Camping Cancelled - Had to call 999
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Date: 2024-09-18
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musingwithreba9667
Thank you Mike for calling this in (I think a lot of people probably wouldn't even have noticed) And for recording it and posting it. It is so important for people to see how fires can spread underground like that!
I called in a fire in a city park once during lockdowns. One, it's not legal to have a campfire in a city park, and two, they just left it burning when they left the park! Didn't even bother to give it a cursory dousing, and it was sitting right next to a river It was slowly spreading and I didn't want the entire park to catch.
I have also seen people having fires and roasting hot dogs there (exact same spot) with their children! And said to them it is not legal to have fires in a city park, and their reply was we're being responsible umm! So of course I called the local constabulary Yeah. responsibe Teaching your children to build fires, and that laws don't matter. Very responsible
Thanks again Mike. I think your video could easily be used by every forestry service in the world as education on how to NOT behave in the woods!
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Thank you Mike for calling this in (I think a lot of people probably wouldn't even have noticed) And for recording it and posting it. It is so important for people to see how fires can spread underground like that!
I called in a fire in a city park once during lockdowns. One, it's not legal to have a campfire in a city park, and two, they just left it burning when they left the park! Didn't even bother to give it a cursory dousing, and it was sitting right next to a river It was slowly spreading and I didn't want the entire park to catch.
I have also seen people having fires and roasting hot dogs there (exact same spot) with their children! And said to them it is not legal to have fires in a city park, and their reply was we're being responsible umm! So of course I called the local constabulary Yeah. responsibe Teaching your children to build fires, and that laws don't matter. Very responsible
Thanks again Mike. I think your video could easily be used by every forestry service in the world as education on how to NOT behave in the woods!
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jackypearcejustme
The only good thing about this is the novel experience you've had and then passed on to us. It's like when I have a hospital visit with my asthma - it's a rubbish reason to be there, but always an experience!
However, it's lucky this was in a coniferous woodland with a wider, although more shallow rootball, as the trees have a much higher chance of not falling out of the blue after the fact. Something like an oak has a very long taproot, which is great in high winds, but not so great if a fire attacks it.
Hampshire is my home county! I grew up in the villages there and love it to this day. I had to move to Devon to be able to afford to buy a house, but Hampshire and its amazing biodiversity is still very close to my heart.
I've used what3words for years as I'm in part a professional photographer and have photographed swimruns and trail runs in fun locations for years.
I also teach foraging, and fungi identification, so I empathise with you for missing a fun day fungi hunting.
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The only good thing about this is the novel experience you've had and then passed on to us. It's like when I have a hospital visit with my asthma - it's a rubbish reason to be there, but always an experience!
However, it's lucky this was in a coniferous woodland with a wider, although more shallow rootball, as the trees have a much higher chance of not falling out of the blue after the fact. Something like an oak has a very long taproot, which is great in high winds, but not so great if a fire attacks it.
Hampshire is my home county! I grew up in the villages there and love it to this day. I had to move to Devon to be able to afford to buy a house, but Hampshire and its amazing biodiversity is still very close to my heart.
I've used what3words for years as I'm in part a professional photographer and have photographed swimruns and trail runs in fun locations for years.
I also teach foraging, and fungi identification, so I empathise with you for missing a fun day fungi hunting.
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jaykneegarner2479
Had a neighbor in the apartment complex I grew up in do the same thing burning old Christmas trees. Lit them up and failed to fully extinguish the fire.
A few days later my siblings and I were out playing in the area and saw the slight smoke coming from the ground in a massive ring. Around where she burned the trees which also happened to be right smack in the middle of a thick mulch pile! Spent a few hours out there playing fireman dousing the whole area with a sprinkler.
Never occurred to me to use kids to call the FD, we were having too much fun putting it out ourselves. We were successful and the apartment didn’t burn down!
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Had a neighbor in the apartment complex I grew up in do the same thing burning old Christmas trees. Lit them up and failed to fully extinguish the fire.
A few days later my siblings and I were out playing in the area and saw the slight smoke coming from the ground in a massive ring. Around where she burned the trees which also happened to be right smack in the middle of a thick mulch pile! Spent a few hours out there playing fireman dousing the whole area with a sprinkler.
Never occurred to me to use kids to call the FD, we were having too much fun putting it out ourselves. We were successful and the apartment didn’t burn down!
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TAOutdoors
Some questions answered:
- Firstly Wow, I did not expect the overwhelming response from this video. I was originally going to scrap it as I didn’t think people would watch it. But honestly, thank you.
- A lot of you have asked what is what3words. It’s basically an app which has a map of the world. The world is divided into 3 metre squares. Each square has a unique combination of 3 words (hence what3words. This geocode system (app) is widely used here in the U. K. it’s one of the easiest ways to share an exact location and it’s used a lot by emergency services, delivery drivers, people who go camping and outdoors a lot etc.
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Some questions answered:
- Firstly Wow, I did not expect the overwhelming response from this video. I was originally going to scrap it as I didn’t think people would watch it. But honestly, thank you.
- A lot of you have asked what is what3words. It’s basically an app which has a map of the world. The world is divided into 3 metre squares. Each square has a unique combination of 3 words (hence what3words. This geocode system (app) is widely used here in the U. K. it’s one of the easiest ways to share an exact location and it’s used a lot by emergency services, delivery drivers, people who go camping and outdoors a lot etc.
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nahkohese555
I started camping at less than a year old. I just turned 69 and still go camping regularly (real camping, not sitting in an RV watching TV. The first lesson my father taught me was the importantance of fire management. The second lesson was leave nothing behind but your footprints. People being so thoughtless just upset all of us who love and respect the forest. Don't apologize for saving your forest instead of making a camping video. Sure, it wasn't a major fire - YET! Think of it this way, had you not called it in, maybe next week, you might not have had a place left to shoot a new video.
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I started camping at less than a year old. I just turned 69 and still go camping regularly (real camping, not sitting in an RV watching TV. The first lesson my father taught me was the importantance of fire management. The second lesson was leave nothing behind but your footprints. People being so thoughtless just upset all of us who love and respect the forest. Don't apologize for saving your forest instead of making a camping video. Sure, it wasn't a major fire - YET! Think of it this way, had you not called it in, maybe next week, you might not have had a place left to shoot a new video.
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Zogg1281
When they say that the fire can go underground and come to the surface again 100's of meters away, the DO mean it! Years ago, I was doing some work for the National Trust, and they showed me where that had actually happened a couple of weeks before I was working for them. We were still doing daily walk throughs a month later to make sure everything was still cold and that there weren't any spots with smoke rising. That fire could have taken out the whole of that National Trust woodland, so listen to the advice and don't risk it. Thanks for the video, what a great learning experience
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When they say that the fire can go underground and come to the surface again 100's of meters away, the DO mean it! Years ago, I was doing some work for the National Trust, and they showed me where that had actually happened a couple of weeks before I was working for them. We were still doing daily walk throughs a month later to make sure everything was still cold and that there weren't any spots with smoke rising. That fire could have taken out the whole of that National Trust woodland, so listen to the advice and don't risk it. Thanks for the video, what a great learning experience
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NCCZERTGEAR
That fire seems to be similar to a hay bale fire, they just smolder like that for days. I'm a volunteer firefighter in Texas my first call was for round hay bales that caught and we were there for a few hours. Crazily enough last night while I was at work i could smell what smelled like a grass fire so we checked the outside cameras and found 2 maybe 3 fires, after informing our rank we watched them luckily they were controlled burns of large debris piles from land clearing and we could see trucks driving between each fire watching over them.
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That fire seems to be similar to a hay bale fire, they just smolder like that for days. I'm a volunteer firefighter in Texas my first call was for round hay bales that caught and we were there for a few hours. Crazily enough last night while I was at work i could smell what smelled like a grass fire so we checked the outside cameras and found 2 maybe 3 fires, after informing our rank we watched them luckily they were controlled burns of large debris piles from land clearing and we could see trucks driving between each fire watching over them.
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hudsonbear5038
I am a team leader in Mountain Rescue. and What three words is a damp pain. rarely gives a proper location. several times we have been sent to locations due to W3Ws thats almost 20miles away for the real location. Works well in a town or city but once you got out and about in the countryside it is a danger in some cases.
Good too see people doing the right thing instead of ignoring it. Far too many would just walk by today. Thank you for helping t look after the countryside bud.
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I am a team leader in Mountain Rescue. and What three words is a damp pain. rarely gives a proper location. several times we have been sent to locations due to W3Ws thats almost 20miles away for the real location. Works well in a town or city but once you got out and about in the countryside it is a danger in some cases.
Good too see people doing the right thing instead of ignoring it. Far too many would just walk by today. Thank you for helping t look after the countryside bud.
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dawnbiddle3157
I am so glad you were in the right place with the right knowledge. So many people don't know, and unfortunately don't care about the damage they cause in the name of A Good Time. Thank you for making the effort to look for the unusual smell and making the call. Kudos to Hants F&R. So much water needed to put it out. but at least they have the gear to check it out It's a good video - you have a record of what can happen if people mess around with fire, with a positive outcome!
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I am so glad you were in the right place with the right knowledge. So many people don't know, and unfortunately don't care about the damage they cause in the name of A Good Time. Thank you for making the effort to look for the unusual smell and making the call. Kudos to Hants F&R. So much water needed to put it out. but at least they have the gear to check it out It's a good video - you have a record of what can happen if people mess around with fire, with a positive outcome!
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taoutdoors
Thankful the right man discovered the smoldering ground. Thankful always for the Fire & Rescue (why are they always so distractingly good looking) As a former avid camper and hiker, I am appalled at the criminal neglect depicted here. As always, Mike, you have proved you are worth supporting by subscribing to. No need for apologies from you. The ones responsible for this horrible disrespect of nature and community- they should come forward and beg for forgiveness.
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Thankful the right man discovered the smoldering ground. Thankful always for the Fire & Rescue (why are they always so distractingly good looking) As a former avid camper and hiker, I am appalled at the criminal neglect depicted here. As always, Mike, you have proved you are worth supporting by subscribing to. No need for apologies from you. The ones responsible for this horrible disrespect of nature and community- they should come forward and beg for forgiveness.
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SlyFox-e1n
That burnt piece of ground will have some of the greenest grass come back next year that you will ever see in your life, it's burnt off all that dead nonsense and not only has it burnt it off but it's also added charcoal to the mix which is a amazing not fertilizer but it is really good for the soil, so no that burn spot will not be there forever no matter of fact I'd be surprised if it lasted more than a few months once the grass start coming back up
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That burnt piece of ground will have some of the greenest grass come back next year that you will ever see in your life, it's burnt off all that dead nonsense and not only has it burnt it off but it's also added charcoal to the mix which is a amazing not fertilizer but it is really good for the soil, so no that burn spot will not be there forever no matter of fact I'd be surprised if it lasted more than a few months once the grass start coming back up
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bowyerboy2009
Hey, Mike. Great video! I think you have an opportunity here. Fires in forests often provide regrowth for other species of plants and trees. Controlled burns are often used to promote this. Many species rely on fire to provide suitable habitat conditions for their seedlings. It might be interesting if you came back periodically and documented how that spot is recovering. Maybe give us an update every 3 to 6 months or so Just a suggestion.
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Hey, Mike. Great video! I think you have an opportunity here. Fires in forests often provide regrowth for other species of plants and trees. Controlled burns are often used to promote this. Many species rely on fire to provide suitable habitat conditions for their seedlings. It might be interesting if you came back periodically and documented how that spot is recovering. Maybe give us an update every 3 to 6 months or so Just a suggestion.
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MostlyRCSlovakia
When I was a boy scout, we were told to always watch out for roots of Pine and similar trees when using fire. The fire can spread thry the roots by smoldering underground. So it is crucial to really use a good amount of water when leaving the campsite or just use flat rocks as a base for the fire. I think this is exactly what has happened there. Cool video, you did a right thing, you are a great example for all of us. Thanks for that.
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When I was a boy scout, we were told to always watch out for roots of Pine and similar trees when using fire. The fire can spread thry the roots by smoldering underground. So it is crucial to really use a good amount of water when leaving the campsite or just use flat rocks as a base for the fire. I think this is exactly what has happened there. Cool video, you did a right thing, you are a great example for all of us. Thanks for that.
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vindivergilio3482
Thank you for reporting that fire before it got out of hand. In my 30 year career as both a paid and volunteer firefighter, I have seen too many small brush fires turn into huge forest fires just because nobody cared enough to report it. Some people think they are easy to fight. wrong. some of the hardest and most dangerous fires I fought were in the woods. Thank you again and be careful people when mixing forests with fires.
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Thank you for reporting that fire before it got out of hand. In my 30 year career as both a paid and volunteer firefighter, I have seen too many small brush fires turn into huge forest fires just because nobody cared enough to report it. Some people think they are easy to fight. wrong. some of the hardest and most dangerous fires I fought were in the woods. Thank you again and be careful people when mixing forests with fires.
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johncahill1587
Firstly well done for calling it in and secondly for the Fire Service for taking care of it. There are unfortunately a fair few brainless clowns whose irresponsible behaviour can lead to woodlands, peat lands and the national parks getting destroyed. This video is educational in so many ways. People will now know that it’s not going to be silly to call something like this in. Great effort all round by everyone.
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Firstly well done for calling it in and secondly for the Fire Service for taking care of it. There are unfortunately a fair few brainless clowns whose irresponsible behaviour can lead to woodlands, peat lands and the national parks getting destroyed. This video is educational in so many ways. People will now know that it’s not going to be silly to call something like this in. Great effort all round by everyone.
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karmah88
the silver lining to this is that we all got some great info and insight into this type of thing. maybe whoever had the fire will see this and realize the consequences. it seems like they were at the very least thinking somewhat responsibly and maybe some of them will grow up to enjoy camping and do it more responsibly in the future. next year that patch of ground will be nice and fertile too.
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the silver lining to this is that we all got some great info and insight into this type of thing. maybe whoever had the fire will see this and realize the consequences. it seems like they were at the very least thinking somewhat responsibly and maybe some of them will grow up to enjoy camping and do it more responsibly in the future. next year that patch of ground will be nice and fertile too.
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Anndyinthewoods
Well done calling it in and waiting to guide them to the spot.
Something similar happened to me a few years back. We were out to film a day hike and came across a ground fire. As we discovered it, fire rescue arrived in a helicopter. We were able to contain the fire until they landed and set up their pump in the river to soak the ground.
Amazing to watch them work!
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Well done calling it in and waiting to guide them to the spot.
Something similar happened to me a few years back. We were out to film a day hike and came across a ground fire. As we discovered it, fire rescue arrived in a helicopter. We were able to contain the fire until they landed and set up their pump in the river to soak the ground.
Amazing to watch them work!
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hristonaydenov6298
It's always so disheartening and infuriating to see a trash pile in the wild that. Props to the firefighters, they were excellent professionals. I wish fire rescue was a well-paid job in my country, but unfortunately it's not. The salary is barely hitting average, they're perpetually understaffed, overworked, and forced to use ancient, barely functioning equipment.
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It's always so disheartening and infuriating to see a trash pile in the wild that. Props to the firefighters, they were excellent professionals. I wish fire rescue was a well-paid job in my country, but unfortunately it's not. The salary is barely hitting average, they're perpetually understaffed, overworked, and forced to use ancient, barely functioning equipment.
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DrIngo1980
I agree with all commenters that said you did the right thing. Because you did. And you documented it for all of us to learn from. That is an amazing thing to do. So thank you, Mike, for that. And obviously thanks to the fire fighters who came along to actually fight the smeltering fire. I have high respect for the people who join fire fighter brigades. Amazing people.
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I agree with all commenters that said you did the right thing. Because you did. And you documented it for all of us to learn from. That is an amazing thing to do. So thank you, Mike, for that. And obviously thanks to the fire fighters who came along to actually fight the smeltering fire. I have high respect for the people who join fire fighter brigades. Amazing people.
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asmith7876
In the midst of a drought some years ago there was a burn ban. Because rules are never enforced in the National Forest where I camp these idiots went and built a fire which got away from them. Burned THOUSANDS of acres. Bizarrely they found a receipt which led them to security cam footage from a Walmart but they were NEVER caught and charged. People suck.
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In the midst of a drought some years ago there was a burn ban. Because rules are never enforced in the National Forest where I camp these idiots went and built a fire which got away from them. Burned THOUSANDS of acres. Bizarrely they found a receipt which led them to security cam footage from a Walmart but they were NEVER caught and charged. People suck.
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