Proprietary Drivers vs Open Source - nVidia vs AMD - Chris Titus Tech
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Date: 2022-03-21
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undeadbobop
Everytime I have used nvidia cards I have had nothing but issues with nvidia cards, I have had less issues when amd launched their first gen APU's than with any nvidia card. The card I have now is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MSI Gaming X 6GB OC Twin Frozr7 card which has a fan that can and will stop if temps are low, this inside of linux by default is disabled. Meaning the fans will NEVER turn on, this card attempts to kill itself on using linux. You have to download the nvidia drivers, install them, modify some value to turn fans on always and it presents a void warenty if used message yes/no and if you check yes it some how voids your warenty on a card that would otherwise kill itself, and then use GreenwithEnvy's fan controller to turn down the fan speed. If greenwithenvy isn't running your card will eventually kill itself. This is some heavy oversight either on MSI's end or nvidia's. But out of the people I know that have basically the same thing in the AMD chips they do not have this issue.
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Everytime I have used nvidia cards I have had nothing but issues with nvidia cards, I have had less issues when amd launched their first gen APU's than with any nvidia card. The card I have now is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti MSI Gaming X 6GB OC Twin Frozr7 card which has a fan that can and will stop if temps are low, this inside of linux by default is disabled. Meaning the fans will NEVER turn on, this card attempts to kill itself on using linux. You have to download the nvidia drivers, install them, modify some value to turn fans on always and it presents a void warenty if used message yes/no and if you check yes it some how voids your warenty on a card that would otherwise kill itself, and then use GreenwithEnvy's fan controller to turn down the fan speed. If greenwithenvy isn't running your card will eventually kill itself. This is some heavy oversight either on MSI's end or nvidia's. But out of the people I know that have basically the same thing in the AMD chips they do not have this issue.
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trssho91
I currently have all nvidia cards-but it seems lately the nvidia drivers have some weird issues creeping up like the desktop corruption coming out of suspend or compositing performance issues (while everything else including gaming is fine). This is the first time in over a decade I have had deal breaking issues out of the box that require more time to research and fix than I-d prefer to put into it. I-m older now with less time on my hands and there is a reason I don-t use Debian or Slackware anymore and use things like kubuntu or mint. I do like the nvidia control panel that comes with their proprietary driver, does amds open source driver have anything comparable? It-s not a deal breaker for me, but it would be nice. My card is getting older and I was considering upgrading and thinking about giving AMD a try for the first time since my old ATi 9700 pro if or when the gpu price bubble pops.
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I currently have all nvidia cards-but it seems lately the nvidia drivers have some weird issues creeping up like the desktop corruption coming out of suspend or compositing performance issues (while everything else including gaming is fine). This is the first time in over a decade I have had deal breaking issues out of the box that require more time to research and fix than I-d prefer to put into it. I-m older now with less time on my hands and there is a reason I don-t use Debian or Slackware anymore and use things like kubuntu or mint. I do like the nvidia control panel that comes with their proprietary driver, does amds open source driver have anything comparable? It-s not a deal breaker for me, but it would be nice. My card is getting older and I was considering upgrading and thinking about giving AMD a try for the first time since my old ATi 9700 pro if or when the gpu price bubble pops.
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Frank
It's really annoying to have to constantly listen to these Linux people when I seek information. They invariably spend their time spouting unknown initials, and using jargon that is unknown to beginners like me.
Because of this kind of bragging -apparently widespread in Linux World- it has taken me two months to load Linux Mint, instead of the few days it should have taken. Now, as I try to resolve my issues with an Nvidia driver all I get is more bragging gobbledygook.
I'm tired of lucking onto answers to my Linux issues. Find me someone who isn't interested in bragging on themselves, and who actually wants to convey information.
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It's really annoying to have to constantly listen to these Linux people when I seek information. They invariably spend their time spouting unknown initials, and using jargon that is unknown to beginners like me.
Because of this kind of bragging -apparently widespread in Linux World- it has taken me two months to load Linux Mint, instead of the few days it should have taken. Now, as I try to resolve my issues with an Nvidia driver all I get is more bragging gobbledygook.
I'm tired of lucking onto answers to my Linux issues. Find me someone who isn't interested in bragging on themselves, and who actually wants to convey information.
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Ardeshir
AMD GPUs are awful when it comes to Linux. there is no CUDA, and that means you are not able to run libraries like Tensorflow on your GPU. AMD GPUs are also not fully compatible with wine. and that means even though their drivers are open-sourced there is still a long list of Games and graphical applications like Altium Designer that will not run on AMD's GPUs. The bottom line is if you want to use Linux you better off buying an NVIDIA GPU even though their driver is closed source. I once fooled into buying an AMD R9 380 a few years ago and I will not make that mistake again. Instead, I'm going to buy an RTX 2060s this time.
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AMD GPUs are awful when it comes to Linux. there is no CUDA, and that means you are not able to run libraries like Tensorflow on your GPU. AMD GPUs are also not fully compatible with wine. and that means even though their drivers are open-sourced there is still a long list of Games and graphical applications like Altium Designer that will not run on AMD's GPUs. The bottom line is if you want to use Linux you better off buying an NVIDIA GPU even though their driver is closed source. I once fooled into buying an AMD R9 380 a few years ago and I will not make that mistake again. Instead, I'm going to buy an RTX 2060s this time.
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PowWowChicken
It's not a cash grab by intel. The difference is that AMD over engineers their PCB/motherboards so they take advantage of that by the next generation. Unlike intel with does the cheapest way to release their platform. The reason why they are expensive is because of their RND dept. They have a way bigger budget which means they spend more and therefore they have to make back that $ on their investment. AMD is a smaller company so they have to work on a lower Budget.
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It's not a cash grab by intel. The difference is that AMD over engineers their PCB/motherboards so they take advantage of that by the next generation. Unlike intel with does the cheapest way to release their platform. The reason why they are expensive is because of their RND dept. They have a way bigger budget which means they spend more and therefore they have to make back that $ on their investment. AMD is a smaller company so they have to work on a lower Budget.
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Zoran
Please my Linux brothers, i need your help.
I want to switch so bad on Manjaro, but the problem is, when i play a video on youtube in 4k, video is smooth but when i play it on Manjaro on 4k, video start to stutter.-
Does anyone knows how can i fix that so i can move finally to Manjaro?-
Sudo apt plshelpme
(i have laptop with integrated Intel UHD 620 and dedicated AMD Radeon 530)
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Please my Linux brothers, i need your help.
I want to switch so bad on Manjaro, but the problem is, when i play a video on youtube in 4k, video is smooth but when i play it on Manjaro on 4k, video start to stutter.-
Does anyone knows how can i fix that so i can move finally to Manjaro?-
Sudo apt plshelpme
(i have laptop with integrated Intel UHD 620 and dedicated AMD Radeon 530)
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Stop
So surprised to hear you recommend the RX 580. I'm watching these videos because I'm on the edge of giving up on my rx580 and dumping it on ebay second hand. I have tried the kernel driver, the Asus driver, the AMDGPU probably not installed correctly and the computer has never booted reliably. I have wandered if Mint20 is a problem because all the reading I find is using older distro's.
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So surprised to hear you recommend the RX 580. I'm watching these videos because I'm on the edge of giving up on my rx580 and dumping it on ebay second hand. I have tried the kernel driver, the Asus driver, the AMDGPU probably not installed correctly and the computer has never booted reliably. I have wandered if Mint20 is a problem because all the reading I find is using older distro's.
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Milan
Chris Titus hi,
I have an AIO AMD Ryzen 5 3500U PC and a Vega 8 graphics card.
I installed my favorite Linux Debian 11.
I only get 800x600 monitor resolution and nothing more.
As a Linux expert, you can help me with a driver to change the monitor resolution.
I've been looking for 1 month to find any driver for Radeon Vega 8, but to no avail.
Thanks.
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Chris Titus hi,
I have an AIO AMD Ryzen 5 3500U PC and a Vega 8 graphics card.
I installed my favorite Linux Debian 11.
I only get 800x600 monitor resolution and nothing more.
As a Linux expert, you can help me with a driver to change the monitor resolution.
I've been looking for 1 month to find any driver for Radeon Vega 8, but to no avail.
Thanks.
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robert
I got a optiplex 5040 SFF and ordered a radeon r5 2GB card that will fit that should be coming today. This answers my question as I know very little about the hardware end and will be getting a vanilla Arch install. This is on top of my SSD for root/grub and HDD for swap/home/var setup.
Not as scary as I thought it would be.
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I got a optiplex 5040 SFF and ordered a radeon r5 2GB card that will fit that should be coming today. This answers my question as I know very little about the hardware end and will be getting a vanilla Arch install. This is on top of my SSD for root/grub and HDD for swap/home/var setup.
Not as scary as I thought it would be.
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Masked
Hello Sir, I have an AMD graphics card that is causing me problems, and since it's attached to the motherboard disabling the driver is the only way to fix the problem, so how can I do that on Linux, I've been doing it on windows easily but I'm planning to switch to Linux and I don't know how to do that on there
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Hello Sir, I have an AMD graphics card that is causing me problems, and since it's attached to the motherboard disabling the driver is the only way to fix the problem, so how can I do that on Linux, I've been doing it on windows easily but I'm planning to switch to Linux and I don't know how to do that on there
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