270K would have been a lot better than Core Ultra 7 265K. I feel like Intel upended the tea table for no good reason.
And oh no - I just realized that AMD is on 9000 right now. So next time they'll have to go with Ryzen 11000 or they'll upend the tea table too. Like I'm not sure I want to have to say 11800X3D out loud, but it's still probably better than whatever new name they'll come up with.
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I still don't get why they replaced Core i7 with Core Ultra 7
Even if they wanted to reset the numbers instead of calling this Core i7 15700K, Core i7 270K would have been a lot better than Core Ultra 7 265K. I feel like Intel upended the tea table for no good reason.
And oh no - I just realized that AMD is on 9000 right now. So next time they'll have to go with Ryzen 11000 or they'll upend the tea table too. Like I'm not sure I want to have to say 11800X3D out loud, but it's still probably better than whatever new name they'll come up with.
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Micromation
At a certain pricepoint these wouldn't sound that bad - nice to see that finally we're back to reasonable wattage without too big sacrifices in performance... it also depends on mobo manufacturers - if there are motherboards that don't try to lock Thunderbolt behind top tier pricing bracket, there is a market for these CPUs. IMHO Intel should stop clowning around and introduce more PCI lanes, to sort of resurrect HEDT platform. They change sockets often enough that they really don't have excuses of withholding meaningful progress...
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At a certain pricepoint these wouldn't sound that bad - nice to see that finally we're back to reasonable wattage without too big sacrifices in performance... it also depends on mobo manufacturers - if there are motherboards that don't try to lock Thunderbolt behind top tier pricing bracket, there is a market for these CPUs. IMHO Intel should stop clowning around and introduce more PCI lanes, to sort of resurrect HEDT platform. They change sockets often enough that they really don't have excuses of withholding meaningful progress...
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Lone_GamerUK
I love how the retailers are already trying to charge like 30 or so more than rrp. Even with these shocking reviews & state of chips. Anyone buying these at the moment must be dumb.
I cannot believe how much Intel have messed this up especially for a new board/socket chip. Hoping Intel can fix these with micro code, optimisation on windows or drivers for games - otherwise Intel is going down atm so 400 for new board & almost as much again for 8000 memory & then cost of chip to have 12900k or and 5800 beat your system
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I love how the retailers are already trying to charge like 30 or so more than rrp. Even with these shocking reviews & state of chips. Anyone buying these at the moment must be dumb.
I cannot believe how much Intel have messed this up especially for a new board/socket chip. Hoping Intel can fix these with micro code, optimisation on windows or drivers for games - otherwise Intel is going down atm so 400 for new board & almost as much again for 8000 memory & then cost of chip to have 12900k or and 5800 beat your system
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andrewleno591
Alot of work spended on FPS/W metrics which is for dasktop have not so much meaning...
Eectricity in EU not so expensive that I would start ro care about it. I believe in US also not expensive so much that people care about efficiency of CPUs...
Basically when regular people start to care about it they will not have a money for CPUs anyway
So what the point of such testing
What meaningful info this gives
I need just fastest CPU thats all.
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Alot of work spended on FPS/W metrics which is for dasktop have not so much meaning...
Eectricity in EU not so expensive that I would start ro care about it. I believe in US also not expensive so much that people care about efficiency of CPUs...
Basically when regular people start to care about it they will not have a money for CPUs anyway
So what the point of such testing
What meaningful info this gives
I need just fastest CPU thats all.
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exscape
Honestly, while I don't like the naming change, I don't think it's nearly as bad as everyone keeps trying to make it out to be...
Older naming scheme: Intel Core i7 15700K
New naming scheme: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K
It's longer by 3 characters, but enthusiasts never use the full name anyhow, so IN PRACTICE the old name would've been 15700K and the new is 245K.
The main issue is that you need to learn to remap xx900K to x85K, xx700K to x265K and so on.
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Honestly, while I don't like the naming change, I don't think it's nearly as bad as everyone keeps trying to make it out to be...
Older naming scheme: Intel Core i7 15700K
New naming scheme: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K
It's longer by 3 characters, but enthusiasts never use the full name anyhow, so IN PRACTICE the old name would've been 15700K and the new is 245K.
The main issue is that you need to learn to remap xx900K to x85K, xx700K to x265K and so on.
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lonewolf36s
I mean we all saw this coming.
Intel cut corners and pushed out extremely inefficient and poorly made product line, hyped up on marketing PURELY (and wattage. they are basically space heaters).
It's like manufacturing a F1 car in your garage homebrew, blowing the head gasket cause it wasn't all that in the first place, and then that moment back to reality where you have to drive the minivan to work for the next year (or in this case, 3 years).
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I mean we all saw this coming.
Intel cut corners and pushed out extremely inefficient and poorly made product line, hyped up on marketing PURELY (and wattage. they are basically space heaters).
It's like manufacturing a F1 car in your garage homebrew, blowing the head gasket cause it wasn't all that in the first place, and then that moment back to reality where you have to drive the minivan to work for the next year (or in this case, 3 years).
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taesssi
I wish we could get over all the efficiency bs and just focus on how bad it good the processor is. Other wise we are going to keep ending up with processor that just came out by AMD and Intel. Nothing that actually beats their own last year products.
Focus on performance and if power savings come, good, but quit the focus on power savings. It's a CPU. They are supposed to get better with each new one.
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I wish we could get over all the efficiency bs and just focus on how bad it good the processor is. Other wise we are going to keep ending up with processor that just came out by AMD and Intel. Nothing that actually beats their own last year products.
Focus on performance and if power savings come, good, but quit the focus on power savings. It's a CPU. They are supposed to get better with each new one.
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timmyjupiter8641
Let me guess, is this going to be a review or is it going to be a bunch of funny a jokes about Intel's naming scheme's And how many times are we going to hear
AMD, or Ryzen mentioned in this Intel video And of course are we going to hear how Intel's release doesn't meet up with GN's standards and nothing about how it works or doesn't work for today's games. Gotta love it.
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Let me guess, is this going to be a review or is it going to be a bunch of funny a jokes about Intel's naming scheme's And how many times are we going to hear
AMD, or Ryzen mentioned in this Intel video And of course are we going to hear how Intel's release doesn't meet up with GN's standards and nothing about how it works or doesn't work for today's games. Gotta love it.
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bonomel
Intel once again dropping the ball here is bad news for consumers interested in high end cpu's. At least last gen Intel was somewhat competetive, be it at the cost of extreme power draw. But this new range... it's just entirely unimpressive. AMD will be able to sell their CPU's at a much higher price than if Intel would have something good to sell instead of this fart in the wind.
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Intel once again dropping the ball here is bad news for consumers interested in high end cpu's. At least last gen Intel was somewhat competetive, be it at the cost of extreme power draw. But this new range... it's just entirely unimpressive. AMD will be able to sell their CPU's at a much higher price than if Intel would have something good to sell instead of this fart in the wind.
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HDJess
I object against the way of testing all those non-esports games at 1080p. Nobody will play those nice graphics games at 1080p with 4080s and 4090s in their systems. Much more relevant would be 1440p & 2160p testing only.
For esports games, it kinda makes sense to test 1080p, although the majority of players have already moved to 1440p high refresh monitors.
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I object against the way of testing all those non-esports games at 1080p. Nobody will play those nice graphics games at 1080p with 4080s and 4090s in their systems. Much more relevant would be 1440p & 2160p testing only.
For esports games, it kinda makes sense to test 1080p, although the majority of players have already moved to 1440p high refresh monitors.
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philfedora495
This is Intels Bulldozer moment. They're fighting for their life and they come up with something so inferior in power and performance its not even funny. I just hope they've got meaningful improvements in their Tok cadence otherwise they're out of this battle for another few years, and they really cant afford to be.
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This is Intels Bulldozer moment. They're fighting for their life and they come up with something so inferior in power and performance its not even funny. I just hope they've got meaningful improvements in their Tok cadence otherwise they're out of this battle for another few years, and they really cant afford to be.
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masterluckyluke
Well, we get the modern gaming problem now on the hardware side. Early buyers will pay more and get a ton of bugs and problems. But if you can wait a few months, you will get a much better product probably for less money. So let's all wait a bit until the new CPU works like it should and gets some discount.
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Well, we get the modern gaming problem now on the hardware side. Early buyers will pay more and get a ton of bugs and problems. But if you can wait a few months, you will get a much better product probably for less money. So let's all wait a bit until the new CPU works like it should and gets some discount.
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