Why People Are Freaking Out About Ariana Grande, Marcus Hyde, Kim Kardashian, Facebook, & More
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Date: 2019-11-01
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Christopher Thomas
For me, personally, I'm finding more and more that I want to remove myself from applications and platforms that harvest my data; hopefully by the end of the year, I'll be off of almost all of the major platforms and apps that use me as their product. Now that I have a 2 year old, that awareness of privacy concerns has only become heightened. I think that the average person does care, or would if the information were given to them in an easy-to-understand way. I think the reason that the average person seems to not care is that they just really don't even know what these apps and platforms are allowed to do. I think that it's also hard to resist using platforms that all of your friends and family use; it's hard to go back to letters and emails when you can plop a quick, half-assed Happy Birthday on someone's Facebook timeline. But, maybe that's what we need to do. Until we come up with a more equitable way to fund the sites on the internet, so that we can move away from free things, maybe we all need to take a step back. Because the exchange isn't equal. Facebook gives you nothing you couldn't have by putting in your own effort in different ways. Facebook doesn't give you friends, it only gives you a somewhat easy way to talk to them. Tumblr doesn't give you the ability to blog, it just gives you an easy-to-use interface. And these minor conveniences are traded away to companies that can build inconceivably accurate profiles about people. That's not an equal trade. For the capitalists in the audience, my argument is that these companies are not acting in good faith; the exchange that is occurirng only seems to benefit both parties (ala Milton Friedman) because the companies are not providing the full information and proper context up front in a way that the consumer will understand that they are the good that is being bought and sold.
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For me, personally, I'm finding more and more that I want to remove myself from applications and platforms that harvest my data; hopefully by the end of the year, I'll be off of almost all of the major platforms and apps that use me as their product. Now that I have a 2 year old, that awareness of privacy concerns has only become heightened. I think that the average person does care, or would if the information were given to them in an easy-to-understand way. I think the reason that the average person seems to not care is that they just really don't even know what these apps and platforms are allowed to do. I think that it's also hard to resist using platforms that all of your friends and family use; it's hard to go back to letters and emails when you can plop a quick, half-assed Happy Birthday on someone's Facebook timeline. But, maybe that's what we need to do. Until we come up with a more equitable way to fund the sites on the internet, so that we can move away from free things, maybe we all need to take a step back. Because the exchange isn't equal. Facebook gives you nothing you couldn't have by putting in your own effort in different ways. Facebook doesn't give you friends, it only gives you a somewhat easy way to talk to them. Tumblr doesn't give you the ability to blog, it just gives you an easy-to-use interface. And these minor conveniences are traded away to companies that can build inconceivably accurate profiles about people. That's not an equal trade. For the capitalists in the audience, my argument is that these companies are not acting in good faith; the exchange that is occurirng only seems to benefit both parties (ala Milton Friedman) because the companies are not providing the full information and proper context up front in a way that the consumer will understand that they are the good that is being bought and sold.
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TheWitness
you know what the best part about fines are? lets take FB for example. Privacy Violations against thousands even millions of people (some damaging some not so much. FB Gets fined 5 Billion Dollars. do the people that got violated see a cent of that? nope. You just got violated and the government got paid 5 Billion for it. Will it be used to make sure that it doesn't happen to you again? somewhat. new rules/laws will be put in place with a lot of loopholes and secret go arounds so that when the time is right they can put out another Fee/Penalty. Banks are the best examples of this. in 2018 alone 7 out of the top 10 companies that paid fines were all banks totalling about 12 billion USD (just from the 7 banks fined) all because of Sanction Violations. (for banks it means trading with the enemy or doing business with criminals). that means lives destroyed in some cases. did any of you touch a cent from that 12+BIL USD? of course not the cycle needs to continue. People truly have no idea how much money is being thrown around and wasted.
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you know what the best part about fines are? lets take FB for example. Privacy Violations against thousands even millions of people (some damaging some not so much. FB Gets fined 5 Billion Dollars. do the people that got violated see a cent of that? nope. You just got violated and the government got paid 5 Billion for it. Will it be used to make sure that it doesn't happen to you again? somewhat. new rules/laws will be put in place with a lot of loopholes and secret go arounds so that when the time is right they can put out another Fee/Penalty. Banks are the best examples of this. in 2018 alone 7 out of the top 10 companies that paid fines were all banks totalling about 12 billion USD (just from the 7 banks fined) all because of Sanction Violations. (for banks it means trading with the enemy or doing business with criminals). that means lives destroyed in some cases. did any of you touch a cent from that 12+BIL USD? of course not the cycle needs to continue. People truly have no idea how much money is being thrown around and wasted.
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Nathan Reese
In my opinion, worrying about if some random company gets your email, or full name, seems asinine. Everybody knows that tech/apps/the web will keep evolving and we have to evolve with it. Some people may not agree with the way humans and the world is evolving, but eventually no ones info will be private, because tech will be integrated into are lives so deeply with smart homes, smart cars, etc. Unless we figure out some serious software, able to never be hacked into or anything, are info will get out eventually. And honestly, we should stop worrying so much about our online privacy, and focus more on saving the earth within the next 12 years, and/or helping NASA get us off this planet. TL; DR Stop worrying about yourself, and help US move to SPACE
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In my opinion, worrying about if some random company gets your email, or full name, seems asinine. Everybody knows that tech/apps/the web will keep evolving and we have to evolve with it. Some people may not agree with the way humans and the world is evolving, but eventually no ones info will be private, because tech will be integrated into are lives so deeply with smart homes, smart cars, etc. Unless we figure out some serious software, able to never be hacked into or anything, are info will get out eventually. And honestly, we should stop worrying so much about our online privacy, and focus more on saving the earth within the next 12 years, and/or helping NASA get us off this planet. TL; DR Stop worrying about yourself, and help US move to SPACE
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1337GameDev
13: 38 - I think most people care, under the following stipulations: 1. Somebody doesn't benefit off me that I'm aware of (aside from basic things such as making products more usable / metrics / covering costs)2. That i'm not embarrassed / secrets I want to keep, are kept3. My image / ideas aren't associated with things I dislike4. I'm not being manipulated with my data for monetary gain (most people are ok with small amounts of this though)5. Information they EXPECT to share is shared, BUT information they assume is private (or limited in sharability) is kept privateMost people don't care TOO much aside form those things. Generally, this information doesn't seem to affect many people, so people tend to not care, until it DOES affect them.
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13: 38 - I think most people care, under the following stipulations: 1. Somebody doesn't benefit off me that I'm aware of (aside from basic things such as making products more usable / metrics / covering costs)2. That i'm not embarrassed / secrets I want to keep, are kept3. My image / ideas aren't associated with things I dislike4. I'm not being manipulated with my data for monetary gain (most people are ok with small amounts of this though)5. Information they EXPECT to share is shared, BUT information they assume is private (or limited in sharability) is kept privateMost people don't care TOO much aside form those things. Generally, this information doesn't seem to affect many people, so people tend to not care, until it DOES affect them.
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bloodydove5718
I think the general public cares a lot about their privacy, the general public is just ignorant of how much they're sharing because they're ignorant about being proactive about things they care about in general. I know a lot of people would then ask If they arent more proactive about it, then do they really care, and the answer is yes. When given the option to do or not do something like. sharing your personal email with the whole world, most people would be like No. And we all know thats one of the slightest things thats shared with unknown people throughout most of the online services we use. The problem is. most people are too ignorant and lazy to read the things given to them about the permissions they're allowing.
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I think the general public cares a lot about their privacy, the general public is just ignorant of how much they're sharing because they're ignorant about being proactive about things they care about in general. I know a lot of people would then ask If they arent more proactive about it, then do they really care, and the answer is yes. When given the option to do or not do something like. sharing your personal email with the whole world, most people would be like No. And we all know thats one of the slightest things thats shared with unknown people throughout most of the online services we use. The problem is. most people are too ignorant and lazy to read the things given to them about the permissions they're allowing.
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Eric D
I think that the general public actually does care more about privacy than I do, but mostly because they don't understand what info they are talking about. I personally like the idea of well targeted advertising where I'm only showed ads for things I am actually likely to want rather than being shown an order of magnitude more ads which I am mostly not interested in hopes that one of them is relevant and that requires giving up a little privacy to accomplish but it's only what interests you have and your general location and usually only to an ad platform like google or facebook, not the advertisers themselves. It's only when it becomes predatory or overwhelming do I actually have a problem with it.
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I think that the general public actually does care more about privacy than I do, but mostly because they don't understand what info they are talking about. I personally like the idea of well targeted advertising where I'm only showed ads for things I am actually likely to want rather than being shown an order of magnitude more ads which I am mostly not interested in hopes that one of them is relevant and that requires giving up a little privacy to accomplish but it's only what interests you have and your general location and usually only to an ad platform like google or facebook, not the advertisers themselves. It's only when it becomes predatory or overwhelming do I actually have a problem with it.
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bob jones
What is the legal justification behind individual corporate leaders being able to shield their actions and decisions behind their company? Fining massive multinational corporations is never a good solution, fine them too little and it just becomes part of the cost of doing business, too much and you cripple them and any part of the economy that relies on them doing well. They need to go after the executives who MAKE these decisions if they want to send a real message out about accountability. That way, they can make the fine MUCH larger without fear of damaging the economy, and they even have the option of jail time. Dunno why they don't do this more often.
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What is the legal justification behind individual corporate leaders being able to shield their actions and decisions behind their company? Fining massive multinational corporations is never a good solution, fine them too little and it just becomes part of the cost of doing business, too much and you cripple them and any part of the economy that relies on them doing well. They need to go after the executives who MAKE these decisions if they want to send a real message out about accountability. That way, they can make the fine MUCH larger without fear of damaging the economy, and they even have the option of jail time. Dunno why they don't do this more often.
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BarneyFit
About the photographer I think what he did is disgusting but I also in a way see how it come to be, a photo shoot cost money it supposed to be professional most of these girls wanted the photo shoot for free obviously he was going to expect something in return no I'm not saying what he did is right it was wrong. But also if the woman felt uncomfortable just because of the text I don't understand why they would do a photoshoot alone with him they can always ask someone to be there by them side and they have a right to say Nolan to stop and walk away whenever they don't have to see them self forced to do anything
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About the photographer I think what he did is disgusting but I also in a way see how it come to be, a photo shoot cost money it supposed to be professional most of these girls wanted the photo shoot for free obviously he was going to expect something in return no I'm not saying what he did is right it was wrong. But also if the woman felt uncomfortable just because of the text I don't understand why they would do a photoshoot alone with him they can always ask someone to be there by them side and they have a right to say Nolan to stop and walk away whenever they don't have to see them self forced to do anything
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Ricky Carleton
I care about privacy, but also understand that there's some risk you can't get away from. I don't have a Facebook or Twitter acct, but I do use Google services (obviously. There's always a balance, you get to pick and choose who you partner with when it comes to your data. I think the ability to gather data on friends of the app users was a step beyond what most people expect when they put data on any platform, though, it takes the choice away from the person posing the data and puts it in the hands of many people that don't have the same concerns as privacy conscious individuals.
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I care about privacy, but also understand that there's some risk you can't get away from. I don't have a Facebook or Twitter acct, but I do use Google services (obviously. There's always a balance, you get to pick and choose who you partner with when it comes to your data. I think the ability to gather data on friends of the app users was a step beyond what most people expect when they put data on any platform, though, it takes the choice away from the person posing the data and puts it in the hands of many people that don't have the same concerns as privacy conscious individuals.
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