Bushcraft - Using an Ancient Saw on Logs + Cooking on the Fire at Camp
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Date: 2019-09-10
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Returning Shadow
In America they were simply called Two-Man Saws. And wedges were used with these saws. Usually steel or iron wedges much like an axe head and sledgehammers were used to beat the wedge into the cut as the cutting progressed. These saws were only used on trees to thick for a standard handsaw. As for bringing eggs to the camp for cooking, if you ALWAYS intended to make SCRAMBLED eggs then the easiest way to transport them is to mix the eggs up at home the simply funnel them into an empty plastic water bottle when you've finished drinking the water. Or a soda bottle might be better because they are more rigid. Then when you start cooking, just pour the eggs into the pan. Again I ask, with all that fallen wood you have around you, why are your camp walls so short? About 3 feet high? If you wish to see over the walls to the outside, that's fine but you can build then up to chin level to make for better wind resistance walls. And if they are higher, you can make your raised bed sleeping area higher as well, at least 18 inches off the ground. Also, I have a suggestion for you. So many people use space blankets or such as heat reflectors in their sleeping areas in their camps. Instead of using those very thin blankets try using two layers of Aluminum foil and a staple gun. Pull the foil out in full length (across the bed area) strips, put two strips together by folding the right and left edges over and start stapling them to the bed area starting at the top and working you way down until you've covered the whole bed area. Instead of paying 15 - 25 for a single space blanket you can spend up to 13 for TWO rolls of 150 feet of heavy duty foil. That would cover a very LARGE amount of area in your camp.
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In America they were simply called Two-Man Saws. And wedges were used with these saws. Usually steel or iron wedges much like an axe head and sledgehammers were used to beat the wedge into the cut as the cutting progressed. These saws were only used on trees to thick for a standard handsaw. As for bringing eggs to the camp for cooking, if you ALWAYS intended to make SCRAMBLED eggs then the easiest way to transport them is to mix the eggs up at home the simply funnel them into an empty plastic water bottle when you've finished drinking the water. Or a soda bottle might be better because they are more rigid. Then when you start cooking, just pour the eggs into the pan. Again I ask, with all that fallen wood you have around you, why are your camp walls so short? About 3 feet high? If you wish to see over the walls to the outside, that's fine but you can build then up to chin level to make for better wind resistance walls. And if they are higher, you can make your raised bed sleeping area higher as well, at least 18 inches off the ground. Also, I have a suggestion for you. So many people use space blankets or such as heat reflectors in their sleeping areas in their camps. Instead of using those very thin blankets try using two layers of Aluminum foil and a staple gun. Pull the foil out in full length (across the bed area) strips, put two strips together by folding the right and left edges over and start stapling them to the bed area starting at the top and working you way down until you've covered the whole bed area. Instead of paying 15 - 25 for a single space blanket you can spend up to 13 for TWO rolls of 150 feet of heavy duty foil. That would cover a very LARGE amount of area in your camp.
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Jamie Minton
That is a beautiful crosscut saw. Older saws were thinner on the spine and thicker gauge at the teeth. Contemporary saws are the same thickness (gauge) from spine to the teeth. This is because todays blades are stamped, not rolled. You can find sets aka jigs for sharpening the teeth and setting the rakers. If you look down the teeth, you will notice that the alternating teeth are off set from each other. At their widest they should be equal to/or slightly wider than the width of the raker. The sets/jigs are a tremendous aid in sharpening to a constant depth and angle for the teeth. The rakers are the hardest part to sharpen and are the real work horse of the saw. The rakers act as a chisel, plowing out the material that the teeth scored. To set the rakers takes some practice and the set/jig makes this much easier. Much like the tool/jig for sharpening a chain saws and setting the rockers, the set/jig for a crosscut will help fine tune the depth of cut for the rakers. Setting the rakers is a skill and talent that has to be practiced and I am sure there are vids to guide you thru this process. Just so you have the understanding that the rakers do the work and need the most attention. When carefully and properly sharpened your beautiful saw will cut FASTER than a modern chain saw. You will know you have gotten it right when, on each pass, your raking out curls (much like a plane or a spoke shave. Happy cutting.
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That is a beautiful crosscut saw. Older saws were thinner on the spine and thicker gauge at the teeth. Contemporary saws are the same thickness (gauge) from spine to the teeth. This is because todays blades are stamped, not rolled. You can find sets aka jigs for sharpening the teeth and setting the rakers. If you look down the teeth, you will notice that the alternating teeth are off set from each other. At their widest they should be equal to/or slightly wider than the width of the raker. The sets/jigs are a tremendous aid in sharpening to a constant depth and angle for the teeth. The rakers are the hardest part to sharpen and are the real work horse of the saw. The rakers act as a chisel, plowing out the material that the teeth scored. To set the rakers takes some practice and the set/jig makes this much easier. Much like the tool/jig for sharpening a chain saws and setting the rockers, the set/jig for a crosscut will help fine tune the depth of cut for the rakers. Setting the rakers is a skill and talent that has to be practiced and I am sure there are vids to guide you thru this process. Just so you have the understanding that the rakers do the work and need the most attention. When carefully and properly sharpened your beautiful saw will cut FASTER than a modern chain saw. You will know you have gotten it right when, on each pass, your raking out curls (much like a plane or a spoke shave. Happy cutting.
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Antairus King
What you and your old man have is Priceless. Its a rarity in today's society. Congrats man this is your Life BTW I am a big fan of your Vids Ha Ha Your Loaded all the Time Love it I know its a pun. You guys figuring out and old saw is awesome. I wouldnt know. However Plastic bowls are killing it. Bring out some camp ware. Use some camping material. do some pros and cons on outdoor cookware. The Teflon Pans and Plastic is just not doing it for me. I am sure you are excited your old man is with you, and I am too, but dont forget what you built and why. No more plastic Please. Its Just strange. It kills the effect. Its too much indoor outdoor if that make sense. Sorry I dont mean to be an ass.
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What you and your old man have is Priceless. Its a rarity in today's society. Congrats man this is your Life BTW I am a big fan of your Vids Ha Ha Your Loaded all the Time Love it I know its a pun. You guys figuring out and old saw is awesome. I wouldnt know. However Plastic bowls are killing it. Bring out some camp ware. Use some camping material. do some pros and cons on outdoor cookware. The Teflon Pans and Plastic is just not doing it for me. I am sure you are excited your old man is with you, and I am too, but dont forget what you built and why. No more plastic Please. Its Just strange. It kills the effect. Its too much indoor outdoor if that make sense. Sorry I dont mean to be an ass.
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Leib33
Last time I went camping was in the late 1970s as a cheap way to attend a weekend of road racing at Summit Point Raceway in West Virginia. We bought a pizza in town and brought it to the track and ate it while it was still barely warm. In the morning we went back into town and went to our favorite diner where we had a great breakfast of eggs, hash browns, bacon, sausage, pancakes, coffee. That kept us fine until lunch where we bought some great flame grilled expensive hamburgers at the track's concession stand. Not homemade, but good eatin' anyway. Thanks for stirring up those memories. I'm sure glad I already ate dinner
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Last time I went camping was in the late 1970s as a cheap way to attend a weekend of road racing at Summit Point Raceway in West Virginia. We bought a pizza in town and brought it to the track and ate it while it was still barely warm. In the morning we went back into town and went to our favorite diner where we had a great breakfast of eggs, hash browns, bacon, sausage, pancakes, coffee. That kept us fine until lunch where we bought some great flame grilled expensive hamburgers at the track's concession stand. Not homemade, but good eatin' anyway. Thanks for stirring up those memories. I'm sure glad I already ate dinner
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Richard Pierce
The saw is sticking in the cut because the teeth need to be set. Alternating teeth are angled out slightly. In a handsaw this can be done with a one-hand tool called a saw set. In a thick bladed saw sometimes it has to be done with a punch and a hammer. When a saw has no set it cuts only the thickness of the blade so of course the blade wedges. With the right amount of set it will cut a slot or kerf 50-100% wider than the blade. More set is required for green wood; less for seasoned dry wood.
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The saw is sticking in the cut because the teeth need to be set. Alternating teeth are angled out slightly. In a handsaw this can be done with a one-hand tool called a saw set. In a thick bladed saw sometimes it has to be done with a punch and a hammer. When a saw has no set it cuts only the thickness of the blade so of course the blade wedges. With the right amount of set it will cut a slot or kerf 50-100% wider than the blade. More set is required for green wood; less for seasoned dry wood.
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cr0cket01
used one them and the thicker blades ones a lot when younger still got couple about somewhere. also it where thee saying top dog comes from a man in a pit did the down stroke and the man on top the pit did up stroke the man on top was top dog the one under neath was the under dog. seen comment saying about the teeth and way they are so no need say they pull out wood to clear the cut. you should know that it would trap saw if it bounce and one end not left to drop.
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used one them and the thicker blades ones a lot when younger still got couple about somewhere. also it where thee saying top dog comes from a man in a pit did the down stroke and the man on top the pit did up stroke the man on top was top dog the one under neath was the under dog. seen comment saying about the teeth and way they are so no need say they pull out wood to clear the cut. you should know that it would trap saw if it bounce and one end not left to drop.
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Greyman Zink
Do a single fry pan breakfast, slice your spuds up in wafer thin slices and brown them off with crumbled sausage. Drain the grease off and scramble your eggs into the eggs and sausage. The eggs act as a binder for the potatoes and meat, you can also add what you guys call streaky bacon to the mix also for a heartier flavor. All you need then is some fresh baked country style biscuits (American style) with butter and jam.
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Do a single fry pan breakfast, slice your spuds up in wafer thin slices and brown them off with crumbled sausage. Drain the grease off and scramble your eggs into the eggs and sausage. The eggs act as a binder for the potatoes and meat, you can also add what you guys call streaky bacon to the mix also for a heartier flavor. All you need then is some fresh baked country style biscuits (American style) with butter and jam.
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Scout Works
Yes as you said guys the adjacent interlocking teeth are called rakes and they do just as you said pull the debris out oh best easy quick meal. beans and biltong So easy fresh for years literally and tastes sooooo good in the morning or for lunch dinner hhhmmm tricky prob some sausages and potatoes with a few pine needles in to give a slight minty freshness yum love the vid keep it up
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Yes as you said guys the adjacent interlocking teeth are called rakes and they do just as you said pull the debris out oh best easy quick meal. beans and biltong So easy fresh for years literally and tastes sooooo good in the morning or for lunch dinner hhhmmm tricky prob some sausages and potatoes with a few pine needles in to give a slight minty freshness yum love the vid keep it up
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MaZEEZaM
Well, when I was a kid what I liked cooking most on a camp fire was full strength tomato soup straight from the tin, heated in a pot but no water added but as an adult what I like best is a nice hot chocolate on a cold morning and perhaps some English style pancakes with lemon juice and sugar on top and rolled up. Great video: D
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Well, when I was a kid what I liked cooking most on a camp fire was full strength tomato soup straight from the tin, heated in a pot but no water added but as an adult what I like best is a nice hot chocolate on a cold morning and perhaps some English style pancakes with lemon juice and sugar on top and rolled up. Great video: D
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Geoffrey Hovey
I'm in woodsmen club at my college and we handle saws all the time so I might have some knowledge I can share with you. What you have is what we call a four cutter cross saw, four cutting teeth and a set of rakers. The rakers are used to clear out the cut after the cutting teeth go through the wood. Hope this helps you
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I'm in woodsmen club at my college and we handle saws all the time so I might have some knowledge I can share with you. What you have is what we call a four cutter cross saw, four cutting teeth and a set of rakers. The rakers are used to clear out the cut after the cutting teeth go through the wood. Hope this helps you
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