Distro Hopping Sucks. I'll Never Leave You Again, Arch Linux! DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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yea i've done my own distro hopping. then i learned about the DE and realized well if i wanted to try something else just install that. but then when i tried manjaro cause i really liked how it sounded. i forgot what i did. i think i went to the themes and downloaded a theme and when i restarted my computer it wouldn't boot. something about would't screensave or something. not sure. so i went back to pop os. well i couldn't find what version or the extension i wanted for popos to make the task bar a -traditional- wasn't supported or didn't work. i looked and i found budgie and it looked perfect the only problem i found was that it runs heavy probably heavier then gnome (ubuntu budgie) so i just kinda went to mint cinnamon 20.2 edge cause it had the newer kernel.
i'd like to try or learn arch based. but i kinda like the ubuntu/deb based distros cause sudo apt for me is easier to remember and im not smart when it comes to hardware so not knowing much i'd hate to try a arch or arch based again cause i wouldn't know how to fix it. and i got a 3yr old laptop
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yea i've done my own distro hopping. then i learned about the DE and realized well if i wanted to try something else just install that. but then when i tried manjaro cause i really liked how it sounded. i forgot what i did. i think i went to the themes and downloaded a theme and when i restarted my computer it wouldn't boot. something about would't screensave or something. not sure. so i went back to pop os. well i couldn't find what version or the extension i wanted for popos to make the task bar a -traditional- wasn't supported or didn't work. i looked and i found budgie and it looked perfect the only problem i found was that it runs heavy probably heavier then gnome (ubuntu budgie) so i just kinda went to mint cinnamon 20.2 edge cause it had the newer kernel.
i'd like to try or learn arch based. but i kinda like the ubuntu/deb based distros cause sudo apt for me is easier to remember and im not smart when it comes to hardware so not knowing much i'd hate to try a arch or arch based again cause i wouldn't know how to fix it. and i got a 3yr old laptop
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AlphaCodexx197
I've used Ubuntu for the longest time when I was a teen and I always felt like there was something missing from it so I gave up on Ubuntu and went back to Windows for a while up until recently when I used a laptop at work with fedora on it and I instantly felt right at home. So I sourced my own laptop, installed Fedora, and everything broke or felt super sluggish. I then stumbled upon Garuda Linux and everything just seemed to work and I had a lot more control over the system and I instantly fell in love with pacman and the AUR so much that I'm tempted to do a vanilla arch install on my desktop gaming PC. I've already practiced the install in a VM and have done is successfully twice now. Only thing holding me back is that a few games that I play only work on windows right now (well one has/will be addressed when they flip the switch and allow the anticheat to work in proton)...
Oh and BTW I RUN ARCH
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I've used Ubuntu for the longest time when I was a teen and I always felt like there was something missing from it so I gave up on Ubuntu and went back to Windows for a while up until recently when I used a laptop at work with fedora on it and I instantly felt right at home. So I sourced my own laptop, installed Fedora, and everything broke or felt super sluggish. I then stumbled upon Garuda Linux and everything just seemed to work and I had a lot more control over the system and I instantly fell in love with pacman and the AUR so much that I'm tempted to do a vanilla arch install on my desktop gaming PC. I've already practiced the install in a VM and have done is successfully twice now. Only thing holding me back is that a few games that I play only work on windows right now (well one has/will be addressed when they flip the switch and allow the anticheat to work in proton)...
Oh and BTW I RUN ARCH
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Bahaa
I installed arch for the first time a few days ago and had to spend a day trying to configure grub and some drivers and services correctly (luckly I knew how to manually boot using the grub cli thanks to years of Windows screwing with my dualboot systems).. I don't understand what really went wrong yet but after a few cycles of reinstalling and reconfiguring grub it finally worked. My point is I've used Debian based distros for the last 10 years and they always just work perfectly out of the box and while Arch installation was kinda scary for me and alot of stuff was misconfigured (probably to my fault) I'm so glad I took the time to skim through the wiki and get everything working! Maybe Gentoo to you was what Arch was to me and maybe you could've liked using it if you took the time to fix the installation though I doubt anything can be better than Arch (or even Ubuntu for that matter)
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I installed arch for the first time a few days ago and had to spend a day trying to configure grub and some drivers and services correctly (luckly I knew how to manually boot using the grub cli thanks to years of Windows screwing with my dualboot systems).. I don't understand what really went wrong yet but after a few cycles of reinstalling and reconfiguring grub it finally worked. My point is I've used Debian based distros for the last 10 years and they always just work perfectly out of the box and while Arch installation was kinda scary for me and alot of stuff was misconfigured (probably to my fault) I'm so glad I took the time to skim through the wiki and get everything working! Maybe Gentoo to you was what Arch was to me and maybe you could've liked using it if you took the time to fix the installation though I doubt anything can be better than Arch (or even Ubuntu for that matter)
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zBrain0
I know this video is old at this point, but what I can say after using Linux for years is that switching to any distro that you're not used to will initially be difficult in some way. It just depends on if you like it enough to keep working with it. For example in my experience manjaro was a horrible disaster. I had it on a laptop for about 6 months and eventually I just couldn't update it anymore. The package manager had all kinds of signature issues with packages and after spending several hours trying to Google my way out of the mess I just gave up.
I know several people that swear by arch-based systems but my experience with them has been wholly negative.
Jumping between several distros in a 24-hour period is just a recipe for frustration because they all do things slightly differently.
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I know this video is old at this point, but what I can say after using Linux for years is that switching to any distro that you're not used to will initially be difficult in some way. It just depends on if you like it enough to keep working with it. For example in my experience manjaro was a horrible disaster. I had it on a laptop for about 6 months and eventually I just couldn't update it anymore. The package manager had all kinds of signature issues with packages and after spending several hours trying to Google my way out of the mess I just gave up.
I know several people that swear by arch-based systems but my experience with them has been wholly negative.
Jumping between several distros in a 24-hour period is just a recipe for frustration because they all do things slightly differently.
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Panacea
Just watched your new video -You Don't Own Your Movies, Music, Books, Games...- and saw this one in the playback suggestions again. Had to watch it and I think, because of this, my most recent distro hop from Arco to Arch was because of this video. For real! I love Debian but it's too far behind the times with it's stable branch. I thought about Gentoo briefly but my system is pretty old and I didn't want to put too much stress on the CPU. So I went with Arch and I'm happy with my decision. But once again, I remembered this video from 6 months ago and when you originally posted it DT. I'm a HUGE proponent for Linux Mint for new users but I think it would take too much for me to get it to where I would enjoy using it like I do Arch. You just can't beat Arch Linux. LONG LIVE ARCH!!!
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Just watched your new video -You Don't Own Your Movies, Music, Books, Games...- and saw this one in the playback suggestions again. Had to watch it and I think, because of this, my most recent distro hop from Arco to Arch was because of this video. For real! I love Debian but it's too far behind the times with it's stable branch. I thought about Gentoo briefly but my system is pretty old and I didn't want to put too much stress on the CPU. So I went with Arch and I'm happy with my decision. But once again, I remembered this video from 6 months ago and when you originally posted it DT. I'm a HUGE proponent for Linux Mint for new users but I think it would take too much for me to get it to where I would enjoy using it like I do Arch. You just can't beat Arch Linux. LONG LIVE ARCH!!!
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Kip
dude, i just wanna say, next time i'm in south Alabama visiting friends and family, would be cool if you came over and we hung out and drank beers. i'd love to get first hand drinking and Linux experience....lol. i didn't see your beer label, but i wonder if it was Abita TurboDog?
also, since i respect you opinion, is there any chance you'll make a review of Pop!_OS, Manjaro, and another distro [possibly Mint, ZorinOS, or ElementaryOS] as a yearly -install/review- or -X vs Y vs Z- video? i know most of those are --\-00-3 friendly- distros, but they can be []D [] []\/[] []D too.....
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dude, i just wanna say, next time i'm in south Alabama visiting friends and family, would be cool if you came over and we hung out and drank beers. i'd love to get first hand drinking and Linux experience....lol. i didn't see your beer label, but i wonder if it was Abita TurboDog?
also, since i respect you opinion, is there any chance you'll make a review of Pop!_OS, Manjaro, and another distro [possibly Mint, ZorinOS, or ElementaryOS] as a yearly -install/review- or -X vs Y vs Z- video? i know most of those are --\-00-3 friendly- distros, but they can be []D [] []\/[] []D too.....
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BoulderBro999
naw man, GENTOO ROCKS! it's kind of silly to use a Gentoo-derived OS in my opinion though. it's for a very specific kind of person, and it caters to that audience well. the philosophy of Gentoo will is usually be inherently violated by any attempt to fork it, causing the entire system to be fruitless. I'd never say Gentoo is bad, or inferior to Debian/Arch, it's just not the same and doesn't deserve the same kind of treatment. it's not for everyone, and that's a good thing. same with OpenBSD to an extent.
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naw man, GENTOO ROCKS! it's kind of silly to use a Gentoo-derived OS in my opinion though. it's for a very specific kind of person, and it caters to that audience well. the philosophy of Gentoo will is usually be inherently violated by any attempt to fork it, causing the entire system to be fruitless. I'd never say Gentoo is bad, or inferior to Debian/Arch, it's just not the same and doesn't deserve the same kind of treatment. it's not for everyone, and that's a good thing. same with OpenBSD to an extent.
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SailBatten
(around 2:43) --- Done properly, install mechanisms are incredibly complicated state machines. The simpler it appears in User space, the more complicated it -HAS- to be under the hood. It is -NOT- something I would trust to the average software engineer. As in _ever._ You need verifiability fallbacks at every step along the way.
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(around 2:43) --- Done properly, install mechanisms are incredibly complicated state machines. The simpler it appears in User space, the more complicated it -HAS- to be under the hood. It is -NOT- something I would trust to the average software engineer. As in _ever._ You need verifiability fallbacks at every step along the way.
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manitoublack
Curious why you didn't give the other 2 big hitters a go. Fedora and OpenSUSE.
That said I still agree with your conclusion. -Linux Still kind of Sucks.-
I've been trying to get my setup working on any linux distro. and not 1 will correctly work with my tripe 4k monitor setup. So Windows it is.
Jordan
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Curious why you didn't give the other 2 big hitters a go. Fedora and OpenSUSE.
That said I still agree with your conclusion. -Linux Still kind of Sucks.-
I've been trying to get my setup working on any linux distro. and not 1 will correctly work with my tripe 4k monitor setup. So Windows it is.
Jordan
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low
Decided to try and hop from just standard Arch to other Arch-based distros, ended up on normal Arch again lmao.
It's surprising how much differs from Arch--based- distros, to just normal Arch, both good (but in this case; bad).
tl;dr: stick to what you're comfortable with.
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Decided to try and hop from just standard Arch to other Arch-based distros, ended up on normal Arch again lmao.
It's surprising how much differs from Arch--based- distros, to just normal Arch, both good (but in this case; bad).
tl;dr: stick to what you're comfortable with.
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