Is Arch The New Ubuntu? DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Chris
Personally I think one of the more prevalent reasons for Ubuntu losing popularity for gamers is because they announced they would be dropping 32bit support and 32bit libs from their repos. Now they did reverse that decision before 20.04 released, but it showed Canonical wants to move in that direction eventually. When you consider that more than half of all Native Linux games on steam still require 32bit libs to run, dropping 32bit support entirely would have been and still may be a huge mistake if they pull the trigger on that move in the future be that 22.04 or some interim 2X.10 release before that.
Canonical has also pulled some shady stuff in the last 10 years or so, and is always known for introducing new services before killing them off entirely before their time. Ubuntu One comes to mind, Unity is another. I personally don't see much reason to use Ubuntu of every year I'm gonna have to sign up for or invest time into a brand new default app or service or way of doing something just as the old one was getting better with updates. With Arch, I just know that an update isn't going to remove, replace or Bork something like my package manager or desktop environment.
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Personally I think one of the more prevalent reasons for Ubuntu losing popularity for gamers is because they announced they would be dropping 32bit support and 32bit libs from their repos. Now they did reverse that decision before 20.04 released, but it showed Canonical wants to move in that direction eventually. When you consider that more than half of all Native Linux games on steam still require 32bit libs to run, dropping 32bit support entirely would have been and still may be a huge mistake if they pull the trigger on that move in the future be that 22.04 or some interim 2X.10 release before that.
Canonical has also pulled some shady stuff in the last 10 years or so, and is always known for introducing new services before killing them off entirely before their time. Ubuntu One comes to mind, Unity is another. I personally don't see much reason to use Ubuntu of every year I'm gonna have to sign up for or invest time into a brand new default app or service or way of doing something just as the old one was getting better with updates. With Arch, I just know that an update isn't going to remove, replace or Bork something like my package manager or desktop environment.
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Epsilonsama
2 years later and I think this trend is still going and I think part of it is Canonical push of Snap and their abandoment of Desktop Linux to become a corporate enterprise Linux instead. I installed Ubuntu recently and Snap made everything slow and it updated things whenever it wanted. Installing Arch this days is not hard at all with the default ISO having a guided Install. Overall Arch is a pretty simple Distro to maintain and their Wiki is pretty good.
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2 years later and I think this trend is still going and I think part of it is Canonical push of Snap and their abandoment of Desktop Linux to become a corporate enterprise Linux instead. I installed Ubuntu recently and Snap made everything slow and it updated things whenever it wanted. Installing Arch this days is not hard at all with the default ISO having a guided Install. Overall Arch is a pretty simple Distro to maintain and their Wiki is pretty good.
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Rational
I wouldn't say Arch is the -new Ubuntu- exactly, but rather Manjaro in particular is to Arch what Ubuntu was to Debian, and I think it's good to have more diversity in the ecosystem of distros that desktop user are using. I think Ubuntu will remain popular for a long time to come, but Manjaro will provide some balance.
Personally I use Debian, I do some gaming, never had an issue with it, and I rarely have to add unofficial repositories.
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I wouldn't say Arch is the -new Ubuntu- exactly, but rather Manjaro in particular is to Arch what Ubuntu was to Debian, and I think it's good to have more diversity in the ecosystem of distros that desktop user are using. I think Ubuntu will remain popular for a long time to come, but Manjaro will provide some balance.
Personally I use Debian, I do some gaming, never had an issue with it, and I rarely have to add unofficial repositories.
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David
Would love to agree with you, but to me that's just wishful thinking lol... At my home I use Arch and love it, would install it everywhere, but the company I currently work to pre-installs Ubuntu and won't let us install anything else. And it has been so since 2012 with all the companies I work for. If they allowed the employees to change their distros, devs were just too lazy to format
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Would love to agree with you, but to me that's just wishful thinking lol... At my home I use Arch and love it, would install it everywhere, but the company I currently work to pre-installs Ubuntu and won't let us install anything else. And it has been so since 2012 with all the companies I work for. If they allowed the employees to change their distros, devs were just too lazy to format
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CUN_009
Arch and aur are frickin good !! My canon printer driver was useless in Ubuntu. It installed but never worked. But when I installed gutenprint and an aur of my printer, then installed it. The printer was working !!
I jumped from manjaro to arch just to taste what original food tasted. Now it stopped my distro hopping just because how responsive it is and how good the archwiki is.
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Arch and aur are frickin good !! My canon printer driver was useless in Ubuntu. It installed but never worked. But when I installed gutenprint and an aur of my printer, then installed it. The printer was working !!
I jumped from manjaro to arch just to taste what original food tasted. Now it stopped my distro hopping just because how responsive it is and how good the archwiki is.
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mamamia88
I prefer manjaro. I like new software just as much as everybody else but, if it's delayed by a month from arch to be properly tested so be it. You can even get a barebones installer. For everything else with decent hardware I'll just go with a Ubuntu lts derivative add a couple ppas and call it a day Main concern is not being lightweight it's more in just getting on with my life
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I prefer manjaro. I like new software just as much as everybody else but, if it's delayed by a month from arch to be properly tested so be it. You can even get a barebones installer. For everything else with decent hardware I'll just go with a Ubuntu lts derivative add a couple ppas and call it a day Main concern is not being lightweight it's more in just getting on with my life
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it_industry
I think it's also cause of how great arch is in general, and with manjaro being much easy to install that means everyone can enjoy arch without having to worry about the installation.
And rhe internet has been making installing vanilla arch far less scary (I properly started using linux 4 months ago and arch wasn't that hard thanks to video tutorials)
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I think it's also cause of how great arch is in general, and with manjaro being much easy to install that means everyone can enjoy arch without having to worry about the installation.
And rhe internet has been making installing vanilla arch far less scary (I properly started using linux 4 months ago and arch wasn't that hard thanks to video tutorials)
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Mark
Arch is only more popular if you live in arch forums and sub reddits.
For many if not most use cases stability and security are more important than bleeding edge. Specially for actual work loads as opposed to linux computer hobbyist which I feel are the ones you hear from most online. But hey whatever works for you - I don't use either
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Arch is only more popular if you live in arch forums and sub reddits.
For many if not most use cases stability and security are more important than bleeding edge. Specially for actual work loads as opposed to linux computer hobbyist which I feel are the ones you hear from most online. But hey whatever works for you - I don't use either
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Subaru
game is more smooth on arch then on ubuntu. like Nier, i can max out all the setting on arch but on ubuntu it will choppy become so frustrating, i need to go down to medium setting. and i can just istall xorg xterm dwm neovim firefox and steam, no other bloatware that i never use and is always pop up on my face.
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game is more smooth on arch then on ubuntu. like Nier, i can max out all the setting on arch but on ubuntu it will choppy become so frustrating, i need to go down to medium setting. and i can just istall xorg xterm dwm neovim firefox and steam, no other bloatware that i never use and is always pop up on my face.
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JC
I think PopOs is part of why Mint is losing popularity. If someone wants a Ubuntu alternative they used to go to Mint but now it's Mint and Pop. Not to say Pop isn't good, they got people coming to them specifically because they support newest hardware the day it releases or as soon as OEM's get access.
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I think PopOs is part of why Mint is losing popularity. If someone wants a Ubuntu alternative they used to go to Mint but now it's Mint and Pop. Not to say Pop isn't good, they got people coming to them specifically because they support newest hardware the day it releases or as soon as OEM's get access.
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