Zen 3 revealed, Radeon RX 6000 teased - The Full Nerd special
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Date: 2022-03-15
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BIGMADDAD
The bump in cost of the CPUs isn't as bad as Intel has done to consumers in the past. I think the cooler only with the lower TDP chips, is a bit of a bummer. When I invest in a much faster CPU, I might like to try a little overclocking and I would never use the stock cooler for that. The $50 cost bump is also less of an issue because of the incredible job AMD has done with compatibility. I can drop the new chip into my motherboard and that saves me way more than $50. Intel has never cared about the consumer burden with chipset changes or RAM incompatibility forcing the purchase of another motherboard which adds $250+ to upgrade a new CPU upgrade. Sorry for the long message. This is my first time here and I love your format so I will be watching all the time for future stuff. Please keep up the awesome work.
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The bump in cost of the CPUs isn't as bad as Intel has done to consumers in the past. I think the cooler only with the lower TDP chips, is a bit of a bummer. When I invest in a much faster CPU, I might like to try a little overclocking and I would never use the stock cooler for that. The $50 cost bump is also less of an issue because of the incredible job AMD has done with compatibility. I can drop the new chip into my motherboard and that saves me way more than $50. Intel has never cared about the consumer burden with chipset changes or RAM incompatibility forcing the purchase of another motherboard which adds $250+ to upgrade a new CPU upgrade. Sorry for the long message. This is my first time here and I love your format so I will be watching all the time for future stuff. Please keep up the awesome work.
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MarcasswellbMD
I think if you still have a 3700X or better you are going to be totally good on 4K gaming for the next 4 years. I'm way more interested in Big Navi. I need a true 4K GPU and don't want to deal with Nvidia anymore for a while. But I still think its great to see AMD finally beat Intel on that single thread, although I think there will be the argument that when intel is running at 5. 3 overclocked that it's still faster in some games. I think AMD already had the crown with Zen 2 maybe not in gaming but in overall performance definitely.
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I think if you still have a 3700X or better you are going to be totally good on 4K gaming for the next 4 years. I'm way more interested in Big Navi. I need a true 4K GPU and don't want to deal with Nvidia anymore for a while. But I still think its great to see AMD finally beat Intel on that single thread, although I think there will be the argument that when intel is running at 5. 3 overclocked that it's still faster in some games. I think AMD already had the crown with Zen 2 maybe not in gaming but in overall performance definitely.
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liaminwales
ill be relay interested in how the 'XT' parts compare to the new parts, the advertised TDP/ghz are super close.
3800XT v 5800X = 105TDP & 4. 7ghz max boost (no box cooler to) so from just a glance it's going to be an interesting comparison.
and i relay hope like intel did they do something to help with thermal transfer, as we move to smaller nodes heat density is increasing so thermal transfer starts to relay become important.
if they dont do anything soon to help thermal transfer 5nm may kill air coolers.
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ill be relay interested in how the 'XT' parts compare to the new parts, the advertised TDP/ghz are super close.
3800XT v 5800X = 105TDP & 4. 7ghz max boost (no box cooler to) so from just a glance it's going to be an interesting comparison.
and i relay hope like intel did they do something to help with thermal transfer, as we move to smaller nodes heat density is increasing so thermal transfer starts to relay become important.
if they dont do anything soon to help thermal transfer 5nm may kill air coolers.
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digitalsanpedro
Still disappointed about the price. For me to get eight core it'll cost more than an Xbox or a PS5 (my cheapest option is to buy from U. S. Amazon, and ship it overseas. I wish they would've came out with a replacement for the 3700x. I'll probably stick with my 2700x, and hope it's enough for 1440p and 4k gaming with a top tier graphics card.
By the way, your price chart is missing a lot of Zen 2 options which change the price/performance metric. Ryzen 3600, 3700x, and Intel 10850k and likewise.
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Still disappointed about the price. For me to get eight core it'll cost more than an Xbox or a PS5 (my cheapest option is to buy from U. S. Amazon, and ship it overseas. I wish they would've came out with a replacement for the 3700x. I'll probably stick with my 2700x, and hope it's enough for 1440p and 4k gaming with a top tier graphics card.
By the way, your price chart is missing a lot of Zen 2 options which change the price/performance metric. Ryzen 3600, 3700x, and Intel 10850k and likewise.
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EquinoxGaming
To the chick complaining about prices. You people didn't mind paying Intel's ridiculous prices 3 years ago for a 4 core chip getting garbage performance, and now you want to complain about AMD still charging less for this chip than an i7-7700k was priced at less than 2 years ago? WT actual F? AMD is STILL giving a great price for their chips, they should have raised it $10 more imo. They deserve some extra money to put into their R&D account. they have in the scope of 3 years DEMOLISHED Intel on
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To the chick complaining about prices. You people didn't mind paying Intel's ridiculous prices 3 years ago for a 4 core chip getting garbage performance, and now you want to complain about AMD still charging less for this chip than an i7-7700k was priced at less than 2 years ago? WT actual F? AMD is STILL giving a great price for their chips, they should have raised it $10 more imo. They deserve some extra money to put into their R&D account. they have in the scope of 3 years DEMOLISHED Intel on
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dunuhn
No one cares if there's an -x- at the end or the name has a 7 in it instead of an 8. This generation a 6 core cpu went up $100/50% in price vs a $200 launch price 3600 and an 8 core cpu went up $120/26. 7% in price vs a $329 launch price 3700x. Plain and simple the -$50 price increase- narrative is marketing BS that tech coverage is inexplicably eating up and saying is reasonable. It's a lot more than a $50 increase folks.
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No one cares if there's an -x- at the end or the name has a 7 in it instead of an 8. This generation a 6 core cpu went up $100/50% in price vs a $200 launch price 3600 and an 8 core cpu went up $120/26. 7% in price vs a $329 launch price 3700x. Plain and simple the -$50 price increase- narrative is marketing BS that tech coverage is inexplicably eating up and saying is reasonable. It's a lot more than a $50 increase folks.
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T51B1
nvidia can't push back really. They are stuck with samsung 8nm and have clocked them about as high as they will go already without the power and thermals going through the roof. The only thing they could possibly do is make a higher bin of GA102 and slap some extra VRAM on it but that's cutting way into their profit margin. AMD can price the 6000 series at prices that nvidia can't compete with.
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nvidia can't push back really. They are stuck with samsung 8nm and have clocked them about as high as they will go already without the power and thermals going through the roof. The only thing they could possibly do is make a higher bin of GA102 and slap some extra VRAM on it but that's cutting way into their profit margin. AMD can price the 6000 series at prices that nvidia can't compete with.
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R.
Biggest question. does Minesweeper, Instragram und Twitter run finally smooth at 144Hz.
Otherwise. screw Ryzen 5000. I need 10GHz for my social media apps to run smoothly. The most important thing today because otherwise I could not tell everyone else that I bought crap I don't need just to impress people I don't like.
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Biggest question. does Minesweeper, Instragram und Twitter run finally smooth at 144Hz.
Otherwise. screw Ryzen 5000. I need 10GHz for my social media apps to run smoothly. The most important thing today because otherwise I could not tell everyone else that I bought crap I don't need just to impress people I don't like.
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Sicom
Ryzen 3600 is $200 (3600X is $209) and comes with a cooler. It's often on sale for $160-170. You're paying 50-80% more for -20% performance uplift and no cooler for the 5600X.
I hope AMD sticks to the trend of keeping their previous generation parts on sale. Maybe that's their value strategy moving forward.
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Ryzen 3600 is $200 (3600X is $209) and comes with a cooler. It's often on sale for $160-170. You're paying 50-80% more for -20% performance uplift and no cooler for the 5600X.
I hope AMD sticks to the trend of keeping their previous generation parts on sale. Maybe that's their value strategy moving forward.
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MarcasswellbMD
I agree with Elena on the prices, They shouldn't be charging $300 and $450 from the 5600X N the 5800X, I'd have to wait a year for price's to come down or sales. Oh, And I'm using my wraith Prizm Right now with my 2700X, Actually prefer it to the AIO I had installed prior.
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I agree with Elena on the prices, They shouldn't be charging $300 and $450 from the 5600X N the 5800X, I'd have to wait a year for price's to come down or sales. Oh, And I'm using my wraith Prizm Right now with my 2700X, Actually prefer it to the AIO I had installed prior.
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