Dodge Journey: Power Steering Return Hose Leaking
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Date: 2023-03-16
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Lee
Quite by accident I happened upon a miracle juice for noisy power steering pumps. I had on hand some valvoline MAXlife ATF so I filled it back up. Right away silence, so I tried it again on another vehicle with the howl that just won't quit and it quit too. Suggested it to my sister with endless troubles back and forth between the dealer and her pump replaced at least once under warranty and that one went silent as well. A product that actually works? I'm not sure what to do with that one. When I started as a pup, my power steering pump had a tub on it about the size of quart oil can and yeah oil came in tin cans back then or steel 5 gallon buckets or 55 gallon drums with nothing in between those choices. Said use ATF embossed right on the lid that had a screw on cap. Then for 30 years we couldn't use ATF and MUST use genuine (and ONLY OEM) hydraulic type power steering fluid. Didn't change the incessant howls one little bit and now full circle back to ATF.
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Quite by accident I happened upon a miracle juice for noisy power steering pumps. I had on hand some valvoline MAXlife ATF so I filled it back up. Right away silence, so I tried it again on another vehicle with the howl that just won't quit and it quit too. Suggested it to my sister with endless troubles back and forth between the dealer and her pump replaced at least once under warranty and that one went silent as well. A product that actually works? I'm not sure what to do with that one. When I started as a pup, my power steering pump had a tub on it about the size of quart oil can and yeah oil came in tin cans back then or steel 5 gallon buckets or 55 gallon drums with nothing in between those choices. Said use ATF embossed right on the lid that had a screw on cap. Then for 30 years we couldn't use ATF and MUST use genuine (and ONLY OEM) hydraulic type power steering fluid. Didn't change the incessant howls one little bit and now full circle back to ATF.
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Chris
I remember fixing a leaking return hose on my van a few years ago. Very easy to replace but it went halfway around the engine bay so it was a quite long piece of aluminium tube. The price for a new one was some ridiculous figure and there were no aftermarket options.
I decided to see if I could get it repaired. The local branch of the we fix anything to do with hydraulics company looked at it and said oh, no, we can't fix that. I took it up the road to a small two man outfit, they looked at it for about 2 minutes, asked if it was the feed or return, then said no problem, come back after lunch. This was at about 11 in the morning. They cut out the leaking part and fitted a piece of flexible tube. Fixed for about 1/10th the price of a new part.
The big guys are often not the best option.
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I remember fixing a leaking return hose on my van a few years ago. Very easy to replace but it went halfway around the engine bay so it was a quite long piece of aluminium tube. The price for a new one was some ridiculous figure and there were no aftermarket options.
I decided to see if I could get it repaired. The local branch of the we fix anything to do with hydraulics company looked at it and said oh, no, we can't fix that. I took it up the road to a small two man outfit, they looked at it for about 2 minutes, asked if it was the feed or return, then said no problem, come back after lunch. This was at about 11 in the morning. They cut out the leaking part and fitted a piece of flexible tube. Fixed for about 1/10th the price of a new part.
The big guys are often not the best option.
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myk55501
Hey, My Mechanic was funny but true Chevy makes auto mechanics rich again he said if it wasn't for GM and Dodge he been in a homeless shelter. He had a good one the other day a lady said her car is growling he put it up on the lift and it starts growling at him
then 2 raccoons jump out and chased him the other guys there were laughing so hard. I said what the going rate for Growling car repairs. He said it depends on whether I need change of shorts after and how many Beers it take to forget about it.
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Hey, My Mechanic was funny but true Chevy makes auto mechanics rich again he said if it wasn't for GM and Dodge he been in a homeless shelter. He had a good one the other day a lady said her car is growling he put it up on the lift and it starts growling at him
then 2 raccoons jump out and chased him the other guys there were laughing so hard. I said what the going rate for Growling car repairs. He said it depends on whether I need change of shorts after and how many Beers it take to forget about it.
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Bryan
Well it kinda makes sense if the hose heats up and expands just enough to seal that and if it s a return side it s gonna have suction pulling on the fluid when running so essentially everything is working against a leak when hot. I ve seen this kinda thing a lot working on big iron. Also seen suction side hoses pull air into the system and foam the oil and never leak a drop. 2 things that you can never expect to make sense hoses and wom taxes that was the other one taxes.
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Well it kinda makes sense if the hose heats up and expands just enough to seal that and if it s a return side it s gonna have suction pulling on the fluid when running so essentially everything is working against a leak when hot. I ve seen this kinda thing a lot working on big iron. Also seen suction side hoses pull air into the system and foam the oil and never leak a drop. 2 things that you can never expect to make sense hoses and wom taxes that was the other one taxes.
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Hoosier
Also a wrinkle extending from the outer corner of the eye usually plural, i. e. crow's feet. First used in 14th century, the expression was invented and used long before the tool was invented, so the name of the tool would evoke images, memory and recall of resemblance to either the crows foot wrinkles in people or memory of the appearance of an actual crow's foot. In any case, the meaning would certainly be communicated, recognized and easily understood.
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Also a wrinkle extending from the outer corner of the eye usually plural, i. e. crow's feet. First used in 14th century, the expression was invented and used long before the tool was invented, so the name of the tool would evoke images, memory and recall of resemblance to either the crows foot wrinkles in people or memory of the appearance of an actual crow's foot. In any case, the meaning would certainly be communicated, recognized and easily understood.
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Jason
First thing that came to my mind. (sorry) Rolling Stones. She's so Cold
Yeah, I tried re-wiring her
Tried re-firing her
I think her engine is permanently stalled
She's so cold, she's so cold
She's so cold cold cold
Like a tombstone
She's so cold, she's so cold
She's so cold cold, cold like an ice cream cone
She's so cold, she's so cold
I dare not touch her, my hand just froze
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First thing that came to my mind. (sorry) Rolling Stones. She's so Cold
Yeah, I tried re-wiring her
Tried re-firing her
I think her engine is permanently stalled
She's so cold, she's so cold
She's so cold cold cold
Like a tombstone
She's so cold, she's so cold
She's so cold cold, cold like an ice cream cone
She's so cold, she's so cold
I dare not touch her, my hand just froze
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spelunkerd
Although it may seem as though a simple repair like this is not worth posting, you have to understand the different perspective of your amateur audience. If anything, these kind of simple fixes are definitely worth it, they are empowering because they are realistically within our DIY wheelhouse. Strangely, the most intimidating things are silly connectors that break before one understands how they work.
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Although it may seem as though a simple repair like this is not worth posting, you have to understand the different perspective of your amateur audience. If anything, these kind of simple fixes are definitely worth it, they are empowering because they are realistically within our DIY wheelhouse. Strangely, the most intimidating things are silly connectors that break before one understands how they work.
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Thomas
Wife has a 2015 Grand Cherokee with the V6. Last time I changed the oil I noticed the PS fluid reservoir low. Recently went in to the dealer for a bunch of warranty work. The guy we bought it from bought the Mopar extended warranty. Anyway, this was on my list but the dealer said they found no leaks. I'm like, the fluid didn't evaporate. Think ill check this line. Maybe a common problem?
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Wife has a 2015 Grand Cherokee with the V6. Last time I changed the oil I noticed the PS fluid reservoir low. Recently went in to the dealer for a bunch of warranty work. The guy we bought it from bought the Mopar extended warranty. Anyway, this was on my list but the dealer said they found no leaks. I'm like, the fluid didn't evaporate. Think ill check this line. Maybe a common problem?
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Scott
I had ONE Chrysler product I liked & found very reliable.
My old 69 Valiant was pretty near indestructible.
Slant-6, no power options, drums all around, AM radio, IIRC about 8 wires under the hood.
Awesome car.
Won't even blame the 225 for squirting out it's head gasket. (Might have driven it home about 30 miles with no coolant) Gave me a good excuse to swap in a 318. :)
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I had ONE Chrysler product I liked & found very reliable.
My old 69 Valiant was pretty near indestructible.
Slant-6, no power options, drums all around, AM radio, IIRC about 8 wires under the hood.
Awesome car.
Won't even blame the 225 for squirting out it's head gasket. (Might have driven it home about 30 miles with no coolant) Gave me a good excuse to swap in a 318. :)
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Mike
To me, Luna's acknowledgement was more like a slight turn of the head in passing, oh hi! (gees I gotta get out a here)
Nice fix Mr. O. Funny how OEM's rush to get vehicles out of the factory for sale, but suddenly have the wonderful, updated with improved quality (hose in this case) replacement part!
Makes you want to think. HMMMMMM!
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To me, Luna's acknowledgement was more like a slight turn of the head in passing, oh hi! (gees I gotta get out a here)
Nice fix Mr. O. Funny how OEM's rush to get vehicles out of the factory for sale, but suddenly have the wonderful, updated with improved quality (hose in this case) replacement part!
Makes you want to think. HMMMMMM!
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David
The only way this makes sense to me is if the cold contracts the hose just enough to cause a small leak in that fitting but somehow reseals itself at normal operating temps.
Seeing that they changed to a better hose on the new part reinforces the idea that they knew they had a bad time of things with that part.
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The only way this makes sense to me is if the cold contracts the hose just enough to cause a small leak in that fitting but somehow reseals itself at normal operating temps.
Seeing that they changed to a better hose on the new part reinforces the idea that they knew they had a bad time of things with that part.
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Bowhunters
I've used Crows Feet on long extensions when working on hydraulic lines up inside the fuselage and inside wings on aircraft, they enable you to reach up inside to loosen or tighten B-nuts where you have no clearance or way to reach up inside with your arms. Must have tools on aircraft and vehicles for sure!
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I've used Crows Feet on long extensions when working on hydraulic lines up inside the fuselage and inside wings on aircraft, they enable you to reach up inside to loosen or tighten B-nuts where you have no clearance or way to reach up inside with your arms. Must have tools on aircraft and vehicles for sure!
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Combat
Not positive how to write direct to you--Love the stream and how you correct the young bucks how to actually be a mechanic--not a scope or electronics guy because I believe if you know and been trained right you can get the right diagnosis--give a 2000 mechanic a 1960's car and watch him lose everything!
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Not positive how to write direct to you--Love the stream and how you correct the young bucks how to actually be a mechanic--not a scope or electronics guy because I believe if you know and been trained right you can get the right diagnosis--give a 2000 mechanic a 1960's car and watch him lose everything!
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