2019 Nissan Leaf E Plus First Look
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Date: 2019-05-30
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Comments and reviews: 10
retrodog63
Ill tell you what theyre thinking. They are thinking its still 2011 and they are leading the pack. Im driving a 2015 Leaf S and it even has a fast charger. I never use it since I installed a level 2 in my garage, but Id still want to have it for an emergency quick charge. My problem is that I really REALLY like everything about the Leaf from seating position to overall handling. I even like it better for commuting around town than my 2016 Volt Premier. The Volt has it beat when it comes to a road trip, or generally any drive thats over an hour, but that leaves a lot of room (and use) for the Leaf. Nissan, you teased us a couple of months ago with better batteries and liquid cooling, Then you regressed to forced air cooling. And now youre back to passive air cooling and your in-house brand batteries. Whats it going to be on release, NiCads and a beer can heat sink?
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Ill tell you what theyre thinking. They are thinking its still 2011 and they are leading the pack. Im driving a 2015 Leaf S and it even has a fast charger. I never use it since I installed a level 2 in my garage, but Id still want to have it for an emergency quick charge. My problem is that I really REALLY like everything about the Leaf from seating position to overall handling. I even like it better for commuting around town than my 2016 Volt Premier. The Volt has it beat when it comes to a road trip, or generally any drive thats over an hour, but that leaves a lot of room (and use) for the Leaf. Nissan, you teased us a couple of months ago with better batteries and liquid cooling, Then you regressed to forced air cooling. And now youre back to passive air cooling and your in-house brand batteries. Whats it going to be on release, NiCads and a beer can heat sink?
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EV Addicted
Nissan completely is loosing me with eplus. Right now leasing my second LEAF which is 30kWh 2016 SV. After this i am done with Nissan. Many non sense things. No liquid cooling. Base model 62kWh but no DC charging port? Whats exactly the point of having long range EV with no fast charging. So whats the point having 62kWh battery pack with no liquid cooling while it supports up to 70kW Chademo fast charging. Btw good luck finding Chademo capable charging over 50kW. Everyone switched to CCS. So the chance in future will be even less to find working CHademo station. The new stations now feature like 1 Chademo and 4 CCS. Honestly i am not sure what Nissan were thinking. Seems like they dont care really or didnt do they home work.
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Nissan completely is loosing me with eplus. Right now leasing my second LEAF which is 30kWh 2016 SV. After this i am done with Nissan. Many non sense things. No liquid cooling. Base model 62kWh but no DC charging port? Whats exactly the point of having long range EV with no fast charging. So whats the point having 62kWh battery pack with no liquid cooling while it supports up to 70kW Chademo fast charging. Btw good luck finding Chademo capable charging over 50kW. Everyone switched to CCS. So the chance in future will be even less to find working CHademo station. The new stations now feature like 1 Chademo and 4 CCS. Honestly i am not sure what Nissan were thinking. Seems like they dont care really or didnt do they home work.
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James Mastroianni
Extended range models need to be over 300. 150 works for 95% of people and the few who need more need a lot more. My mother drives 200+ miles a day sometimes and would just run out of car considering the cold climate and the fact theres usually people besides her in it. And with virtually no public charging stations in the northeast, there would be no way to recharge on the go, and it would take too long as it needs to be 10 minutes or less in her case. The car she drives now gets about 450 miles on a single tank, so she can reliably fill it and then go out for a long day of driving. Until charging gets faster or ranges get drastically longer, the long range models are kinda pointless
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Extended range models need to be over 300. 150 works for 95% of people and the few who need more need a lot more. My mother drives 200+ miles a day sometimes and would just run out of car considering the cold climate and the fact theres usually people besides her in it. And with virtually no public charging stations in the northeast, there would be no way to recharge on the go, and it would take too long as it needs to be 10 minutes or less in her case. The car she drives now gets about 450 miles on a single tank, so she can reliably fill it and then go out for a long day of driving. Until charging gets faster or ranges get drastically longer, the long range models are kinda pointless
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Henri Zwols
3: 40 Nothing wrong with an air-cooled battery pack, lots of cars have it like Hyundais and Kias EVs and the VW e-golf. Sure liquid cooling is better, but more costly and weights more. Air cooling will suffice in most climates if its active cooling, using air conditioned air. The problem with the Leaf is that it doesnt have active air cooling, just ambient air.
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3: 40 Nothing wrong with an air-cooled battery pack, lots of cars have it like Hyundais and Kias EVs and the VW e-golf. Sure liquid cooling is better, but more costly and weights more. Air cooling will suffice in most climates if its active cooling, using air conditioned air. The problem with the Leaf is that it doesnt have active air cooling, just ambient air.
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alliejr
Alex, what happend to CHADEMO? At the (recent) (re)dawn of electric cars, it seemed like CHADEMO was _THE_ standard for charging aside from Tesla who built out a proprietary system. Now it seems to have died. Do you know what happened?
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Alex, what happend to CHADEMO? At the (recent) (re)dawn of electric cars, it seemed like CHADEMO was _THE_ standard for charging aside from Tesla who built out a proprietary system. Now it seems to have died. Do you know what happened?
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Boris de Melo
You said it has air cooling. Do you mean active air cooling or passive cooling like the existing Leaf? At least if its active cooling, it is actively moving heat away, even if its not as good as liquid cooled batteries.
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You said it has air cooling. Do you mean active air cooling or passive cooling like the existing Leaf? At least if its active cooling, it is actively moving heat away, even if its not as good as liquid cooled batteries.
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Russiarulez
Availability in all 50 states. how about serviceability in all 50 states. For example Alaska doesnt have any Leaf-certified dealerships, so while technically you could ship a Leaf to Alaska, you cant service it.
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Availability in all 50 states. how about serviceability in all 50 states. For example Alaska doesnt have any Leaf-certified dealerships, so while technically you could ship a Leaf to Alaska, you cant service it.
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ram64man
226 or 215 mile range no water cooling or bev winter protection, the wrong side of 250 compared to the competition, and they still havent fixed that damm steering wheel adjustment, come on Nissan
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226 or 215 mile range no water cooling or bev winter protection, the wrong side of 250 compared to the competition, and they still havent fixed that damm steering wheel adjustment, come on Nissan
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Anderson Rodriguez
This is just a Renault Clo smh all Renault parts smh only if Renault and Nissan part ways Nissan would make good care again using French company to make their cars worst idea
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This is just a Renault Clo smh all Renault parts smh only if Renault and Nissan part ways Nissan would make good care again using French company to make their cars worst idea
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Sean O'Neill
Nissan has to hit rock bottom at some point, and I think this is it. Years of Jatco CVTs, and now, non-liquid cooled EVs. Hopefully new management is on the way.
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Nissan has to hit rock bottom at some point, and I think this is it. Years of Jatco CVTs, and now, non-liquid cooled EVs. Hopefully new management is on the way.
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