Investigation: GamersNexus Files New Lawsuit Against PayPal & Honey
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Date: 2025-01-19
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gamersnexus
Ah, the artistry of taking things out of contexttruly the hallmark of someone who fancies themselves an investigative journalist but lacks the critical thinking skills or ethical compass to earn the title. It’s almost comedic how one can twist a narrative so flagrantly, all while pretending they’re uncovering some grand conspiracy. In reality, it’s nothing more than a lazy attempt to stir the pot and inflate one’s own relevance in an industry that’s already crowded with grifters.
To accuse Linus of some grave moral failure because he didn’t immediately leap onto your manufactured outrage train is a level of arrogance that borders on parody. Context mattersa fact you’d know if you spent more time engaging with facts and less time pouting into the camera, desperately hoping someone will validate your unearned sense of superiority.
You’re not an investigative journalist; you’re a face journalist. You rely on performative outrage, mugging for the camera with the smug self-satisfaction of someone who believes their hot takes are gospel. But the truth is, your brand of journalism has all the integrity of a tabloid headline, designed not to inform but to provoke, distort, and mislead.
And let’s talk about investigative rigoror the glaring lack thereof. If the sum total of your effort involves cherry-picking moments to fit your preordained narrative while ignoring inconvenient details, you’re not investigating anything. You’re constructing a house of cards on a foundation of willful ignorance, hoping your audience is too gullible or apathetic to notice.
It’s infuriating to watch someone masquerade as a truth-teller while embodying everything wrong with modern internet commentary: lazy research, bad-faith arguments, and a complete disregard for nuance. If you spent half as much time verifying your claims as you do basking in the glow of your own manufactured outrage, you might actually contribute something of value.
Instead, we’re left with this: a hollow spectacle, delivered by someone who thrives on drama and half-truths, more interested in clicks than clarity. Congratulations, you’ve successfully cemented your legacynot as a journalist, but as the guy who made a career out of being wrong in increasingly louder and sweatier ways.
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Ah, the artistry of taking things out of contexttruly the hallmark of someone who fancies themselves an investigative journalist but lacks the critical thinking skills or ethical compass to earn the title. It’s almost comedic how one can twist a narrative so flagrantly, all while pretending they’re uncovering some grand conspiracy. In reality, it’s nothing more than a lazy attempt to stir the pot and inflate one’s own relevance in an industry that’s already crowded with grifters.
To accuse Linus of some grave moral failure because he didn’t immediately leap onto your manufactured outrage train is a level of arrogance that borders on parody. Context mattersa fact you’d know if you spent more time engaging with facts and less time pouting into the camera, desperately hoping someone will validate your unearned sense of superiority.
You’re not an investigative journalist; you’re a face journalist. You rely on performative outrage, mugging for the camera with the smug self-satisfaction of someone who believes their hot takes are gospel. But the truth is, your brand of journalism has all the integrity of a tabloid headline, designed not to inform but to provoke, distort, and mislead.
And let’s talk about investigative rigoror the glaring lack thereof. If the sum total of your effort involves cherry-picking moments to fit your preordained narrative while ignoring inconvenient details, you’re not investigating anything. You’re constructing a house of cards on a foundation of willful ignorance, hoping your audience is too gullible or apathetic to notice.
It’s infuriating to watch someone masquerade as a truth-teller while embodying everything wrong with modern internet commentary: lazy research, bad-faith arguments, and a complete disregard for nuance. If you spent half as much time verifying your claims as you do basking in the glow of your own manufactured outrage, you might actually contribute something of value.
Instead, we’re left with this: a hollow spectacle, delivered by someone who thrives on drama and half-truths, more interested in clicks than clarity. Congratulations, you’ve successfully cemented your legacynot as a journalist, but as the guy who made a career out of being wrong in increasingly louder and sweatier ways.
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MastrHyperion98
The LTT segment was completely unnecessary in the video. It provides no further context to the claims of Honeys and Paypal ill deeds nor serves to reinforce any of your arguments. It only serves as a mean of elevating Steve's moral superiority while throwing it's competitor under the bus with a clip. Regardless of whether additional context help clarify Linus point this just seems petty. It's 2% of your video and contributes absolutely nothing other than a look LTT bad Gamers Nexus good. Please keep this pettiness out of future investigation pieces unless it actually of any value to a point or argument related to the misdeeds. For me personally, it was off putting and came across as blatant arrogance and an urge to pronounce your moral superiority.
A video titled EXPOSED: How The Honey App Makes Money! Affiliate Influencer Scam Drop 4 years ago. Why didn't Gamers Nexus didn't make a video either then or any of the other members of our community It raises many questions about the motifs behind the LTT mention and I just don't like it. It's polarizing and just fuels drama.
Anyways this is just a tangent and in general I appreciate the great work GN does and they keep the industry at a higher standard which is good for us the consumer. Including this piece, but please just keep the irrelevant pettiness or personal issues outside of this kind of of work. To me it's more of a turnoff.
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The LTT segment was completely unnecessary in the video. It provides no further context to the claims of Honeys and Paypal ill deeds nor serves to reinforce any of your arguments. It only serves as a mean of elevating Steve's moral superiority while throwing it's competitor under the bus with a clip. Regardless of whether additional context help clarify Linus point this just seems petty. It's 2% of your video and contributes absolutely nothing other than a look LTT bad Gamers Nexus good. Please keep this pettiness out of future investigation pieces unless it actually of any value to a point or argument related to the misdeeds. For me personally, it was off putting and came across as blatant arrogance and an urge to pronounce your moral superiority.
A video titled EXPOSED: How The Honey App Makes Money! Affiliate Influencer Scam Drop 4 years ago. Why didn't Gamers Nexus didn't make a video either then or any of the other members of our community It raises many questions about the motifs behind the LTT mention and I just don't like it. It's polarizing and just fuels drama.
Anyways this is just a tangent and in general I appreciate the great work GN does and they keep the industry at a higher standard which is good for us the consumer. Including this piece, but please just keep the irrelevant pettiness or personal issues outside of this kind of of work. To me it's more of a turnoff.
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MountaindewM
I feel the journalistic integrity of Gamers Nexus has fallen drastically. He refuses to get the whole story when he easily could reach out for comment on topics. This shows he gets all the information he wants to get and paints a picture of people in a certain way and he can lean on rings as a journalist that the story came out that way and he made no claims but only showed the proof he had. Which is all true because he got that proof and had no further proof and didn't attempt to reach out to get any other proof.
I also at first felt LTT should have told their fans in video form but I do see their point of view in it all. They can't just go after their sponsors for affiliate revenue in a video even if they don't care about their own revenue as much as they do about others since people will only see them being mad about their revenue. Steve seems so bitter now and has shown his true colors and how he truly is as a journalist.
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I feel the journalistic integrity of Gamers Nexus has fallen drastically. He refuses to get the whole story when he easily could reach out for comment on topics. This shows he gets all the information he wants to get and paints a picture of people in a certain way and he can lean on rings as a journalist that the story came out that way and he made no claims but only showed the proof he had. Which is all true because he got that proof and had no further proof and didn't attempt to reach out to get any other proof.
I also at first felt LTT should have told their fans in video form but I do see their point of view in it all. They can't just go after their sponsors for affiliate revenue in a video even if they don't care about their own revenue as much as they do about others since people will only see them being mad about their revenue. Steve seems so bitter now and has shown his true colors and how he truly is as a journalist.
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etniesdub1
I watched the WAN show were Linus addressed the Honey thing orignally, then watched GN video calling out Linus and comments about him not making a video at the time and i thought is was weird.. nut thought no more of it until i seen a clip of todaus WAN show.. you know what Linus is right on this one. Not everyone aspires to be an 'investigative journalist' he was under no obligation to make a video about it.. why youd drag LTT into this video on honey is just strange and screams 'im looking for views and money.'
You said something recently and i cant remember if it was in this video as ive come back here to comment that you worked an 80 hour work week.. thats just insane and it certainty isn't a positive thing to be boasting about online, lets face it, you do good work but youre not an investigative journalist..
You were right to call LTT out on the misinfromation on their reviews but this one is off the mark for sure.
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I watched the WAN show were Linus addressed the Honey thing orignally, then watched GN video calling out Linus and comments about him not making a video at the time and i thought is was weird.. nut thought no more of it until i seen a clip of todaus WAN show.. you know what Linus is right on this one. Not everyone aspires to be an 'investigative journalist' he was under no obligation to make a video about it.. why youd drag LTT into this video on honey is just strange and screams 'im looking for views and money.'
You said something recently and i cant remember if it was in this video as ive come back here to comment that you worked an 80 hour work week.. thats just insane and it certainty isn't a positive thing to be boasting about online, lets face it, you do good work but youre not an investigative journalist..
You were right to call LTT out on the misinfromation on their reviews but this one is off the mark for sure.
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Pubwie
Regarding the Linus reply and to the fan boy bots, It seemed that Steve was trying to say that Linus Media group has such a big say in the industry that it could have stopped honey when it found out about the clearly unethical cookie practice. Linus and honey has been brands that have been associated with each other for years now. Heck the only reason I know about honey is because of a Linus video.
The issue is that from that Wan show Linus clearly said that he could not risk his reputation for the small creator because he wouldn't be able to control the backlash, which is fair. But that still suck for the little guy. Linus media group could've taken down honey by exposing them years ago, but they chose not to.
Personally, I do not think they should be stoned for it. However, one has to acknowledge that knowing about a crime and choosing not to say anything makes you complicit. That is Steve's point. And he is right.
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Regarding the Linus reply and to the fan boy bots, It seemed that Steve was trying to say that Linus Media group has such a big say in the industry that it could have stopped honey when it found out about the clearly unethical cookie practice. Linus and honey has been brands that have been associated with each other for years now. Heck the only reason I know about honey is because of a Linus video.
The issue is that from that Wan show Linus clearly said that he could not risk his reputation for the small creator because he wouldn't be able to control the backlash, which is fair. But that still suck for the little guy. Linus media group could've taken down honey by exposing them years ago, but they chose not to.
Personally, I do not think they should be stoned for it. However, one has to acknowledge that knowing about a crime and choosing not to say anything makes you complicit. That is Steve's point. And he is right.
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jeffdubbs1488
Repost the full text from LTT because Lying Nexus doesn't want you to know the truth:
Think about it. If I made a video imploring our audience to uninstall an extension that, purportedly remember, we have to look at it in terms of the information we had at the time if I told everybody, Uninstall Honey!’, an extension that supposedly gets them a better deal because I wasn’t making enough money from it Do you really, honestly ask yourself truly think that would have gone well for me he asked.
Why would Lying Nexus hide this Why are they going to shadow ban this comment so you don't see it! Because they have no journalistic standards. Steve's issues with Linus are weird and sad. You don't have to lie and try to smear the guy because you don't like him. That's just pathetic. L for Gamers Nexus.
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Repost the full text from LTT because Lying Nexus doesn't want you to know the truth:
Think about it. If I made a video imploring our audience to uninstall an extension that, purportedly remember, we have to look at it in terms of the information we had at the time if I told everybody, Uninstall Honey!’, an extension that supposedly gets them a better deal because I wasn’t making enough money from it Do you really, honestly ask yourself truly think that would have gone well for me he asked.
Why would Lying Nexus hide this Why are they going to shadow ban this comment so you don't see it! Because they have no journalistic standards. Steve's issues with Linus are weird and sad. You don't have to lie and try to smear the guy because you don't like him. That's just pathetic. L for Gamers Nexus.
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wadefak
The community criticizes GamersNexus for a perceived loss in their content strategy, suggesting a shift towards more negative coverage which might not align with viewers' desire for excitement about tech innovations.
This criticism comes in the context of an ongoing feud between Linus Tech Tips and GamersNexus, highlighted by a recent controversy involving the Honey browser extension scam, where GamersNexus accused Linus Tech Tips of not addressing the issue openly.
The mention of Debbie downers reflects a cultural reference to people who are overly negative, suggesting that the community feels GamersNexus's content has become too critical, potentially affecting the community's enthusiasm for technology.
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The community criticizes GamersNexus for a perceived loss in their content strategy, suggesting a shift towards more negative coverage which might not align with viewers' desire for excitement about tech innovations.
This criticism comes in the context of an ongoing feud between Linus Tech Tips and GamersNexus, highlighted by a recent controversy involving the Honey browser extension scam, where GamersNexus accused Linus Tech Tips of not addressing the issue openly.
The mention of Debbie downers reflects a cultural reference to people who are overly negative, suggesting that the community feels GamersNexus's content has become too critical, potentially affecting the community's enthusiasm for technology.
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TrialMacameau
I think the Lawsuit against PayPal and Honey is a good thing because there is a lot of Bad Actors since people can abuse the Refund and that PayPal sides with the person who initiated the Refund DESPITE the Buyer showing ALL POSSIBLE PROOF, only to be denied the confirmation that said person bought said product BY PAYPAL THEMSELVES !
HOWEVER !
I still think the attack on LTT is unnecessary and out of context. Linus wants to move on and I understand his point of view. Why you are still attacking him over something that's over and done with since 2023 I genuinely do not understand at all...
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I think the Lawsuit against PayPal and Honey is a good thing because there is a lot of Bad Actors since people can abuse the Refund and that PayPal sides with the person who initiated the Refund DESPITE the Buyer showing ALL POSSIBLE PROOF, only to be denied the confirmation that said person bought said product BY PAYPAL THEMSELVES !
HOWEVER !
I still think the attack on LTT is unnecessary and out of context. Linus wants to move on and I understand his point of view. Why you are still attacking him over something that's over and done with since 2023 I genuinely do not understand at all...
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blakehelton8507
When GN first made their original video on LTT, it was well-founded, and brought up genuine concerns. However, mixed into those genuine concerns, was a whole bunch of bs intentionally designed to try to stir up drama with the intention of farming views, similar to how Keemstar operated at his peek. The latter seems to be the direction GN is going in these days, sad given that they do seem to have the ability to produce quality content of their own.
They got that sweet hit of success when they trashed LTT, and ever since they've just been fiending for another bump.
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When GN first made their original video on LTT, it was well-founded, and brought up genuine concerns. However, mixed into those genuine concerns, was a whole bunch of bs intentionally designed to try to stir up drama with the intention of farming views, similar to how Keemstar operated at his peek. The latter seems to be the direction GN is going in these days, sad given that they do seem to have the ability to produce quality content of their own.
They got that sweet hit of success when they trashed LTT, and ever since they've just been fiending for another bump.
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kadomills1396
this is actually a good video its annoying how its gonna be deemed as bad because of a 3 minute point about LTT's stance. before u say anything I've been watching Linus for years longer then GN and fully support both of these creators im just confused on what people think the context needed in the clip is Linus didn't seem to really care about honey's impact and offered no apology or real acknowledgement that saying smth would of been a good idea at the time, the clip GN uses summarizes his stance briefly to get onto the larger objective of the video
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this is actually a good video its annoying how its gonna be deemed as bad because of a 3 minute point about LTT's stance. before u say anything I've been watching Linus for years longer then GN and fully support both of these creators im just confused on what people think the context needed in the clip is Linus didn't seem to really care about honey's impact and offered no apology or real acknowledgement that saying smth would of been a good idea at the time, the clip GN uses summarizes his stance briefly to get onto the larger objective of the video
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arsenicsx
hello small 2.4 million account of GN. I'm not from US or Canada. if your brain don't have the capacity to understand. at that time, long before, LTT didn't know the impact of honey on me, the buyer. they only know the impact to affiliates.
so, you think if at that time, LTT said to me don't use Honey, LTT or small creators won't get money i would listen to LTT do you have mental issues me as a buyer wouldn't care if you don't get your affiliate money. as long as i get my discount coupon. your brain can handle that fact
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hello small 2.4 million account of GN. I'm not from US or Canada. if your brain don't have the capacity to understand. at that time, long before, LTT didn't know the impact of honey on me, the buyer. they only know the impact to affiliates.
so, you think if at that time, LTT said to me don't use Honey, LTT or small creators won't get money i would listen to LTT do you have mental issues me as a buyer wouldn't care if you don't get your affiliate money. as long as i get my discount coupon. your brain can handle that fact
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garypinholster1962
The D-Riding of LTT... Not even realizing the tiny TINY segment of the entire video is objectively just Steve saying hes gonna do what Linus should have done years ago.... its really not a jab. Its not some kinda of mega insult. If Linus takes issue with something like this publicly Imagine in private lmfao. All Steve is doing is making a statement. If the shoe fits thats on you. Notice all the comments about the LTT thing are from the last 24 hours OR are edited from X days ago. Clowns cant stop the ride.
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The D-Riding of LTT... Not even realizing the tiny TINY segment of the entire video is objectively just Steve saying hes gonna do what Linus should have done years ago.... its really not a jab. Its not some kinda of mega insult. If Linus takes issue with something like this publicly Imagine in private lmfao. All Steve is doing is making a statement. If the shoe fits thats on you. Notice all the comments about the LTT thing are from the last 24 hours OR are edited from X days ago. Clowns cant stop the ride.
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Vabear80
Linus has always cared just about himself and the money he makes. I stopped watching him when he had several bad takes on things. Like his opinon on Ad blockers, and him not giving an initial warranty on his laptop bag. Its always been one thing since another with him. I'm glad I back GN. They put alot of work into being an honest source of information but also they back the people.
Also Capital One has had a similar extension to Honey. I'd be interested to see if it works the same...
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Linus has always cared just about himself and the money he makes. I stopped watching him when he had several bad takes on things. Like his opinon on Ad blockers, and him not giving an initial warranty on his laptop bag. Its always been one thing since another with him. I'm glad I back GN. They put alot of work into being an honest source of information but also they back the people.
Also Capital One has had a similar extension to Honey. I'd be interested to see if it works the same...
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h4ppydr4gon
That is mindblowing how misleading and out of context the part about Linus is! Why even add it There is no reason.... At this point Steve and co. seems to be obsessed with coming up with dirt on Linus
Just talk about Honey and keep other things out of it. Let's not fight anymore. At least exchange opinions in a proper manner and let's remember, there are reasons, there are guidelines for journalism and so on. It's not to be as questionable as possible or just to annoy you
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That is mindblowing how misleading and out of context the part about Linus is! Why even add it There is no reason.... At this point Steve and co. seems to be obsessed with coming up with dirt on Linus
Just talk about Honey and keep other things out of it. Let's not fight anymore. At least exchange opinions in a proper manner and let's remember, there are reasons, there are guidelines for journalism and so on. It's not to be as questionable as possible or just to annoy you
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TPCDAZ
I'm not really a big fan of either Linus or Steve but it's pretty clear that Steve has decided to use his platform to vent some personal frustration against Linus or LTT as a whole. I'm assuming it's jealousy. Steve is also lucky that Linus is anti lawsuits. Another creator could have rinsed him for his libel. Also Steve acting like you taking on Paypal is some big landmark thing isn't really the case. The Legal Eagle did this weeks ago you're just copying suit.
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I'm not really a big fan of either Linus or Steve but it's pretty clear that Steve has decided to use his platform to vent some personal frustration against Linus or LTT as a whole. I'm assuming it's jealousy. Steve is also lucky that Linus is anti lawsuits. Another creator could have rinsed him for his libel. Also Steve acting like you taking on Paypal is some big landmark thing isn't really the case. The Legal Eagle did this weeks ago you're just copying suit.
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ralaggung2500
I don't understand why you have to bring up LTT in video regarding PayPal and Honey's shady and possibly illegal business practices. You are diluting the topic with pointless drama. You may have different views on how LTT should have acted when LTT dropped Honey as their sponsor but what LTT did back then was completely neutral and I know you are smart enough to understand their position and decision back then. Very disappointing.
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I don't understand why you have to bring up LTT in video regarding PayPal and Honey's shady and possibly illegal business practices. You are diluting the topic with pointless drama. You may have different views on how LTT should have acted when LTT dropped Honey as their sponsor but what LTT did back then was completely neutral and I know you are smart enough to understand their position and decision back then. Very disappointing.
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jamessimmons292
I just wanted to give my two cents on the gamers Nexus and Linus Tech tips back-and-forth drama. I really wish you guys would air out your grievances behind the scenes. I saw the Wan Show with Linus on Friday, and he talked about it for like 30 minutes... I hope you guys can repair your relationship one day. Anyway, all the best. I look forward to watching your videos on the new GPU releases once they come out.
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I just wanted to give my two cents on the gamers Nexus and Linus Tech tips back-and-forth drama. I really wish you guys would air out your grievances behind the scenes. I saw the Wan Show with Linus on Friday, and he talked about it for like 30 minutes... I hope you guys can repair your relationship one day. Anyway, all the best. I look forward to watching your videos on the new GPU releases once they come out.
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Hobo_X
Steve you've always stood on doing the right thing. I think this is a case where you need to admit you held a small amount of bias against LTT and so you did not understand the full context of that statement. It's not that bad of a mistake and it also shows you're owning up to your mistakes. It's setting an example of what you're asking all the other entities you cover in these investigations to do themselves.
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Steve you've always stood on doing the right thing. I think this is a case where you need to admit you held a small amount of bias against LTT and so you did not understand the full context of that statement. It's not that bad of a mistake and it also shows you're owning up to your mistakes. It's setting an example of what you're asking all the other entities you cover in these investigations to do themselves.
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StunnerAlpha
Consistently coming out disingenuously against LTT and lying to your viewer base is unacceptable and I thought more highly of Game's Nexus. I have unsubbed and will be telling my friend circle to do so as well. Stop acting like you are better than LTT. You aren't, you are actually far worse. Do better, this is unethical and toxic. Time for you to reflect on yourself before judging and going after others.
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Consistently coming out disingenuously against LTT and lying to your viewer base is unacceptable and I thought more highly of Game's Nexus. I have unsubbed and will be telling my friend circle to do so as well. Stop acting like you are better than LTT. You aren't, you are actually far worse. Do better, this is unethical and toxic. Time for you to reflect on yourself before judging and going after others.
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yunscott8754
I'd love to see a response to LTT's WAN show. Recently, I've felt like Steve had too much of his own cool-aid, and seemed to behave too assertively of sometimes very minor things noting - NEEDS TO CHANGE, IS UNACCEPTABLE. While Steve does make valid point in many things, I feel like he has been slowly losing the touch by walling himself into his own zone. I'm gonna get so much hate from this comment. lul
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I'd love to see a response to LTT's WAN show. Recently, I've felt like Steve had too much of his own cool-aid, and seemed to behave too assertively of sometimes very minor things noting - NEEDS TO CHANGE, IS UNACCEPTABLE. While Steve does make valid point in many things, I feel like he has been slowly losing the touch by walling himself into his own zone. I'm gonna get so much hate from this comment. lul
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