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Chevy/GMC Flex Fuel: Running Rich

Chevy/GMC Flex Fuel: Running Rich

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I have a look at a GMC 1500 4. 8 with the Flex Fuel engine and according to scan data it is running rich. REALLY Rich! Pretty common issue with these vehicles and it is a really simple fix. So if you have a P0172 and P0175 be sure to check the alcohol composition first. Important: The system is initialized by baselining itself on ASTM spec Gasoline (alcohol 010%. When an E85 compatible vehicle is built, an ECM or PCM replaced, or if the learned alcohol content has been reset with a scan tool, the fuel system will need to contain ASTM spec gasoline with 10% or less ethanol content. If the fuel in the fuel system needs to be drained and replaced with ASTM spec gasoline, the vehicle will need to run for approximately 11km (7mi) at full operating temperature before the system will be fully adjusted to the correct alcohol content. Once system initialization has been completed and the calibration verified to be the below listed calibration part number or later, gasoline with any ethanol content between 0 and 85% may be added, provided it is added in a quantity of 11Liters (3gallons) or more, and the vehicle is run long enough to learn the new fuel After the re-fueling event, the system registers the amount of fuel that was taken on-board, relative to the amount that was in the tank. Reading fuel trim and O2 sensor activity, the system determines the ethanol content of the fuel that was added. Based on that determination, it adjusts itself to the expected alcohol mix in the fuel tank and lets the fuel trim and O2 sensor activity fine tune the adjustments. The system must remain in closed loop in order for this adjustment to occur. Numerous short trips after switching from gasoline to E85, or vice versa, can result in driveability symptoms due to the inability of the system to adjust for fuel composition (by not attaining the parameters necessary to reach closed loop operation)
Date: 2020-08-05

Comments and reviews: 10


I wonder if some of the Ford flex fuel vehicles can have similar problems? Twice now in the last few years I have had rich codes on my 2004 4. 0 ford sport trac and had slight rough idle. After doing the usual MAF cleaning and other things and not solving my problem I watched Eric O's earlier vids about resetting the computer and that has fixed my problem both times.
I have been guilty of regularly topping off my tank a few bucks at a time and also would sometimes run some E85 for the heck of it.

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ERIC PO451 tank pressure sensor after market fuel pump GMC Sierra 1500 flex fuel that code keeps coming up after install 29 percent alcohol level have seen the evap solenoid code also PO446 which is not coming up now just the PO451 is this a bad tank pressure sensor on a crappy aftermarket fuel pump this is the second one installed under warranty if 5 volt reference is there what could it be causing this code other than a tank pressure sensor that is not working well on this fine GM product
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I had the 172 and 175 codes intermittently on my 2014 Silverado 5. 3 GDI and the first thing I looked at was the fuel composition. It was at 6%. fuel trims were off the charts, both banks ltfts = -35 and stfts = -30. MAF sensor not over reporting either. I isolated the PCV with no fuel trim improvments, then isolated the evap with the same results. The problem disappeared a few weeks later and has not recurred. I am open to suggestions as to what would cause this
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Funny the other garages didn't pick up on that one earlier? Or maybe they did? Hard to trust any one under the hoods now days. Eric O, maybe he's the one mechanic that everyone within 50 miles should be considering. Thanks Eric for telling it like it is.
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Why did this need the reset? What made it change to an incorrect setting? If the customer cannot easily reset this him/herself, then this is a truly awful system. Will it reoccur if the root cause is not addressed? This one left us hanging Eric.
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My LTFT STFT are - 17. MAF 2. 6 on idle and with ac on idle 3. 5. egr error 99. 2 sometimes egr fluctuating even negative error. O2 sensor 1 no reading sensor 2 reading is. 1 to. 9. air fuel ratio commanded and measured fluctuating.
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Good to know, I have a Flex-Fuel 05 Avalanche with approx. 130, 000 miles. Never had a problem with the Flex-Fuel system or the eng not running properly. I try to run E85 as much as possible in her she drinks a lot of alcohol: -)
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Had same problem on my 09 Silverado. Alcohol content was in the 30s when I run 91 pure gas since new. Had my mechanic disable comp data sensor. I will never run any ethenol in it. No more problems and get more mpg!
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Water in the gas from a bad refuel station can trigger that. Usually I just add octane booster to a full tank and it goes back to normal. Does not always work so I say just reset it like he recommends
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I have shown your old video with the same prob to customers and let you explain what the prob is and not to top off the fuel tank as often as they do. Thanks for all the info and entertainment
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