Disney World's Private Government
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Date: 2019-09-12
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Comments and reviews: 9
James Keefe
The creation of the district and the municipalities is one of the best things that has been done in central Florida and has massively benefitted the local economy. This video has got several things wrong. First, Disney DOES pay taxes to Osceola and Orange counties, to the South Florida Water Management District, library districts, the school boards, etc. The district is in the counties, the taxes are collected by the county tax assessors and the properties are appraised by the county property appraisers. Since Disney nearly the only property owner in the District and the municipalities, and they are mainly used for the parks and the resorts, the decisions they make do not affect a large number of residents of something like a city. In many ways, it has benefited the county, since the county does gather revenue, but Disney has constructed through the District much of the infrastructure used by the parks. The economic impact on the surrounding areas has furthermore more than justified the creation of the cities and the district, it has paid off very well for Osceola County, and surrounding cities like Kissimmee where there are a large number of non-Disney hotels. The District does have autonomy over zoning and building codes. Disney implemented its own building code called EPCOT code which is a very strong building code and has lead to very solidly built and safe structures in the district.
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The creation of the district and the municipalities is one of the best things that has been done in central Florida and has massively benefitted the local economy. This video has got several things wrong. First, Disney DOES pay taxes to Osceola and Orange counties, to the South Florida Water Management District, library districts, the school boards, etc. The district is in the counties, the taxes are collected by the county tax assessors and the properties are appraised by the county property appraisers. Since Disney nearly the only property owner in the District and the municipalities, and they are mainly used for the parks and the resorts, the decisions they make do not affect a large number of residents of something like a city. In many ways, it has benefited the county, since the county does gather revenue, but Disney has constructed through the District much of the infrastructure used by the parks. The economic impact on the surrounding areas has furthermore more than justified the creation of the cities and the district, it has paid off very well for Osceola County, and surrounding cities like Kissimmee where there are a large number of non-Disney hotels. The District does have autonomy over zoning and building codes. Disney implemented its own building code called EPCOT code which is a very strong building code and has lead to very solidly built and safe structures in the district.
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I_is_katkit
As a Florida Native, I just wanted to say THANK YOU 3000 for making this video. (even though I'm seeing it about a year later) Upon moving to Los Angeles, too many times I'd get unsettled looks and glares when I'd say growing up, my view of Disney was it was The Backyard Fortress. I lived in Buenaventura Lakes which, just like Disney, was on the border of those same two counties. It never was stated as ill intention either; get on a tall enough structure and you'd be able to see the nightly fireworks show at night at Magic Kingdom (or hear the shows echo among the trees and streets if you were close to any of them driving by of on foot, on LBV property (if you worked in any of the corresponding hotels) you'd find all the back routes that were traffic free behind and under Disney, or know of any changes to any of the parks and find ways to get passes before anyone else. But it was NEVER to be baffled about that it was a FORTRESS of a property to have it's own police force, traffic system, buses, or even it's own zipcode. As much as Walt Disney wanted E. P. C. O. T to be it's own sort of civilization, Lake Burna Vista was EXACTLY that.
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As a Florida Native, I just wanted to say THANK YOU 3000 for making this video. (even though I'm seeing it about a year later) Upon moving to Los Angeles, too many times I'd get unsettled looks and glares when I'd say growing up, my view of Disney was it was The Backyard Fortress. I lived in Buenaventura Lakes which, just like Disney, was on the border of those same two counties. It never was stated as ill intention either; get on a tall enough structure and you'd be able to see the nightly fireworks show at night at Magic Kingdom (or hear the shows echo among the trees and streets if you were close to any of them driving by of on foot, on LBV property (if you worked in any of the corresponding hotels) you'd find all the back routes that were traffic free behind and under Disney, or know of any changes to any of the parks and find ways to get passes before anyone else. But it was NEVER to be baffled about that it was a FORTRESS of a property to have it's own police force, traffic system, buses, or even it's own zipcode. As much as Walt Disney wanted E. P. C. O. T to be it's own sort of civilization, Lake Burna Vista was EXACTLY that.
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Vobe S
I can't even have a family cemetery on my property we haven't been free for a long time we need to report to the government for everything, people think that's normal and fine but it's not. And of course Disney can do what he wants if you think a company that rapidly engulfs everything around it including the media doesn't have more special plans then you are exactly the product they've been trying to create. They put you in a little bubble, you think you need to live life an exact certain way and you think you're free, because you're free to go on vacation at Disney and have a good time. But then you go home and you go back to your routine, sleep, eat crap food because you were never taught any better in school, watch crap television to keep you from learning any better, go to crap job like it's your only option in life, raise your kids to be the same. And instead of being free and having a bigger idea for life you just constantly work towards a week of reward, go to the beach, go to Disney. I've been to Disney it is really well thought out, right down to all the free mason symbolism. Club 33 anyone?
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I can't even have a family cemetery on my property we haven't been free for a long time we need to report to the government for everything, people think that's normal and fine but it's not. And of course Disney can do what he wants if you think a company that rapidly engulfs everything around it including the media doesn't have more special plans then you are exactly the product they've been trying to create. They put you in a little bubble, you think you need to live life an exact certain way and you think you're free, because you're free to go on vacation at Disney and have a good time. But then you go home and you go back to your routine, sleep, eat crap food because you were never taught any better in school, watch crap television to keep you from learning any better, go to crap job like it's your only option in life, raise your kids to be the same. And instead of being free and having a bigger idea for life you just constantly work towards a week of reward, go to the beach, go to Disney. I've been to Disney it is really well thought out, right down to all the free mason symbolism. Club 33 anyone?
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Emil Sørensen
Honestly, I think it's kind of sickening to have a corporation exert so much power. They're not democratic. Or republican, or whatever. They're a company owned by foreigners running a city in your country. It's similar to what Amazon and a lot of industries want, or have. And they're either gonna make the place great - leading you to wonder why the hell your government cares more about the multinational company than you, its citizens - or they're gonna make the place a crappy place to live or work, in which case your government is letting you suffer on behalf of the company town. Governments must be democratic, uncorrupt, and they must be integrated into the public sector. No matter who the hell wants to buy and own their own government somewhere.
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Honestly, I think it's kind of sickening to have a corporation exert so much power. They're not democratic. Or republican, or whatever. They're a company owned by foreigners running a city in your country. It's similar to what Amazon and a lot of industries want, or have. And they're either gonna make the place great - leading you to wonder why the hell your government cares more about the multinational company than you, its citizens - or they're gonna make the place a crappy place to live or work, in which case your government is letting you suffer on behalf of the company town. Governments must be democratic, uncorrupt, and they must be integrated into the public sector. No matter who the hell wants to buy and own their own government somewhere.
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lawlet91
as someone that lives in the area in question, Disney DOES pay taxes and is considered Orange county land only, none of the land falls in Osceola County funnily enough, with how tight our police forces are here the county would refuse police services to Disney if they didnt pay taxes to cover the clear strain having an extensive number of officers on property all day requires. Disney does have special concessions given to them, as well as right to deny the state from building any new transport systems through their land (thus why we STILL dont have the high speed rail to miami) but overall are governed by Orange County as a whole.
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as someone that lives in the area in question, Disney DOES pay taxes and is considered Orange county land only, none of the land falls in Osceola County funnily enough, with how tight our police forces are here the county would refuse police services to Disney if they didnt pay taxes to cover the clear strain having an extensive number of officers on property all day requires. Disney does have special concessions given to them, as well as right to deny the state from building any new transport systems through their land (thus why we STILL dont have the high speed rail to miami) but overall are governed by Orange County as a whole.
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Dr Demento
Here's how Disney actually does police: None of the ''Security Host(es)s'' (guards) are not cops as we know them. They _can_ issue genuine traffic tickets (speeding, running stop signs, ect) but otherwise don't have police powers. They _can_ use licenced armed security (there are some, but they don't need many) and can restrain (handcuff) and detain (no, there's no ''Disney jail'') then call the Orange County Sheriff to pick up the ''arrested'' guest. Who, if necessary, will do the actual arrest and take to the Orange County (Orlando) jail. There have been several lawsuits over what Disney can and can't do police-wise.
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Here's how Disney actually does police: None of the ''Security Host(es)s'' (guards) are not cops as we know them. They _can_ issue genuine traffic tickets (speeding, running stop signs, ect) but otherwise don't have police powers. They _can_ use licenced armed security (there are some, but they don't need many) and can restrain (handcuff) and detain (no, there's no ''Disney jail'') then call the Orange County Sheriff to pick up the ''arrested'' guest. Who, if necessary, will do the actual arrest and take to the Orange County (Orlando) jail. There have been several lawsuits over what Disney can and can't do police-wise.
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kilroy1976
It has its drawbacks, but this is probably essential. When I worked for the state construction board, the guy that built and maintained Disney's water parks and resort pools needed a state pool contractor's license for whatever reason, probably to do work on the outskirts of Disney. He had trouble, even though everyone knew that he had been a world-class pool builder for 40 years. His experience didn't meet the legal requirements that are set up for Joe the Brand New Pool Contractor. He got the license, but it was probably harder for him than for some regular 20 year old.
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It has its drawbacks, but this is probably essential. When I worked for the state construction board, the guy that built and maintained Disney's water parks and resort pools needed a state pool contractor's license for whatever reason, probably to do work on the outskirts of Disney. He had trouble, even though everyone knew that he had been a world-class pool builder for 40 years. His experience didn't meet the legal requirements that are set up for Joe the Brand New Pool Contractor. He got the license, but it was probably harder for him than for some regular 20 year old.
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metropod
One thing left off about the map, the name change actually involved basically a near complete land flip, with the majority of the resort properties (including all four parks) now in Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista being the small section around Disney Springs (aka. well about fifteen other names over the years, Typhoon Lagoon and the Port Orleans, Old Key West and Saratoga springs resorts.
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One thing left off about the map, the name change actually involved basically a near complete land flip, with the majority of the resort properties (including all four parks) now in Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista being the small section around Disney Springs (aka. well about fifteen other names over the years, Typhoon Lagoon and the Port Orleans, Old Key West and Saratoga springs resorts.
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Capt777harris
Up until last August I had no real animosity for Disney, but a DP down in LA, working for Disney, tried to get me arrested by trying to get me to sleep in my car overnight, all so Disney could claim that they had the son of a former VIP working on their films. It would have also destroyed my writing aspirations, and as of now, I despise this company with my heart.
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Up until last August I had no real animosity for Disney, but a DP down in LA, working for Disney, tried to get me arrested by trying to get me to sleep in my car overnight, all so Disney could claim that they had the son of a former VIP working on their films. It would have also destroyed my writing aspirations, and as of now, I despise this company with my heart.
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