GeForce Now released, Z490 & B550 rumors, Q&A - The Full Nerd ep. 124
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Date: 2022-03-15
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TheDarthTux
Honestly, I prefer Stadia despite all the excitement about Geforce Now.
In terms of positives
Stadia = (1) no noticable latency, (2) no playing time caps, (3) -4K/60 HDR 5. 1, (4) $10/month with 1 or 2 free games (5) Stream Connect for co-op gameplay (6) Red Dead Redemption 2 Online works (7) Crowd Play and Youtube streaming integration coming (8) games using the Vulkan API (the modern API means better GPU utilization and better frame rates and potential for all the ray tracing and ML integration just like with DX12) (9) no downloading of anything (10) Stadia Base (Stadia's free version limited to 1080p/60) is still to be released
Geforce Now = (1) $5/month but for limited time of 12 months only (2) ray tracing (3) access to some of the steam library (4) Geforce Now games library (5) no noticeable latency but only achieved by rationing playing sessions and limiting resolutions to 1080p/60 (so we are either back to Soviet era of rationing or coin arcades)
Geforce Now strikes me as being more comparable to Shadow. tech, however having used Shadow every day for hours over a month, I would rather pay the higher price for Shadow than pay for Geforce Now. If Stadia was rushed out and a beta testing or early access product, then Geforece Now is in alpha development
Cloud gaming for me so far is a two horse affair! Stadia is hands down in pole position followed by Shadow. tech and nothing else thus far is worth even entertaining. Only thing Stadia lacks right now are games, but they are coming.
Pricing wise, I am paying $10/month for 4K HDR 5. 1, Crowd Play (eventually, and Stream Connect on Stadia, There is no way I am paying $5/month for 1080p/60 on Geforce Now. In fact if you do pixels per dollar, Stadia offers 829, 440 pixels per dollar while Geforce Now only offers 414, 720 per dollar (before the price raise after 12 months. For Geforce now to be equal to Stadia, Geforce Now would need to cost no more than $2. 50/month
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Honestly, I prefer Stadia despite all the excitement about Geforce Now.
In terms of positives
Stadia = (1) no noticable latency, (2) no playing time caps, (3) -4K/60 HDR 5. 1, (4) $10/month with 1 or 2 free games (5) Stream Connect for co-op gameplay (6) Red Dead Redemption 2 Online works (7) Crowd Play and Youtube streaming integration coming (8) games using the Vulkan API (the modern API means better GPU utilization and better frame rates and potential for all the ray tracing and ML integration just like with DX12) (9) no downloading of anything (10) Stadia Base (Stadia's free version limited to 1080p/60) is still to be released
Geforce Now = (1) $5/month but for limited time of 12 months only (2) ray tracing (3) access to some of the steam library (4) Geforce Now games library (5) no noticeable latency but only achieved by rationing playing sessions and limiting resolutions to 1080p/60 (so we are either back to Soviet era of rationing or coin arcades)
Geforce Now strikes me as being more comparable to Shadow. tech, however having used Shadow every day for hours over a month, I would rather pay the higher price for Shadow than pay for Geforce Now. If Stadia was rushed out and a beta testing or early access product, then Geforece Now is in alpha development
Cloud gaming for me so far is a two horse affair! Stadia is hands down in pole position followed by Shadow. tech and nothing else thus far is worth even entertaining. Only thing Stadia lacks right now are games, but they are coming.
Pricing wise, I am paying $10/month for 4K HDR 5. 1, Crowd Play (eventually, and Stream Connect on Stadia, There is no way I am paying $5/month for 1080p/60 on Geforce Now. In fact if you do pixels per dollar, Stadia offers 829, 440 pixels per dollar while Geforce Now only offers 414, 720 per dollar (before the price raise after 12 months. For Geforce now to be equal to Stadia, Geforce Now would need to cost no more than $2. 50/month
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Bert
I have 3 to 15 power-fails/week. The last one occurred today after an uptime of 5 days, but today I had 3 power-fails of max 5 minutes again. Power-fails longer then an hour occur 4 to 8 times/year.
In the past I had an UPS for the house and too often the batteries are dead and I still lost motherboards and power-supplies. Since 2012 I have a much cheaper 1200W Avtek surge-protector feeding my 2-3 computers. I never lost equipment anymore.
Another effect of those power-fails is file-corruption. I collected over 100 corrupted music files during the last 12 years using NTFS (Windows) or EXT4 (Linux. Since 2018 I use Ubuntu and ZFS and ZFS with its transactional Copy On Write stopped the file corruption.
So I recommend a good Surge Protector and ZFS: )
Don't believe the BS about huge memory requirements of ZFS. It is true for servers with hundreds of users, but it is BS for a one person desktops. I use it on:
- A backup-server with a 2003 Pentium 4 Ht (3. 0GHz) with 1. 25GB DDR and 1. 1TB of disks (2 x IDE and 2 x SATA-1; 2. 5-)
- A 2008 HP dc5850 desktop with Phenom II X4 B97 (4 x 3. 2GHz, 8GB DDR2 and 128GB SSD and one HDD.
- A Ryzen 3 2200G with 16GB DDR4 and a nvme-SSD (512GB, 3400/2300MB/s, 1TB + 500GB HDDs.
ReFS of Microsoft tried to implement the same ideas, but I think it is slowly allowed to die by Microsoft. It is not supported anymore for Windows 8 nor 10, except for Windows 10 PRO and Enterprise Editions, since the Fall Creator Edition of 2017.
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I have 3 to 15 power-fails/week. The last one occurred today after an uptime of 5 days, but today I had 3 power-fails of max 5 minutes again. Power-fails longer then an hour occur 4 to 8 times/year.
In the past I had an UPS for the house and too often the batteries are dead and I still lost motherboards and power-supplies. Since 2012 I have a much cheaper 1200W Avtek surge-protector feeding my 2-3 computers. I never lost equipment anymore.
Another effect of those power-fails is file-corruption. I collected over 100 corrupted music files during the last 12 years using NTFS (Windows) or EXT4 (Linux. Since 2018 I use Ubuntu and ZFS and ZFS with its transactional Copy On Write stopped the file corruption.
So I recommend a good Surge Protector and ZFS: )
Don't believe the BS about huge memory requirements of ZFS. It is true for servers with hundreds of users, but it is BS for a one person desktops. I use it on:
- A backup-server with a 2003 Pentium 4 Ht (3. 0GHz) with 1. 25GB DDR and 1. 1TB of disks (2 x IDE and 2 x SATA-1; 2. 5-)
- A 2008 HP dc5850 desktop with Phenom II X4 B97 (4 x 3. 2GHz, 8GB DDR2 and 128GB SSD and one HDD.
- A Ryzen 3 2200G with 16GB DDR4 and a nvme-SSD (512GB, 3400/2300MB/s, 1TB + 500GB HDDs.
ReFS of Microsoft tried to implement the same ideas, but I think it is slowly allowed to die by Microsoft. It is not supported anymore for Windows 8 nor 10, except for Windows 10 PRO and Enterprise Editions, since the Fall Creator Edition of 2017.
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CantankerousDave
To that viewer with the multiple dead GPUs -- replace your power supply with a reputable brand and put a UPS between the computer and the wall outlet. Either the computer's PSU is garbage, or your house's wiring is dodgy and is full of dips and surges. A new PSU will provide stable power inside the case, and a UPS will provide the computer itself with stable power.
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To that viewer with the multiple dead GPUs -- replace your power supply with a reputable brand and put a UPS between the computer and the wall outlet. Either the computer's PSU is garbage, or your house's wiring is dodgy and is full of dips and surges. A new PSU will provide stable power inside the case, and a UPS will provide the computer itself with stable power.
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Gary
Off topic but no more Disney for me. I'm canceling my sub because Disney fined a Calif. school $250 for showing The Lion King at the school for a fundraiser for their kids without buying a usage rights license. Anything for the bottom line $$$. I was wondering how Disney knew.
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Off topic but no more Disney for me. I'm canceling my sub because Disney fined a Calif. school $250 for showing The Lion King at the school for a fundraiser for their kids without buying a usage rights license. Anything for the bottom line $$$. I was wondering how Disney knew.
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freak777power
There is no selling point about Z490. Get x570 and Nvidia 3xxx series card to use that PCIe 4. If Z490 brought PCIe 4 it would make sense, otherwise just pile of shit. I would not be surprised if 10/20 is $600. trust me on this one. they are arrogant pricks.
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There is no selling point about Z490. Get x570 and Nvidia 3xxx series card to use that PCIe 4. If Z490 brought PCIe 4 it would make sense, otherwise just pile of shit. I would not be surprised if 10/20 is $600. trust me on this one. they are arrogant pricks.
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Evan
People who have a RTX card are tube amp vinyl snobs. This is Spotify and Neil Young is the only one who give a shart. Gaming laptops are dead, gaming phones are dead, consoles are dead. If Apple ever makes a legit gaming computer it will be at least 4000 bucks.
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People who have a RTX card are tube amp vinyl snobs. This is Spotify and Neil Young is the only one who give a shart. Gaming laptops are dead, gaming phones are dead, consoles are dead. If Apple ever makes a legit gaming computer it will be at least 4000 bucks.
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drunkredninja
gordon full of smh again. you can have gamepass on now. gamepass supplies you with games you don't have and now supports games you have. obviously game streaming is useful if you dont meet the hardware requirements.
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gordon full of smh again. you can have gamepass on now. gamepass supplies you with games you don't have and now supports games you have. obviously game streaming is useful if you dont meet the hardware requirements.
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Eric
I picked up a CyberPower OR1500PFCRT2U PFC Sinewave UPS System, 1500VA/1050W, 8 Outlets, AVR, 2U Rack/Tower 5 years ago and it is extremely helpful as Reno is pretty windy so a quarter second outages are pretty common.
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I picked up a CyberPower OR1500PFCRT2U PFC Sinewave UPS System, 1500VA/1050W, 8 Outlets, AVR, 2U Rack/Tower 5 years ago and it is extremely helpful as Reno is pretty windy so a quarter second outages are pretty common.
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Sikandar
Madam Butterfly is the easiest to cheese now that everyone has played the game. lol. Loved Sekiro though. Awesome game. Some truly hard bosses where cheesing isn't easy either. takes practice to cheese. lol
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Madam Butterfly is the easiest to cheese now that everyone has played the game. lol. Loved Sekiro though. Awesome game. Some truly hard bosses where cheesing isn't easy either. takes practice to cheese. lol
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Ross
Up to last week I still had pcie x2 and it didn't hold my card back I'm still on 1070 though but with pcie 3 being twice the bandwidth how powerful dose card need to be to saturate the pcie3 x16
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Up to last week I still had pcie x2 and it didn't hold my card back I'm still on 1070 though but with pcie 3 being twice the bandwidth how powerful dose card need to be to saturate the pcie3 x16
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