Are New Cars Too Hard to Repair? WheelHouse
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Date: 2019-10-24
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Indrid Cold
This is on ongoing scare. Everytime vehicles are changed around, it is said people can not work on them. There is no way intelligent people with the desire to fix their car will ever stop fixing their own car. I have everything a working mechanic has, including computer scanners. I did not have to pay for any of it. As I repaired other people's car, I made enough money to buy all the tools and scanners. Today, I can do it all except programme all keys right now. But I am getting a new key machine soon and selling the old one. It is not hard to work on modern cars. It is easier because the computer diagnostic tells you exactly what to change. The space under the bonnet is very limited in many modern cars. Those junk cars can still be serviced. You just jack the body up and lower the engine by undoing two, three, or four, engine mounts. Then it is as easy as any car has ever been. After you are done, you lower the body back onto the engine and reconnect the motor mounts. It is best to avoid purchasing a vehicle with a transverse engine to avoid the limited space to make things easy on you. But just lowering the engine and transmission out fixes the problem of limited space. Avoid hybrids all together. They are problematic just because of the prices of the parts. Either get petrol, diesel, electric, or fuel cell. Forget the hybrids.
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This is on ongoing scare. Everytime vehicles are changed around, it is said people can not work on them. There is no way intelligent people with the desire to fix their car will ever stop fixing their own car. I have everything a working mechanic has, including computer scanners. I did not have to pay for any of it. As I repaired other people's car, I made enough money to buy all the tools and scanners. Today, I can do it all except programme all keys right now. But I am getting a new key machine soon and selling the old one. It is not hard to work on modern cars. It is easier because the computer diagnostic tells you exactly what to change. The space under the bonnet is very limited in many modern cars. Those junk cars can still be serviced. You just jack the body up and lower the engine by undoing two, three, or four, engine mounts. Then it is as easy as any car has ever been. After you are done, you lower the body back onto the engine and reconnect the motor mounts. It is best to avoid purchasing a vehicle with a transverse engine to avoid the limited space to make things easy on you. But just lowering the engine and transmission out fixes the problem of limited space. Avoid hybrids all together. They are problematic just because of the prices of the parts. Either get petrol, diesel, electric, or fuel cell. Forget the hybrids.
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Tactical Domn8tor
Ione Orlando speed dominators. We specialize in coyote and LS swaps. That seems to be the new thing. I've done a lot of them where are the customer dropped the car off and I get the motor and I install, about 100 a yr. I also get about 5 a yr they just couldn't get them to fit right or run right. Even the ones I professionally install from the ground up. The cars come back in toe. For typical reasons. Not once because of my install. It's just a bigger job than people realize. And they always want to save money and do it themselves. pushrod motor or even a modular motor okay. but the new coyote and LS Motors a lot more complicated. and plenty of people have done them and their driveways not saying it can't be done. But eventually they got to come see me for a tune up. But you are definitely correct. The newer model vehicles. What the sensors on the brakes and the ABS not meant a backyard mechanic. I would say after 2010 I've gotten 30% more. I am so busy right now, to where I really don't even do auto repair a lot of it's been installs and fabrication. and tuning. I get some people come twice a year same vehicle, just wanting something added or subtracted
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Ione Orlando speed dominators. We specialize in coyote and LS swaps. That seems to be the new thing. I've done a lot of them where are the customer dropped the car off and I get the motor and I install, about 100 a yr. I also get about 5 a yr they just couldn't get them to fit right or run right. Even the ones I professionally install from the ground up. The cars come back in toe. For typical reasons. Not once because of my install. It's just a bigger job than people realize. And they always want to save money and do it themselves. pushrod motor or even a modular motor okay. but the new coyote and LS Motors a lot more complicated. and plenty of people have done them and their driveways not saying it can't be done. But eventually they got to come see me for a tune up. But you are definitely correct. The newer model vehicles. What the sensors on the brakes and the ABS not meant a backyard mechanic. I would say after 2010 I've gotten 30% more. I am so busy right now, to where I really don't even do auto repair a lot of it's been installs and fabrication. and tuning. I get some people come twice a year same vehicle, just wanting something added or subtracted
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Bob More
I actually enjoy fixing and maintaining my car and caring and maintaining one's own car gives a person a sense of satisfaction that comes with ownership. Car manufacturers know that car repair industry is a huge market which is why the average car is made only to last 8 years now. I personally drive a 2002 Rav4 and the car still runs perfect even after 17 years and the Rav4 still has the original exhaust as well. So car manufactures are able to make cars that can last 20 years with minimal maintenance but making a vehicle that can last 20 years isn't profitable for auto manufacturers. and car manufacturers are just getting greedier and greedier year by year. If a person can't check their windshield washer fluid and tire pressure once a month then these people don't even deserve to own a car. When the engine light comes on because of low windshield washer fluid that is really only another way to scam car owners into taking their car in for service. Everyone knows that 99% of the automotive service centers lie to their customers because servicing cars is just another business to rape the consumer and their wallets.
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I actually enjoy fixing and maintaining my car and caring and maintaining one's own car gives a person a sense of satisfaction that comes with ownership. Car manufacturers know that car repair industry is a huge market which is why the average car is made only to last 8 years now. I personally drive a 2002 Rav4 and the car still runs perfect even after 17 years and the Rav4 still has the original exhaust as well. So car manufactures are able to make cars that can last 20 years with minimal maintenance but making a vehicle that can last 20 years isn't profitable for auto manufacturers. and car manufacturers are just getting greedier and greedier year by year. If a person can't check their windshield washer fluid and tire pressure once a month then these people don't even deserve to own a car. When the engine light comes on because of low windshield washer fluid that is really only another way to scam car owners into taking their car in for service. Everyone knows that 99% of the automotive service centers lie to their customers because servicing cars is just another business to rape the consumer and their wallets.
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TheRumbles13
Newer cars are actually easier to work on than old 80s and 90s vehicles. The introduction of the DLC port in 97 brought in fault codes that tell you either a sympton or the fault itself. Couple that with the ease of diagnosis and how to videos and information on YT and google, i woul say its easier now then everModern vehicles are moe modular, meaning that multiple pieces or parts are combined into one, this can make disassembling more difficult and costly. As a mechanic I only buy older vehicles, due to low parts cost, low insurance, little or no payments. And also as a mechanic the majority of what i fix is 10 years or less old. I feel sorry for people stuck in car loans for vehicles they've been conditioned to desire whether by advertising or social constructs. People laugh at my old truck when i drive by, but unbeknownst to them my truck is in better running condition then theirs and it costs me little to nothing every year. As an added plus, no one wants to steal it. Buy old cars people Personally i stick to late 80s through 90s toyotas.
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Newer cars are actually easier to work on than old 80s and 90s vehicles. The introduction of the DLC port in 97 brought in fault codes that tell you either a sympton or the fault itself. Couple that with the ease of diagnosis and how to videos and information on YT and google, i woul say its easier now then everModern vehicles are moe modular, meaning that multiple pieces or parts are combined into one, this can make disassembling more difficult and costly. As a mechanic I only buy older vehicles, due to low parts cost, low insurance, little or no payments. And also as a mechanic the majority of what i fix is 10 years or less old. I feel sorry for people stuck in car loans for vehicles they've been conditioned to desire whether by advertising or social constructs. People laugh at my old truck when i drive by, but unbeknownst to them my truck is in better running condition then theirs and it costs me little to nothing every year. As an added plus, no one wants to steal it. Buy old cars people Personally i stick to late 80s through 90s toyotas.
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Garryd Hintz
It's not as much about wanting to work on your own car. It's more about needing to do what it takes to go from a 2 b. If you don't have the money to pay a mechanic your only hope is to be able to make your own repairs. Thankfully I have a set of tools and a garage to wrench in if I need. The more complex the car gets the more mechanical knowledge and special tools it takes to fix things. One thing to bare in mind is that car companies don't care if you can't fix their car. They have their techs to service them until the warranty runs up then they expect the owner to buy another new car. It's the rinse wash repeat cycle and a big factor on why cars break down and become worthless later on. And States like California do everything in their power to screw people who drive older cars to force them off the road. The CA dmv is the absolute most corrupt bs agency in the contry. Just look at all the red tape and outrageous fees they burden people with and look how impossible it is to fight them. It's just a big crap chute guys.
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It's not as much about wanting to work on your own car. It's more about needing to do what it takes to go from a 2 b. If you don't have the money to pay a mechanic your only hope is to be able to make your own repairs. Thankfully I have a set of tools and a garage to wrench in if I need. The more complex the car gets the more mechanical knowledge and special tools it takes to fix things. One thing to bare in mind is that car companies don't care if you can't fix their car. They have their techs to service them until the warranty runs up then they expect the owner to buy another new car. It's the rinse wash repeat cycle and a big factor on why cars break down and become worthless later on. And States like California do everything in their power to screw people who drive older cars to force them off the road. The CA dmv is the absolute most corrupt bs agency in the contry. Just look at all the red tape and outrageous fees they burden people with and look how impossible it is to fight them. It's just a big crap chute guys.
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Matt DuGuay
I feel one major issue when it comes to self maintenance on cars is the heavy warranty cycle manufacturers have created for newer cars. New cars are coming with more and more comprehensive and hassle free warranties that have strict guidelines. We all know someone who refuses to let anyone else fix their car, and on new cars if you don't let dealerships or certified mechanics take care of everything that goes wrong aside from oil changes and tire rotations (and I'm sure some even have rules about that) you are SCREWED if you work on the car and can't fix something yourself. With information and teaching tools improving and becoming more streamlined the reliance on warranties seems to be getting less severe as time goes on, but there has definitely been effort on the side of manufacturers to make maintaining their cars THEIR jobs and NOT the drivers'.
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I feel one major issue when it comes to self maintenance on cars is the heavy warranty cycle manufacturers have created for newer cars. New cars are coming with more and more comprehensive and hassle free warranties that have strict guidelines. We all know someone who refuses to let anyone else fix their car, and on new cars if you don't let dealerships or certified mechanics take care of everything that goes wrong aside from oil changes and tire rotations (and I'm sure some even have rules about that) you are SCREWED if you work on the car and can't fix something yourself. With information and teaching tools improving and becoming more streamlined the reliance on warranties seems to be getting less severe as time goes on, but there has definitely been effort on the side of manufacturers to make maintaining their cars THEIR jobs and NOT the drivers'.
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Cyn Hicks
Before I even watch this I'm gonna say not as long as we leave mechanics out of the design. Early cars were designed by them and therefore easily repaired. These days specialized engineers and even artists design cars. For whom wouldn't even know how to change the oil in many much less replace a starter motor or control arm. Almost didn't give up my late 90s Camry after 380, 000, 000 miles just because changing the filter was done on top easier than the air filter by far FOR REAL and the oil itself was only a little harder because it required getting on the ground. Problem was it was losing compression fast and by 420, 000, 000sh would've needed heavier labor to repair if I wanted to have safe power.
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Before I even watch this I'm gonna say not as long as we leave mechanics out of the design. Early cars were designed by them and therefore easily repaired. These days specialized engineers and even artists design cars. For whom wouldn't even know how to change the oil in many much less replace a starter motor or control arm. Almost didn't give up my late 90s Camry after 380, 000, 000 miles just because changing the filter was done on top easier than the air filter by far FOR REAL and the oil itself was only a little harder because it required getting on the ground. Problem was it was losing compression fast and by 420, 000, 000sh would've needed heavier labor to repair if I wanted to have safe power.
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Robert Smith
Making an old thing last a long time can be very important. However, given the criticalness of a device working correctly one might feel safer in a new version. Especially Planes or flying vehicles for example. And for example in land vehicles, you wouldn't (for example) want your steering going out on a two-way highway just because some critical part failed and there wasn't any practical way to detect it's failure. Consider that in one show a B-29 bomber that landed/crashed in the north (Alaska I think) was given new engines/propellers and prepared to fly out after 40-50 years: it burned up taxing to take off as an old generator caught on fire.
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Making an old thing last a long time can be very important. However, given the criticalness of a device working correctly one might feel safer in a new version. Especially Planes or flying vehicles for example. And for example in land vehicles, you wouldn't (for example) want your steering going out on a two-way highway just because some critical part failed and there wasn't any practical way to detect it's failure. Consider that in one show a B-29 bomber that landed/crashed in the north (Alaska I think) was given new engines/propellers and prepared to fly out after 40-50 years: it burned up taxing to take off as an old generator caught on fire.
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cloud chaser
Engines now a days have a bunch of plastic covers and are manufactured to where if you don't own a lift or some way to raise the car off the ground can't get to basic components like spark plugs and oil filters. And there are places that do basic maintenance at almost the same price as going to auto -one and buying the oil and everything else needed. So if I can just pay someone 5 bucks extra to do that for me in 10 minutes where it takes me 20 to 30 plus cursing cutting up my knuckles and dropping the drain plug in the oil and having the search for it in the oil I'd rather just have somebody else do it for five more bucks.
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Engines now a days have a bunch of plastic covers and are manufactured to where if you don't own a lift or some way to raise the car off the ground can't get to basic components like spark plugs and oil filters. And there are places that do basic maintenance at almost the same price as going to auto -one and buying the oil and everything else needed. So if I can just pay someone 5 bucks extra to do that for me in 10 minutes where it takes me 20 to 30 plus cursing cutting up my knuckles and dropping the drain plug in the oil and having the search for it in the oil I'd rather just have somebody else do it for five more bucks.
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Kevin Douglas
A better term for the new stuff is garbage The biggest problem with the new cars is inaccessible components. Requiring many hours labor and special tools to do what should be simple repairs. This is not high tech, it's bad engineering. Another example of bad engineering is the dangerous and problematic touch screen dash. They're distracting and cause a lot of accidents. From a mechanical perspective nothing good can come from wiring the entire car through what is really the equivalent of the radio. Sure you like this crap now you can change at least a thousand dollars for what used to be a fifty dollar job.
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A better term for the new stuff is garbage The biggest problem with the new cars is inaccessible components. Requiring many hours labor and special tools to do what should be simple repairs. This is not high tech, it's bad engineering. Another example of bad engineering is the dangerous and problematic touch screen dash. They're distracting and cause a lot of accidents. From a mechanical perspective nothing good can come from wiring the entire car through what is really the equivalent of the radio. Sure you like this crap now you can change at least a thousand dollars for what used to be a fifty dollar job.
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