The Honda Hybrid You've Been Asking For 2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid
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Date: 2020-07-31
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Comments and reviews: 10
Stephen
Obviously as far as the current crop is concerned it's a contest primarily between the RAV4 and the CR-V with the Escape Hybrid trailing the two leaders. In terms of brands I'm somewhat prejudiced toward Honda over Toyota vehicles. Each has its strong points and weaknesses but I have to admit that the RAV4 takes the prize in that comparison. If the RAV4 Prime were in the mix, the gap would be even greater but since that vehicle is unavailable for up to a couple of years, or so, I see it as nothing more than a marketing ploy designed to boost sales of the current RAV4 Hybrid and put the brakes on the sale of other plug-in hybrids.
I actually prefer the looks of the Escape Hybrid to either the CR-V and the RAV4. I haven't examined it closely, though, and Ford's choices in terms of cost cutting (especially in their interiors) make me somewhat hesitant about the overall package.
Bottom line. Having owned two KIA Sorentos that have given my family unfailingly great service in a Goldilocks size (about 8 -10 longer the compact crossover category) I'd be waiting to see what the hybrid version of the KIA has to offer.
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Obviously as far as the current crop is concerned it's a contest primarily between the RAV4 and the CR-V with the Escape Hybrid trailing the two leaders. In terms of brands I'm somewhat prejudiced toward Honda over Toyota vehicles. Each has its strong points and weaknesses but I have to admit that the RAV4 takes the prize in that comparison. If the RAV4 Prime were in the mix, the gap would be even greater but since that vehicle is unavailable for up to a couple of years, or so, I see it as nothing more than a marketing ploy designed to boost sales of the current RAV4 Hybrid and put the brakes on the sale of other plug-in hybrids.
I actually prefer the looks of the Escape Hybrid to either the CR-V and the RAV4. I haven't examined it closely, though, and Ford's choices in terms of cost cutting (especially in their interiors) make me somewhat hesitant about the overall package.
Bottom line. Having owned two KIA Sorentos that have given my family unfailingly great service in a Goldilocks size (about 8 -10 longer the compact crossover category) I'd be waiting to see what the hybrid version of the KIA has to offer.
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Daniel
I think it's pretty apparent the 2. 0 NA engine in this isn't strong enough for a vehicle this heavy at highway speeds. Toyota's decision to invest in a new 2. 5 NA engine looks pretty smart right now because Honda's only choice looks to be putting in a turbo in their hybrids like Hyundai/Kia is doing with a 1. 6T for the Santa Fe and Sorento. It's gotta be direct injection, of course, so oil dilution may be a problem for hybrids designed to use the ICE as little as possible.
I'm going to assume the Tuscon hybrid will use the 2. 0 NA hybrid found in the Sonata which will be slower than the RAV4 HV but it's also smaller than the RAV4/CR-V.
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I think it's pretty apparent the 2. 0 NA engine in this isn't strong enough for a vehicle this heavy at highway speeds. Toyota's decision to invest in a new 2. 5 NA engine looks pretty smart right now because Honda's only choice looks to be putting in a turbo in their hybrids like Hyundai/Kia is doing with a 1. 6T for the Santa Fe and Sorento. It's gotta be direct injection, of course, so oil dilution may be a problem for hybrids designed to use the ICE as little as possible.
I'm going to assume the Tuscon hybrid will use the 2. 0 NA hybrid found in the Sonata which will be slower than the RAV4 HV but it's also smaller than the RAV4/CR-V.
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Ziyang
Alex, thank you for the video!
I m really puzzled by the 212 total hp. In Accord hybrid forum this is really on debate.
I remember you said 212hp happens at very high speed with engine directly connected plus the motor, but some guess the motor can boost to 212hp for a short while.
My personal experience is that on hwy passing, the direct connection is always disconnected to let electric motor drive the wheel. Therefore, it feels like 212hp happens only at e-drive condition.
I still don t feel you make it clear in this video.
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Alex, thank you for the video!
I m really puzzled by the 212 total hp. In Accord hybrid forum this is really on debate.
I remember you said 212hp happens at very high speed with engine directly connected plus the motor, but some guess the motor can boost to 212hp for a short while.
My personal experience is that on hwy passing, the direct connection is always disconnected to let electric motor drive the wheel. Therefore, it feels like 212hp happens only at e-drive condition.
I still don t feel you make it clear in this video.
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Jason
The killer for me is the cargo space. We have a Gen3 CRV now and it would have more space than this model. So the decision is simple for us. We will stay with the ICE CRV as the RAV4 is just too expensive for the same trim levels. The change from the old K24 engine to the newer L15T will save fuel for us anyhow so sacrificing any cargo space is just not worth it to us.
Good review though Andy! Thanks!
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The killer for me is the cargo space. We have a Gen3 CRV now and it would have more space than this model. So the decision is simple for us. We will stay with the ICE CRV as the RAV4 is just too expensive for the same trim levels. The change from the old K24 engine to the newer L15T will save fuel for us anyhow so sacrificing any cargo space is just not worth it to us.
Good review though Andy! Thanks!
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Daniel
This crap with increasing their profit by not providing a spare tire. I'm sure we all want to sit on the curb in the rain or snow repairing a tire. I've also heard that I can have my car towed to the dealer where they can 5x the price of a new tire along with the cost of the tow. All auto sellers who pull this crap can scam someone else. I want a spare, even if it's only a temporary spare.
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This crap with increasing their profit by not providing a spare tire. I'm sure we all want to sit on the curb in the rain or snow repairing a tire. I've also heard that I can have my car towed to the dealer where they can 5x the price of a new tire along with the cost of the tow. All auto sellers who pull this crap can scam someone else. I want a spare, even if it's only a temporary spare.
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George
Love everything about the car, except for one MAJOR issue that strikes it from my short shopping list: no spare tire. I ve been in trouble before, at night, in pouring rain, in the middle of nowhere and ran over a small object that blew the tire. Called for roadside and was told, 3-4 hours. Changed it myself within 15 minutes and got home. All because I has a full-size spare.
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Love everything about the car, except for one MAJOR issue that strikes it from my short shopping list: no spare tire. I ve been in trouble before, at night, in pouring rain, in the middle of nowhere and ran over a small object that blew the tire. Called for roadside and was told, 3-4 hours. Changed it myself within 15 minutes and got home. All because I has a full-size spare.
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Right
Alex, You #agonized over your rankings but in the end you, quite rightly, put the RAV4 Hybrid on top. Sometimes when a manufacturer says 0 tow rating I think they are bluffing but in this case I would be very worried about that over-stressed Honda engine literally blowing up in pieces on the side of the road. Better luck next time CR-V and for gosh sakes bring a spare; )
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Alex, You #agonized over your rankings but in the end you, quite rightly, put the RAV4 Hybrid on top. Sometimes when a manufacturer says 0 tow rating I think they are bluffing but in this case I would be very worried about that over-stressed Honda engine literally blowing up in pieces on the side of the road. Better luck next time CR-V and for gosh sakes bring a spare; )
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Al13n1nV8D3R
The CRV Hybrid sacrifices power and acceleration for efficiency but still deliver less efficiency than a Rav4 Hybrid Prime. While the Rav4 DID NOT give up power or acceleration for efficiency! Why would anyone pick a Crv over a Rav4? Seem like Honda failed to deliver or they need to hire on Toyota engineers.
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The CRV Hybrid sacrifices power and acceleration for efficiency but still deliver less efficiency than a Rav4 Hybrid Prime. While the Rav4 DID NOT give up power or acceleration for efficiency! Why would anyone pick a Crv over a Rav4? Seem like Honda failed to deliver or they need to hire on Toyota engineers.
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David
Having a spare tire, even one that is compact, is like having insurance; hopefully the need to utilize it is never necessary, but you're very thankful that you have it when that situation crops up. Honda should have figured out a way to provide something other than a tire repair kit.
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Having a spare tire, even one that is compact, is like having insurance; hopefully the need to utilize it is never necessary, but you're very thankful that you have it when that situation crops up. Honda should have figured out a way to provide something other than a tire repair kit.
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Alex
Honda has the better AWD System then the Toyota, but doesn't get the better MPG. Looks very nice in that color. Since this is their first time doing a hybrid with the CRV, it can only get better from here. Great review Alex. I wonder if they'd do a Passport Hybrid in the future.
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Honda has the better AWD System then the Toyota, but doesn't get the better MPG. Looks very nice in that color. Since this is their first time doing a hybrid with the CRV, it can only get better from here. Great review Alex. I wonder if they'd do a Passport Hybrid in the future.
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