Why Businesses Use Windows Server - Chris Titus Tech
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Date: 2022-03-21
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Ertan
I think Question is wrong, bussines not use Winodws Server. Generaly use Windows Desktop so on this moment you are right AD also AD components ( like GPO ) more important. But on Server side they are using Vmware, Proxmox, RHEL instead of Hyper-V. On Application side company can not select base system, that means software devoloper select base operation system that means if software developer say Linux then company use linux if say Windows company use Windows... In this moment we have two question Why company use Windows Desktop second why sotware devoloper select Windows ?
For my idea System admin select Windows because of that Hardware support easy driver integration also AD most important point. So another question why Windows have better hardware support because they have some centrall solition for hardware company like DirectX :D or some native driver solition for first instalation etc... (Also Linux have native support to many hardware but native means we can not use that hardware full peroformance or full feature so need manufacturer support for manufacturer support Linux need some centrall system )
Second Question; why programmer select Windows because also have some fireworks also some API and some centrall system like OCBD so programmer generaly write one code for any windows but on liunux this is not possible actually Programmer every time update own software and need repack for diffrent Linux or same Linux diffrent distro maybe SNAPd and Container system will fix this problem but also Linux need some centrall system..
Also system admin know this, centrall system or centrall api means low performance but system admin can be accept %10 low performance for stability compatibility etc....
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I think Question is wrong, bussines not use Winodws Server. Generaly use Windows Desktop so on this moment you are right AD also AD components ( like GPO ) more important. But on Server side they are using Vmware, Proxmox, RHEL instead of Hyper-V. On Application side company can not select base system, that means software devoloper select base operation system that means if software developer say Linux then company use linux if say Windows company use Windows... In this moment we have two question Why company use Windows Desktop second why sotware devoloper select Windows ?
For my idea System admin select Windows because of that Hardware support easy driver integration also AD most important point. So another question why Windows have better hardware support because they have some centrall solition for hardware company like DirectX :D or some native driver solition for first instalation etc... (Also Linux have native support to many hardware but native means we can not use that hardware full peroformance or full feature so need manufacturer support for manufacturer support Linux need some centrall system )
Second Question; why programmer select Windows because also have some fireworks also some API and some centrall system like OCBD so programmer generaly write one code for any windows but on liunux this is not possible actually Programmer every time update own software and need repack for diffrent Linux or same Linux diffrent distro maybe SNAPd and Container system will fix this problem but also Linux need some centrall system..
Also system admin know this, centrall system or centrall api means low performance but system admin can be accept %10 low performance for stability compatibility etc....
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Le
Hey Chris,
I have a question for you... Hope you can answer or make a video about it...
First-off, I love the fact that an hardcore Microsoft Admin/User is even attempting what you are doing... Keep on the good work, it is worth it!
Here is an intro, I was a backup admin on Active Directory for a year, and now, a full system admin on Azure AD. (The one included with business essential licences)
The company is fully O365 integrated, with Sharepoint and everything... We are using O365 services to their limits (and have found many!). Microsoft being Microsoft, they always change the rules and we loose functionalities on a weekly basis...
Also, as a side note, I manage the complete Microsoft infrastructure and don't Own a Windows computer... I do everything on Linux!
The company is making a slow turn (powered by me!) in the direction of Free and Open Source solutions. Namely, we are slowly switching the dev team to Linux desktop because The dev environment is a nightmare on Windows and WSL...
Here comes the question:
Azure AD, Sharepoint, O365 etc. makes it sooooo easy to manage users that I am spoiled! What would you use to build a business based on Linux? For Groups, User Management, Authentication, etc...
Basically, I want to be able to deploy new users in the blink of an eye, Like on Azure (auto-deploy users environments) and be able to lock users in or out in a click (or command) Like Azure permits...
We are slowly deploying web services on docker containers on a swarm... So far it has been great, but it does not help with the desktop apps etc.
Thanks for your input.
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Hey Chris,
I have a question for you... Hope you can answer or make a video about it...
First-off, I love the fact that an hardcore Microsoft Admin/User is even attempting what you are doing... Keep on the good work, it is worth it!
Here is an intro, I was a backup admin on Active Directory for a year, and now, a full system admin on Azure AD. (The one included with business essential licences)
The company is fully O365 integrated, with Sharepoint and everything... We are using O365 services to their limits (and have found many!). Microsoft being Microsoft, they always change the rules and we loose functionalities on a weekly basis...
Also, as a side note, I manage the complete Microsoft infrastructure and don't Own a Windows computer... I do everything on Linux!
The company is making a slow turn (powered by me!) in the direction of Free and Open Source solutions. Namely, we are slowly switching the dev team to Linux desktop because The dev environment is a nightmare on Windows and WSL...
Here comes the question:
Azure AD, Sharepoint, O365 etc. makes it sooooo easy to manage users that I am spoiled! What would you use to build a business based on Linux? For Groups, User Management, Authentication, etc...
Basically, I want to be able to deploy new users in the blink of an eye, Like on Azure (auto-deploy users environments) and be able to lock users in or out in a click (or command) Like Azure permits...
We are slowly deploying web services on docker containers on a swarm... So far it has been great, but it does not help with the desktop apps etc.
Thanks for your input.
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fiddley
Everybody gets GPOs wrong, you SHOULD have the minimal amount of GPOs with settings applied as far up the OU tree as possible. 99% of your users will require the same 99% of the settings so they go in one ginormo GPO at the top of the tree. Do the same for your common computer settings so you have two GPOs, and that's it! When you get down to needing more specialisation, you apply just those special settings that differentiate a particular department, or office or business unit, or geographical region, or whatever your particular delineation scheme is and you set those further down the tree. If you have done your GPOs correctly those specialist settings usually have under 10 rules in them and troubleshooting is an absolute breeze. When you simplify things like this as far as you possibly can (Achieving such simplicity is not for the faint of heart btw) you will find that GPOs are amazing and easy and you should be able to effortlessly manage estates of practically unlimited size, 100 to 10,000 or more
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Everybody gets GPOs wrong, you SHOULD have the minimal amount of GPOs with settings applied as far up the OU tree as possible. 99% of your users will require the same 99% of the settings so they go in one ginormo GPO at the top of the tree. Do the same for your common computer settings so you have two GPOs, and that's it! When you get down to needing more specialisation, you apply just those special settings that differentiate a particular department, or office or business unit, or geographical region, or whatever your particular delineation scheme is and you set those further down the tree. If you have done your GPOs correctly those specialist settings usually have under 10 rules in them and troubleshooting is an absolute breeze. When you simplify things like this as far as you possibly can (Achieving such simplicity is not for the faint of heart btw) you will find that GPOs are amazing and easy and you should be able to effortlessly manage estates of practically unlimited size, 100 to 10,000 or more
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Nihal
Active Directory is like audio cassettes. It is outdated and based on outdated technology. With cloud computing, smartphones and web based access, I find it very silly for an enterprise to implement Active Directory. I can't believe I am running it on my production network at home (been running it since 2005). Once you join a computer to a domain, that computer is now part to that domain. Zero flexibility of logging into another domain. You have to disjoin and join the other domain, which involves domain admin permissions and reboots. Even the Windows 9x and ME login feature (something they yanked out of XP Home which is really dumb of microsoft) implemented the BYOD model of you, or a guest, being able to log into active directory on your computer and access file shares. Why can't we have this same kind of flexibility with Windows NT? Windows XP? Windows 10? I don't get it.
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Active Directory is like audio cassettes. It is outdated and based on outdated technology. With cloud computing, smartphones and web based access, I find it very silly for an enterprise to implement Active Directory. I can't believe I am running it on my production network at home (been running it since 2005). Once you join a computer to a domain, that computer is now part to that domain. Zero flexibility of logging into another domain. You have to disjoin and join the other domain, which involves domain admin permissions and reboots. Even the Windows 9x and ME login feature (something they yanked out of XP Home which is really dumb of microsoft) implemented the BYOD model of you, or a guest, being able to log into active directory on your computer and access file shares. Why can't we have this same kind of flexibility with Windows NT? Windows XP? Windows 10? I don't get it.
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Bo
ZFS is not based on BSD (Free or otherwise). One could argue that Solaris (System V Release 4) had the original BSD as part of it's base (The other two were System V and Xenix.), but the BSD releases we know today (OpenBSD and FreeBSD) are derivatives of the original BSD code.
ZFS was created by SUN Microsystems. They also releases an open source license of it with the OpenSolaris. This was later removed when Oracle bought Sun Microsystems. The open source version of ZFS has been ported to many OS versions such as Linux, MacOS and BSD. It's now maintained as OpenZFS. I run both Solaris and Linux platforms using ZFS, and I can easily say that the Solaris version of ZFS if far more stable and functional than the OpenZFS based ports.
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ZFS is not based on BSD (Free or otherwise). One could argue that Solaris (System V Release 4) had the original BSD as part of it's base (The other two were System V and Xenix.), but the BSD releases we know today (OpenBSD and FreeBSD) are derivatives of the original BSD code.
ZFS was created by SUN Microsystems. They also releases an open source license of it with the OpenSolaris. This was later removed when Oracle bought Sun Microsystems. The open source version of ZFS has been ported to many OS versions such as Linux, MacOS and BSD. It's now maintained as OpenZFS. I run both Solaris and Linux platforms using ZFS, and I can easily say that the Solaris version of ZFS if far more stable and functional than the OpenZFS based ports.
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Claus
Wow Azure should be fine. What a joke. AD was not good but it was a primitive kind of directory as far from the directory standard it could be. Azure is made like NT, just one long colomn and not any directory featre at all. Neither AD or Axure can have millions of users, so it is both old fashion and not worth they money it cost. Never used one dollar on Microsoft but worked with that simple shit all my live. The good thing is, that a 10 years can learn to handle it, not complexity there. Old fashion not got shit. The biggest joke ever. But please keep talking, I finished after 1:20.
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Wow Azure should be fine. What a joke. AD was not good but it was a primitive kind of directory as far from the directory standard it could be. Azure is made like NT, just one long colomn and not any directory featre at all. Neither AD or Axure can have millions of users, so it is both old fashion and not worth they money it cost. Never used one dollar on Microsoft but worked with that simple shit all my live. The good thing is, that a 10 years can learn to handle it, not complexity there. Old fashion not got shit. The biggest joke ever. But please keep talking, I finished after 1:20.
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Elijah
I used to work for a very small company that used windows server. They were not using active directory, or even any virtualization of any kind, yet spent the money on windows server 2012 r2 and a dell tower server computer. It hurt my brain and soul how much money he spent on what was used as a nas and quickbooks server.
-Edit Also i saw some comments about people shoving this stuff in a closet. Theirs was in a really hot non ventilated closet with a bunch of DIY wiring to add stuff that the business used. It was sketchy and kinda dangerous in there. Not to mention so so hot.
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I used to work for a very small company that used windows server. They were not using active directory, or even any virtualization of any kind, yet spent the money on windows server 2012 r2 and a dell tower server computer. It hurt my brain and soul how much money he spent on what was used as a nas and quickbooks server.
-Edit Also i saw some comments about people shoving this stuff in a closet. Theirs was in a really hot non ventilated closet with a bunch of DIY wiring to add stuff that the business used. It was sketchy and kinda dangerous in there. Not to mention so so hot.
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Compuguy
I was curious how you mention -no one uses IIS anymore- I know many shops using it for .net, older ASP web applications which are also being moved into SharePoint which sits on IIS. while I do agree many new smaller companies are using cloud to spin up Apache/Tomcat, there are many who bought into the Microsoft platform of Exchange, Office, SharePoint and Active Directory. I agree about the mess of GPO's many admins dont realize the power of separation of the policies, its a cleaner way for sure to manage. Love the video's, catching up watching your older content.
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I was curious how you mention -no one uses IIS anymore- I know many shops using it for .net, older ASP web applications which are also being moved into SharePoint which sits on IIS. while I do agree many new smaller companies are using cloud to spin up Apache/Tomcat, there are many who bought into the Microsoft platform of Exchange, Office, SharePoint and Active Directory. I agree about the mess of GPO's many admins dont realize the power of separation of the policies, its a cleaner way for sure to manage. Love the video's, catching up watching your older content.
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Tony
I know this is an old video, but I'd love to see a follow up demonstrating a Linux server with Linux workstations and showing us how to do the Linux equivalent of gpo's (if there is one), and maybe a cups server for SOHO no-frills printers. How would you set up a user so they could log into any workstation, and their password login/password would work and perhaps their desktop settings/wallpaper etc port across to all machines (and I don't mean a mainframe-thinclient setup)
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I know this is an old video, but I'd love to see a follow up demonstrating a Linux server with Linux workstations and showing us how to do the Linux equivalent of gpo's (if there is one), and maybe a cups server for SOHO no-frills printers. How would you set up a user so they could log into any workstation, and their password login/password would work and perhaps their desktop settings/wallpaper etc port across to all machines (and I don't mean a mainframe-thinclient setup)
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CruZer0
we just migrated our old fileserver (Server 2008) to Server 2019 via file replication. Is this really that bad? We use the fileserver so users get their own space where they can put their files. And also other Shares like -Groupshares-. We often have the Problem that our login script fails to connect shares from the fileserver to the user's client pc. There isnt even an error message or anything. But thats pretty much it. Is there a better way to do this?
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we just migrated our old fileserver (Server 2008) to Server 2019 via file replication. Is this really that bad? We use the fileserver so users get their own space where they can put their files. And also other Shares like -Groupshares-. We often have the Problem that our login script fails to connect shares from the fileserver to the user's client pc. There isnt even an error message or anything. But thats pretty much it. Is there a better way to do this?
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