Battle Of The Titans! Volkswagen ID. 4 vs Chevy Blazer EV. Which Is The Best Normal EV
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Date: 2024-08-09
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RF-it7uv
I recently dumped my leased 2021 Tesla Model Y long range for the Lexus RZ 450e, after test driving 10 other EVs, including the Chevrolet Blazer and VW ID 4. Lexus discounted the RZ heavily so it ended up being a $43, 000 car. I sincerely believe it’s the best EV you can buy today. My RZ 450e has the latest Lexus software update and I am getting 275-400 miles of range at 4. 2-5. 5 miles/kWh efficiency far better efficiency than my Model Y, especially in city driving, which given my daily driving average of 25 miles means I charge just once per week to 100% which Lexus says its fine to do.
Don’t listen to the skeptics or critics who tested pre-production or prototype RZ versions with old software, 21 inch wheels and then complained about range. But first let me explain why I dumped the Tesla. Over 30, 000 miles, the AC on the Tesla failed, then the 12V battery failed without warning, stranding me for 2 weeks (and $1700 in car rental bills) while Tesla dithered around with replacing the battery. The powered frunk where the battery is located failed to open because the Tesla factory had failed to wire it properly, so they had to rig it to open it. Then the trunk strut failed which was traced to a faulty wiring harness and Tesla cited a 2 month wait to replace, with NO loaner available. If I had bought the Model Y, instead of leasing it, and had these failures happened after 50, 000 miles warranty expired, I would have been out thousands of dollars, erasing any fuel savings. BTW, the Tesla odometer was also way off, which seemed like a gimmick/scam to inflate range.
Speaking of range, the Model Y’s efficiency was awful in city driving; with 20 inch wheels, I rarely cracked 160 miles on a full charge in stop and go traffic due to aggressive regen which meant keeping the throttle pressed to keep the heavy beast moving. In DC winters, 110 miles was the best it could do, despite having a heat pump
So I switched to the Lexus RZ 450e after test-driving the Cadillac Lyriq, Hyundai Ionia 5, Kia EV6, Ford Mach-e, Nissan Ariya, VW ID4, Chevrolet Blazer, Genesis GV60, and Toyota BZ4X and Subaru Solterra.
I chose the RZ 450e with 18 inch wheels, which with latest software update unlocks more range and efficiency, and it was the best decision ever. As I noted above, disregard the skeptics / critics who tested pre-production or early production vehicles with old software. With latest software updates, the range and efficiency of the RZ 450e is amazing. 95% of my driving is in the city (Washington DC) at speeds below 35 MPH and I average well over 4. 5 miles/kWh vs 3. 0 miles/kWh for my Model Y long range in similar conditions. On a recent drive, I got 7. 2 miles/kWh. 18 inch wheels (NOT the optional 21 inch wheels) and using regen at lowest setting is key to getting maximum efficiency because Lexus designed an adaptive automatic regen braking system that recognizes when the car needs to slow down (for curves or stopped traffic) and blends in appropriate regen and friction braking as needed to simulate a true one pedal driving experience. So unlike Tesla which slows down immediately and aggressively the minute you lift off the throttle, Lexus lets you coast, which is especially fun when going downhill because the automatic reg braking slows you down as you get too close to vehicles in front!
The RZ hits 0-60 in 4. 6 seconds. Its ride quality, powertrain refinement, quietness all blow the Tesla Model Y away. It glides silently over bumps and potholes like a Mercedes S Class /EQE/EQS or a Rolls Royce, while my Model Y crashed over them like it had no shock absorbers. The RZ has a light steering which makes navigating around potholes a breeze (the steering tightens up noticeably when switched into Sport mode.
Unlike the Model Y, the RZ has TWO screens, one right in front of the driver and another large one in the center that supports wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto (with quick Home Screen short cut to access the main Lexus menu, so that’s another huge over Tesla. Plus there’s a superb heads up display and beautiful physical controls for adjusting cabin temperature, mirrors, wipers which are all done through the screen in the Model Y, requiring several distracting clicks. The steering wheel material in the RZ is surreal to the touch silky soft and boasts configurable buttons that can adjust a range of controls, including quick switching between Sport, Eco and Range modes (something I wished Tesla offered, adjusting cabin temperature AND airflow these settings are also displayed in the HUD as you hover over the steering controls. The latest Lexus infotainment is snappy and hugely configurable and with the superb sound system, this is easily the best infotainment system in the industry.
Lexus nailed the perfect balance of physical and onscreen controls not having to go through the screen for controlling mirrors, lights and wipers definitely enhances safety. The two tone soft touch surfaces elevate the driving experience you truly feel like you are in a luxury EV, unlike the somber interior of the Tesla.
The Lexus lets you fine tune your efficiency to your driving style via Normal/Eco/Range settings, which once you sign in, it remembers your preferred settings. The radiant heat feature is genius feels like a warm blanket on your legs. Safety features like Safe Exit Assist prevent doors from opening if a car or cyclist is approaching (can be overridden. The steering lifts up and driver side seat moves back to allow easy exit when you turn off the car. The rear hatch has a button that lets you shut the hatch with a delay AND lock the car useful if you are unloading things with both hands and cannot press the close button with hands full. There are so many thoughtful touches and safety features that make Tesla looks pretty crude and ancient almost Iike an unfinished product.
What about road trips I took one from Washington, DC to NYC something I’ve done in my Model Y previously the RZ 450e averaged 4. 2 miles/kWh at highway speeds with AC on in 90 degree temps. Fast charged at Tesla Superchargers to 100% (since Lexus says that’s fine to do) in under 40 minutes and arrived in NYC super refreshed due to cooled seats, excellent auto steer, superior ride comfort and overall refinement vs the Model Y. In NYC’s stop and go traffic, the RZ450e is averaging 5 miles/kWh Lexus has applied its experience optimizing for city driving efficiency to the RZ 450e.
I even camped two nights in the RZ 450e, just like I did in the Model Y, and it makes an excellent camping vehicle. The folding memory foam mattress that I had ordered for the Model Y fits perfectly in the RZ 450e! If you have a family, they would appreciate the massive rear passenger area, with flat floor, easy ingress/egress, and heated rear seats with controls in the back (unlike Tesla Model Y.
Lexus also offers 30 days of a Lexus ICE or hybrid loaner for longer road trips, but if you live on the coasts, or in a region with a high density of public fast chargers, you will likely never need to opt for the loaner.
As for lack of a frunk, I don’t miss it. The RZ has plenty of space in the sub trunk for cables, plus features like digital rear view mirror, homelink garage door opener, blind spot alert lights and beeps, 360 panoramic camera views, auto park and ventilated / cooled seats more than make up for lack of frunk! Unlike Tesla, the controls for the hood and charge port are manual which is a better design should the 12V battery fail. The 12V battery is easily accessible in the RZ 450e and Lexus offers free scheduled maintenance at regular intervals to ensure you are not stranded with a failing 12V battery. Oh, and unlike Tesla, legendary Lexus service and roadside assistance is just a phone call away there’s always someone who answers the phone should you have a question.
Lexus even delivered the vehicle to my home and the sales rep followed up multiple times in subsequent weeks to check in on my experience. With Tesla, it took them nearly 2 years and multiple email reminders to send me the correct paperwork to get my car registered in DC. Yep, I drove around with expired temp tags for almost two years. No wonder Tesla sales growth has slumped!
Lexus has now released a RZ 300e with even more range, so definitely recommend checking that out. The RZ 300e surprises has 125 MPGe EPA rating that beats Tesla Model Y.
The Toyota BZ4X is another good option a little shorter than the RZ, it sits higher than a Tesla Model 3, but rides much better, has more room in the back, and I think it also looks more interesting and sharper. Similar driving dynamics as the RZ, the BZ4X leases for under $200/month and is hands down a much better buy than the Model 3 or Y.
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I recently dumped my leased 2021 Tesla Model Y long range for the Lexus RZ 450e, after test driving 10 other EVs, including the Chevrolet Blazer and VW ID 4. Lexus discounted the RZ heavily so it ended up being a $43, 000 car. I sincerely believe it’s the best EV you can buy today. My RZ 450e has the latest Lexus software update and I am getting 275-400 miles of range at 4. 2-5. 5 miles/kWh efficiency far better efficiency than my Model Y, especially in city driving, which given my daily driving average of 25 miles means I charge just once per week to 100% which Lexus says its fine to do.
Don’t listen to the skeptics or critics who tested pre-production or prototype RZ versions with old software, 21 inch wheels and then complained about range. But first let me explain why I dumped the Tesla. Over 30, 000 miles, the AC on the Tesla failed, then the 12V battery failed without warning, stranding me for 2 weeks (and $1700 in car rental bills) while Tesla dithered around with replacing the battery. The powered frunk where the battery is located failed to open because the Tesla factory had failed to wire it properly, so they had to rig it to open it. Then the trunk strut failed which was traced to a faulty wiring harness and Tesla cited a 2 month wait to replace, with NO loaner available. If I had bought the Model Y, instead of leasing it, and had these failures happened after 50, 000 miles warranty expired, I would have been out thousands of dollars, erasing any fuel savings. BTW, the Tesla odometer was also way off, which seemed like a gimmick/scam to inflate range.
Speaking of range, the Model Y’s efficiency was awful in city driving; with 20 inch wheels, I rarely cracked 160 miles on a full charge in stop and go traffic due to aggressive regen which meant keeping the throttle pressed to keep the heavy beast moving. In DC winters, 110 miles was the best it could do, despite having a heat pump
So I switched to the Lexus RZ 450e after test-driving the Cadillac Lyriq, Hyundai Ionia 5, Kia EV6, Ford Mach-e, Nissan Ariya, VW ID4, Chevrolet Blazer, Genesis GV60, and Toyota BZ4X and Subaru Solterra.
I chose the RZ 450e with 18 inch wheels, which with latest software update unlocks more range and efficiency, and it was the best decision ever. As I noted above, disregard the skeptics / critics who tested pre-production or early production vehicles with old software. With latest software updates, the range and efficiency of the RZ 450e is amazing. 95% of my driving is in the city (Washington DC) at speeds below 35 MPH and I average well over 4. 5 miles/kWh vs 3. 0 miles/kWh for my Model Y long range in similar conditions. On a recent drive, I got 7. 2 miles/kWh. 18 inch wheels (NOT the optional 21 inch wheels) and using regen at lowest setting is key to getting maximum efficiency because Lexus designed an adaptive automatic regen braking system that recognizes when the car needs to slow down (for curves or stopped traffic) and blends in appropriate regen and friction braking as needed to simulate a true one pedal driving experience. So unlike Tesla which slows down immediately and aggressively the minute you lift off the throttle, Lexus lets you coast, which is especially fun when going downhill because the automatic reg braking slows you down as you get too close to vehicles in front!
The RZ hits 0-60 in 4. 6 seconds. Its ride quality, powertrain refinement, quietness all blow the Tesla Model Y away. It glides silently over bumps and potholes like a Mercedes S Class /EQE/EQS or a Rolls Royce, while my Model Y crashed over them like it had no shock absorbers. The RZ has a light steering which makes navigating around potholes a breeze (the steering tightens up noticeably when switched into Sport mode.
Unlike the Model Y, the RZ has TWO screens, one right in front of the driver and another large one in the center that supports wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto (with quick Home Screen short cut to access the main Lexus menu, so that’s another huge over Tesla. Plus there’s a superb heads up display and beautiful physical controls for adjusting cabin temperature, mirrors, wipers which are all done through the screen in the Model Y, requiring several distracting clicks. The steering wheel material in the RZ is surreal to the touch silky soft and boasts configurable buttons that can adjust a range of controls, including quick switching between Sport, Eco and Range modes (something I wished Tesla offered, adjusting cabin temperature AND airflow these settings are also displayed in the HUD as you hover over the steering controls. The latest Lexus infotainment is snappy and hugely configurable and with the superb sound system, this is easily the best infotainment system in the industry.
Lexus nailed the perfect balance of physical and onscreen controls not having to go through the screen for controlling mirrors, lights and wipers definitely enhances safety. The two tone soft touch surfaces elevate the driving experience you truly feel like you are in a luxury EV, unlike the somber interior of the Tesla.
The Lexus lets you fine tune your efficiency to your driving style via Normal/Eco/Range settings, which once you sign in, it remembers your preferred settings. The radiant heat feature is genius feels like a warm blanket on your legs. Safety features like Safe Exit Assist prevent doors from opening if a car or cyclist is approaching (can be overridden. The steering lifts up and driver side seat moves back to allow easy exit when you turn off the car. The rear hatch has a button that lets you shut the hatch with a delay AND lock the car useful if you are unloading things with both hands and cannot press the close button with hands full. There are so many thoughtful touches and safety features that make Tesla looks pretty crude and ancient almost Iike an unfinished product.
What about road trips I took one from Washington, DC to NYC something I’ve done in my Model Y previously the RZ 450e averaged 4. 2 miles/kWh at highway speeds with AC on in 90 degree temps. Fast charged at Tesla Superchargers to 100% (since Lexus says that’s fine to do) in under 40 minutes and arrived in NYC super refreshed due to cooled seats, excellent auto steer, superior ride comfort and overall refinement vs the Model Y. In NYC’s stop and go traffic, the RZ450e is averaging 5 miles/kWh Lexus has applied its experience optimizing for city driving efficiency to the RZ 450e.
I even camped two nights in the RZ 450e, just like I did in the Model Y, and it makes an excellent camping vehicle. The folding memory foam mattress that I had ordered for the Model Y fits perfectly in the RZ 450e! If you have a family, they would appreciate the massive rear passenger area, with flat floor, easy ingress/egress, and heated rear seats with controls in the back (unlike Tesla Model Y.
Lexus also offers 30 days of a Lexus ICE or hybrid loaner for longer road trips, but if you live on the coasts, or in a region with a high density of public fast chargers, you will likely never need to opt for the loaner.
As for lack of a frunk, I don’t miss it. The RZ has plenty of space in the sub trunk for cables, plus features like digital rear view mirror, homelink garage door opener, blind spot alert lights and beeps, 360 panoramic camera views, auto park and ventilated / cooled seats more than make up for lack of frunk! Unlike Tesla, the controls for the hood and charge port are manual which is a better design should the 12V battery fail. The 12V battery is easily accessible in the RZ 450e and Lexus offers free scheduled maintenance at regular intervals to ensure you are not stranded with a failing 12V battery. Oh, and unlike Tesla, legendary Lexus service and roadside assistance is just a phone call away there’s always someone who answers the phone should you have a question.
Lexus even delivered the vehicle to my home and the sales rep followed up multiple times in subsequent weeks to check in on my experience. With Tesla, it took them nearly 2 years and multiple email reminders to send me the correct paperwork to get my car registered in DC. Yep, I drove around with expired temp tags for almost two years. No wonder Tesla sales growth has slumped!
Lexus has now released a RZ 300e with even more range, so definitely recommend checking that out. The RZ 300e surprises has 125 MPGe EPA rating that beats Tesla Model Y.
The Toyota BZ4X is another good option a little shorter than the RZ, it sits higher than a Tesla Model 3, but rides much better, has more room in the back, and I think it also looks more interesting and sharper. Similar driving dynamics as the RZ, the BZ4X leases for under $200/month and is hands down a much better buy than the Model 3 or Y.
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Ovationhabs
Thank you for the comparative review. I’m in the early stages of EV shopping and am currently considering 4 models, including ID 4. In Quebec the market is somewhat different than the US. Until 31 December 2024, 12, 000$ EV incentive (drops to 9000$ next year) at point of sale. Place of origin is not relevant, so all mainstream models under 80k MSRP are eligible. ID 4 has heat pump as an option and Kona EVs have heat pumps as standard. Base Blazer is a lot more expensive than Pro ID 4. Equinox is a better comparison. The other two on my list, for price reasons, are Kona Preferred (analogous to SEL in the US) and FWD bZ4X LE (no real equivalent trim in US. The forks is currently the least expensive model at 3000-8000$ less than the rest. Still undecided. But I appreciate the comparison as it’s moved the ID 4 ahead of the Equinox for now.
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Thank you for the comparative review. I’m in the early stages of EV shopping and am currently considering 4 models, including ID 4. In Quebec the market is somewhat different than the US. Until 31 December 2024, 12, 000$ EV incentive (drops to 9000$ next year) at point of sale. Place of origin is not relevant, so all mainstream models under 80k MSRP are eligible. ID 4 has heat pump as an option and Kona EVs have heat pumps as standard. Base Blazer is a lot more expensive than Pro ID 4. Equinox is a better comparison. The other two on my list, for price reasons, are Kona Preferred (analogous to SEL in the US) and FWD bZ4X LE (no real equivalent trim in US. The forks is currently the least expensive model at 3000-8000$ less than the rest. Still undecided. But I appreciate the comparison as it’s moved the ID 4 ahead of the Equinox for now.
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davidtay3373
How about a three or even a four way comparison with the Hyundai IONIQ 5 and the Tesla Model Y AWD LR If I was shopping for an EV tomorrow, my choices would be the Model Y AWD LR, ID. 4 Pro S AWD, IONIQ 5 AWD. It's a tough choice because each one of these vehicles definitely have their pros and cons. VW should have added a heat pump; I believe the battery conditioning was just added for 2024, unless I'm mistaken IONIQ 5 has one advantage of the V2L and the faster charging architecture of the EGMP platform and finally, Tesla has their Supercharging network but there's also a lot of features that are missing that are present on the competition. Decisions, decisions.
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How about a three or even a four way comparison with the Hyundai IONIQ 5 and the Tesla Model Y AWD LR If I was shopping for an EV tomorrow, my choices would be the Model Y AWD LR, ID. 4 Pro S AWD, IONIQ 5 AWD. It's a tough choice because each one of these vehicles definitely have their pros and cons. VW should have added a heat pump; I believe the battery conditioning was just added for 2024, unless I'm mistaken IONIQ 5 has one advantage of the V2L and the faster charging architecture of the EGMP platform and finally, Tesla has their Supercharging network but there's also a lot of features that are missing that are present on the competition. Decisions, decisions.
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davetravels9273
We ordered an ID. 4 and had to turn it down when it finally showed up 2 years later. We got a Model Y for $10k less ($44. 5k) back in March plus we got $12. 5k in incentives as Colorado residents, so we paid $32k. Because we traded in our Model 3, Tesla gave us 2 years of free super charging plus $2k worth of Tesla credits. We liked the VW but at that price, without a heat pump, less range, less efficiency and less room, we had to pass. The Blazer seems like an even worse proposition. I would love to not get a Tesla, but no one else seems to be able to compete with them when you break down the numbers and especially the value.
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We ordered an ID. 4 and had to turn it down when it finally showed up 2 years later. We got a Model Y for $10k less ($44. 5k) back in March plus we got $12. 5k in incentives as Colorado residents, so we paid $32k. Because we traded in our Model 3, Tesla gave us 2 years of free super charging plus $2k worth of Tesla credits. We liked the VW but at that price, without a heat pump, less range, less efficiency and less room, we had to pass. The Blazer seems like an even worse proposition. I would love to not get a Tesla, but no one else seems to be able to compete with them when you break down the numbers and especially the value.
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Longsnowsm
I really wanted to like both of these cars, but sadly neither really do it for me. These manufacturers have to work on their packaging. They really should have a frunk. They really should have a heat pump. VW did update the software and infotainment system, and charging is a little better than it used to be. All that being said people would probably be better served waiting on a Model Y Juniper refreshed car. However the design compromises in the refreshed Tesla cars is a mixed bag and not a lot of peoples cup of tea. Hyundai/Kia should offer a wagon version of the Ioniq 5 and EV6. That would be interesting.
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I really wanted to like both of these cars, but sadly neither really do it for me. These manufacturers have to work on their packaging. They really should have a frunk. They really should have a heat pump. VW did update the software and infotainment system, and charging is a little better than it used to be. All that being said people would probably be better served waiting on a Model Y Juniper refreshed car. However the design compromises in the refreshed Tesla cars is a mixed bag and not a lot of peoples cup of tea. Hyundai/Kia should offer a wagon version of the Ioniq 5 and EV6. That would be interesting.
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Trades46
In Canada the Blazer is far more expensive than the ID. 4, so the Equinox EV is probably the closer rival. I think they're both good but in different ways - the GM twins definitely have more range with the 85 kWh battery vs the 77 kWh in the VW, but the ID. 4 has a 350V nominal pack compared to the 290V in the GM twins which means the former will charge faster. I'm not a fan of GM removing Apple CarPlay, whereas VW still has wireless CarPlay Android Auto.
In Canada, you can option the heat pump back on the ID. 4, though the Equinox & Blazer comes standard with it.
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In Canada the Blazer is far more expensive than the ID. 4, so the Equinox EV is probably the closer rival. I think they're both good but in different ways - the GM twins definitely have more range with the 85 kWh battery vs the 77 kWh in the VW, but the ID. 4 has a 350V nominal pack compared to the 290V in the GM twins which means the former will charge faster. I'm not a fan of GM removing Apple CarPlay, whereas VW still has wireless CarPlay Android Auto.
In Canada, you can option the heat pump back on the ID. 4, though the Equinox & Blazer comes standard with it.
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philcyr70
Just leased a Blazer EV after seeing the great deal Alex got on his. We got a great deal and very happy with the car, 2LT trim. Car was for the wife and she previously only had Bluetooth audio so not having it in this car isn't a big deal. My only complaint is Chevy is selling a $50k with power seats and memory seats aren't standard.
We considered the ID4 but the no heat pump and capacitive touch buttons was a bigger deal than no Carplay. Also wife isn't concerned with speed, comfort and more room for kids was a priority.
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Just leased a Blazer EV after seeing the great deal Alex got on his. We got a great deal and very happy with the car, 2LT trim. Car was for the wife and she previously only had Bluetooth audio so not having it in this car isn't a big deal. My only complaint is Chevy is selling a $50k with power seats and memory seats aren't standard.
We considered the ID4 but the no heat pump and capacitive touch buttons was a bigger deal than no Carplay. Also wife isn't concerned with speed, comfort and more room for kids was a priority.
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DS-mz7dy
I'm a chevy guy but that ID 4 seems much quicker than the Blazer which is something I'd like. GM needs to up the HP of the motors. Our next vehicle will probably be either an Equinox EV or Blazer EV. I'd go for the ID 4 but my wife doesn't like the looks of it (all subjective. One suggestion I'd like to see on reviews is to throw a set of golf clubs in the back to see how they fit. You may not golf but my wife and I do and we're curious how the fit would be. Thanks for the great reviews!
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I'm a chevy guy but that ID 4 seems much quicker than the Blazer which is something I'd like. GM needs to up the HP of the motors. Our next vehicle will probably be either an Equinox EV or Blazer EV. I'd go for the ID 4 but my wife doesn't like the looks of it (all subjective. One suggestion I'd like to see on reviews is to throw a set of golf clubs in the back to see how they fit. You may not golf but my wife and I do and we're curious how the fit would be. Thanks for the great reviews!
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LYNDONGOLDEN
Anytime I’m at an auto show, or Volkswagen dealer, I find myself repeatedly sitting in the ID. 4, as something about the interior shapes and driving position feel ahhhh, just right! But the glossy black trim, haptic feedback controls, and worse than average electronic interfaces made things a NO GO. It was a Tesla model Y that won the sale this time. I’m hoping that Volkswagen continues to improve their controls and perhaps I can be serious about them next time.
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Anytime I’m at an auto show, or Volkswagen dealer, I find myself repeatedly sitting in the ID. 4, as something about the interior shapes and driving position feel ahhhh, just right! But the glossy black trim, haptic feedback controls, and worse than average electronic interfaces made things a NO GO. It was a Tesla model Y that won the sale this time. I’m hoping that Volkswagen continues to improve their controls and perhaps I can be serious about them next time.
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pine111
I bought the ID. 4 before the Blazer EV came out, I drove a Blazer EV, and I still would pick the ID. 4 over it. The ID. 4 has CarPlay, it charges faster, better compatibility with chargers, it’s more efficient, has more power, drives better, is more maneuverable, and you can get a much higher trim ID. 4 for the same price as the base Blazer EV.
I also drove an Equinox EV, and I liked it more than the Blazer EV, but overall preferred the ID. 4 over both.
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I bought the ID. 4 before the Blazer EV came out, I drove a Blazer EV, and I still would pick the ID. 4 over it. The ID. 4 has CarPlay, it charges faster, better compatibility with chargers, it’s more efficient, has more power, drives better, is more maneuverable, and you can get a much higher trim ID. 4 for the same price as the base Blazer EV.
I also drove an Equinox EV, and I liked it more than the Blazer EV, but overall preferred the ID. 4 over both.
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desertmodern7638
Checked out both these cars back-to-back the same day. Hated the VW window switches, loved the super intuitive transmission control. The VW's very thin sunroof shade allowed noticeable heat gain on a mild day - a deal breaker. The Blazer was solid and refined, and had today's incentives been in place then, I might have bought it. The 288 hp AWD version was quite adequate, but a bit more power would be very persuasive.
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Checked out both these cars back-to-back the same day. Hated the VW window switches, loved the super intuitive transmission control. The VW's very thin sunroof shade allowed noticeable heat gain on a mild day - a deal breaker. The Blazer was solid and refined, and had today's incentives been in place then, I might have bought it. The 288 hp AWD version was quite adequate, but a bit more power would be very persuasive.
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Peizxcv
$51000. I've just watched review of Geely Galaxy E5 which is a fraction bigger than ID. 4 and will be available in 80 markets. It only costs $1550020500 in the Chinese market. Make it US compliant, add American features, shipping cost and it would still be below $30000.
Non-Tesla EVs in the US are way too expensive. They all rely on the $7500 subsidy to cover for their manufacturing inefficiency and dealer skimming
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$51000. I've just watched review of Geely Galaxy E5 which is a fraction bigger than ID. 4 and will be available in 80 markets. It only costs $1550020500 in the Chinese market. Make it US compliant, add American features, shipping cost and it would still be below $30000.
Non-Tesla EVs in the US are way too expensive. They all rely on the $7500 subsidy to cover for their manufacturing inefficiency and dealer skimming
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trublulou
Hi guys, one of the most violated rules of the English language is redundancy. When Chris Brown says this is where the Bills are at, he is violating the rule as where and at are the same thing. To be correct he needs to drop the at. To me, hearing professional commentators violate the rule is like hearing scratching on a blackboard. Please let me enjoy Buffalo Plus without the scratching.
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Hi guys, one of the most violated rules of the English language is redundancy. When Chris Brown says this is where the Bills are at, he is violating the rule as where and at are the same thing. To be correct he needs to drop the at. To me, hearing professional commentators violate the rule is like hearing scratching on a blackboard. Please let me enjoy Buffalo Plus without the scratching.
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ttch2911
At $51k, why don't i just get a Tesla model Y at less money Also has heat pump and a much more refined use experience. Tesla also has over the air update for software improvements for years to come. I don't put too much faith on either companies as far as providing timely updates, and continue updates after 5 years
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At $51k, why don't i just get a Tesla model Y at less money Also has heat pump and a much more refined use experience. Tesla also has over the air update for software improvements for years to come. I don't put too much faith on either companies as far as providing timely updates, and continue updates after 5 years
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GeeDeeBird
We test drove both and, like you, found the price to be within a few hundred dollars - though the VW was a better option package. We got the ID4 Pro S AWD, and we love it. Fun to drive, fast to charge and just feels solid! I recommend everyone drive them both before deciding. Thanks for what you folks do!
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We test drove both and, like you, found the price to be within a few hundred dollars - though the VW was a better option package. We got the ID4 Pro S AWD, and we love it. Fun to drive, fast to charge and just feels solid! I recommend everyone drive them both before deciding. Thanks for what you folks do!
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ruffmadman
Its interesting to see how competent the ID. 4 still is compared to a more modern vehicle. I mean, the ID. 4 isnt old by any means, but its clear they made some pretty smart design choices regarding packaging. Also its surprising that the Blazer EV doesnt charge nearly as fast as the ID. 4.
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Its interesting to see how competent the ID. 4 still is compared to a more modern vehicle. I mean, the ID. 4 isnt old by any means, but its clear they made some pretty smart design choices regarding packaging. Also its surprising that the Blazer EV doesnt charge nearly as fast as the ID. 4.
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hwbehrens
Chevy is going to be fighting an uphill battle as long as they refuse to include phone integrations. Their interior is more full-featured, tactile button, more pleasant, etc. than the VW, but being locked into their infotainment is a deal breaker for me (and many, I suspect.
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Chevy is going to be fighting an uphill battle as long as they refuse to include phone integrations. Their interior is more full-featured, tactile button, more pleasant, etc. than the VW, but being locked into their infotainment is a deal breaker for me (and many, I suspect.
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future62
I have a 2023 ID4 Pro S AWD; absolutely love it outside of the squishy brake feel. I would probably go with a RWD 2024 as it's quick enough and much more efficient. I've seen close to 4mi/kWh in my driving so the new RWD would crest that magic number easily.
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I have a 2023 ID4 Pro S AWD; absolutely love it outside of the squishy brake feel. I would probably go with a RWD 2024 as it's quick enough and much more efficient. I've seen close to 4mi/kWh in my driving so the new RWD would crest that magic number easily.
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ichinichisan
I'd choose the VW just for the smartphone integration. It's true that it snows where I live, but _they both have AWD, _ so front vs. rear bias doesn't bother me. The lack of heat pump is a bummer though.
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I'd choose the VW just for the smartphone integration. It's true that it snows where I live, but _they both have AWD, _ so front vs. rear bias doesn't bother me. The lack of heat pump is a bummer though.
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bloodbp
what even is the point of a big screen if I can't use android auto And unless Chevy opens their software to third party security audits I'm not entering my usernames and passwords into that thing.
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what even is the point of a big screen if I can't use android auto And unless Chevy opens their software to third party security audits I'm not entering my usernames and passwords into that thing.
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