The Web Is Broken Beyond Repair. The Alternative? GOPHER! DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Ron
About 7 years back, I started writing white papers for a Gopher-v2 to be used for libraries to be able to share media files between branches, as well as have a completely barebones media & info display (just text and digital media), and a special lookup system featuring info & media about a title. It could also be used as an overflow service - especially on websites who're part of a network. It would be text-compatible with gopher-v1 servers via a trick (a v2 client would put a -+- at the beginning of the request, if communicating with a v2 server the server would reply with a code, kicking the client into v2 mode - else it would remain in v1 mode). Kinda lost the whole thing over the years.
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About 7 years back, I started writing white papers for a Gopher-v2 to be used for libraries to be able to share media files between branches, as well as have a completely barebones media & info display (just text and digital media), and a special lookup system featuring info & media about a title. It could also be used as an overflow service - especially on websites who're part of a network. It would be text-compatible with gopher-v1 servers via a trick (a v2 client would put a -+- at the beginning of the request, if communicating with a v2 server the server would reply with a code, kicking the client into v2 mode - else it would remain in v1 mode). Kinda lost the whole thing over the years.
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Rumble
The problem is really that we've turned the web into an app platform. We need something that supports all the modern rich web content without the 20 years of hacks we built on top of a document protocol. The idea that you have applications hosted on servers and accessed on demand from a much thinner client is great imo. Going back to links and text just turns it back into a niche interest hobby.
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The problem is really that we've turned the web into an app platform. We need something that supports all the modern rich web content without the 20 years of hacks we built on top of a document protocol. The idea that you have applications hosted on servers and accessed on demand from a much thinner client is great imo. Going back to links and text just turns it back into a niche interest hobby.
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Azathoth
if linux then archlinux.org better binaries than nix and no compiling unless have really insanely ratre package liek gentoo up to date modern packages makes archlinux no1 and rolling release kernel is just a package and dweebain years behind i type this on firefox on icewm on archlinux 5.8.13 linux also pacman nice pacakge manager and BSD inits. freebsd does not work with pharo.org
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if linux then archlinux.org better binaries than nix and no compiling unless have really insanely ratre package liek gentoo up to date modern packages makes archlinux no1 and rolling release kernel is just a package and dweebain years behind i type this on firefox on icewm on archlinux 5.8.13 linux also pacman nice pacakge manager and BSD inits. freebsd does not work with pharo.org
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Andrew
Finally bit the bullet and installed pygopher on my raspberry pi, and after things settle I plan on aiming it at the web to see what happens.
It is exceedingly low bandwidth. As in rounding errors in network traffic
Edit: since this post o have moved on to Gemini as it suits my sensebilities more and provides features I find important.
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Finally bit the bullet and installed pygopher on my raspberry pi, and after things settle I plan on aiming it at the web to see what happens.
It is exceedingly low bandwidth. As in rounding errors in network traffic
Edit: since this post o have moved on to Gemini as it suits my sensebilities more and provides features I find important.
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Azathoth
Trump needs to stop law system from saying a web site owner is liable for something a website user does. Thats insane. Liek dating site match.com ok but craigslsit can't have personals anymore because fi some guy rapes a girl its somehow carigslsit fault. huge lack of personal responsability. Why eharmony ok?
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Trump needs to stop law system from saying a web site owner is liable for something a website user does. Thats insane. Liek dating site match.com ok but craigslsit can't have personals anymore because fi some guy rapes a girl its somehow carigslsit fault. huge lack of personal responsability. Why eharmony ok?
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Riley
Linux needs to actively make improvements to the web ecosystem, not move backwards by using ancient protocols like this. There's no reason to use something like this other than nostalgia or something.
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Linux needs to actively make improvements to the web ecosystem, not move backwards by using ancient protocols like this. There's no reason to use something like this other than nostalgia or something.
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Sergey
Hey, DT, wish you would have kept your gopher alive. Gemini is OK, but it needs special browsers. While Gopher works fine in w3m. Good luck and please make more videos like this.
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Hey, DT, wish you would have kept your gopher alive. Gemini is OK, but it needs special browsers. While Gopher works fine in w3m. Good luck and please make more videos like this.
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Maddo
-DistroTube have you looked at gemini? Perhaps it would be worth a video, it's an evolution of gopher, with a markup (inspired by markdown) instead of plain text.
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-DistroTube have you looked at gemini? Perhaps it would be worth a video, it's an evolution of gopher, with a markup (inspired by markdown) instead of plain text.
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Artoooooor
Do I understand correctly that it's just a protocol allowing to fetch file from server? Is there anything that prevents serving -bloated- page using it?
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Do I understand correctly that it's just a protocol allowing to fetch file from server? Is there anything that prevents serving -bloated- page using it?
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landoc05
Linux growth is fueling the re-birth of Gopher because it comes installed by default, or it's easy to install and have working in a minute.
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Linux growth is fueling the re-birth of Gopher because it comes installed by default, or it's easy to install and have working in a minute.
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