How Much Land Did Europeans Really Discover?
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The word discovery does not mean that the Spanish were the first people to arrive in America; many others could have arrived earlier, but would have kept the discovery to themselves. It is true that the Vikings went from Greenland to Newfoundland, but they did not know where they had arrived. They neither knew nor imagined that they had discovered a new continent, since they lacked the necessary scientific knowledge to know what the world was like. Spain did publish the imprecise knowledge of the existence of lands beyond the great sea that the Vikings had possessed and they were not interested in disclosing. That is why it can be said with propriety that Spain did discover America.
The same can be said of the arguments that suggest that there were already people inhabiting the continent, and therefore it was already discovered. But these people did not know where they were in relation to the rest of the world. It is at the moment in which the coast and the continents are mapped that the new lands are discovered. Discovering and knowing the continents is knowing where they are geographically one from the other and being able to measure it.
And so, I give thumbs down, for its scientific imprecision and misinformation. Though the format of the videos is pretty cool.
Date: 2023-12-14
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-MartimCorreia10
7: 08 theres some misconceptions in this video, the Portuguese discovered and established trade post all over the coast of Africa, we discovered new fouldland and Labrador (Terra Nova e labrador, we discovered and knew about the americas before colombus, we invented the man o wars, caravels, galleons and all those ships, we invented all the navegation instruments and we had the best army and crushed, Indian sultunates, the venetians and the ottomans with only 10 ships in the battle of Diu, we were the first to trade with Japan and the firsts to establish trade post in India via a maritime route and in southeast Asia in general, if it wasn't for us the word would be a lot different
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7: 08 theres some misconceptions in this video, the Portuguese discovered and established trade post all over the coast of Africa, we discovered new fouldland and Labrador (Terra Nova e labrador, we discovered and knew about the americas before colombus, we invented the man o wars, caravels, galleons and all those ships, we invented all the navegation instruments and we had the best army and crushed, Indian sultunates, the venetians and the ottomans with only 10 ships in the battle of Diu, we were the first to trade with Japan and the firsts to establish trade post in India via a maritime route and in southeast Asia in general, if it wasn't for us the word would be a lot different
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-halldorherm
It would've been neat to keep Canada, or at least a large chunk of it as an Icelandic colony instead of just leaving. Shame aboot that. But there's a settlement in Manitoba called New Iceland, so I guess that's something
-Edit- Had to mention this, but the bit about the Irish monks discovering Iceland is, at best a -controversial theory-. The earliest known records mentioning the monks was written some 260 years after the Norse settled in 874, and there have been no conclusive archaeological findings to support this. And, no I don't have anything against Irish monks -
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It would've been neat to keep Canada, or at least a large chunk of it as an Icelandic colony instead of just leaving. Shame aboot that. But there's a settlement in Manitoba called New Iceland, so I guess that's something
-Edit- Had to mention this, but the bit about the Irish monks discovering Iceland is, at best a -controversial theory-. The earliest known records mentioning the monks was written some 260 years after the Norse settled in 874, and there have been no conclusive archaeological findings to support this. And, no I don't have anything against Irish monks -
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-n0validusername
Nearly all of these places have been discovered and forgotten many times long before any Europeans landed on any of them. Zero (or closer to it) is the most likely correct answer to the title question. The title really should read -How much land did Europeans rediscover? - After the Anthropocene passes along here shortly, the record will be stricken (again, the knowledge lost (again, and people will find them and give them all new names (again.
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Nearly all of these places have been discovered and forgotten many times long before any Europeans landed on any of them. Zero (or closer to it) is the most likely correct answer to the title question. The title really should read -How much land did Europeans rediscover? - After the Anthropocene passes along here shortly, the record will be stricken (again, the knowledge lost (again, and people will find them and give them all new names (again.
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reallifelore
The Europeans weren-t late to global exploration. Once the populations migrated out of Africa they weren-t in contact with each other, so many forgot or never knew what or where people went. The Europeans may not have -discovered- virgin uninhabited soil, but they made first contact with many isolated and circumnavigated the earth. I-d hardly say they were late to the game because they were geographically far away from East Asia.
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The Europeans weren-t late to global exploration. Once the populations migrated out of Africa they weren-t in contact with each other, so many forgot or never knew what or where people went. The Europeans may not have -discovered- virgin uninhabited soil, but they made first contact with many isolated and circumnavigated the earth. I-d hardly say they were late to the game because they were geographically far away from East Asia.
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-ejun251
I think the way you phrase it doesn't really make sense in the beginning. You have a great point that a lot of the places Europe -discovered- had already been found and settled by other humans, Europe was definitely not -late to the party- as you put it. The Europeans was early in world exploration from the perspective of amassing knowledge about the world at large, they just weren't the first to get there.
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I think the way you phrase it doesn't really make sense in the beginning. You have a great point that a lot of the places Europe -discovered- had already been found and settled by other humans, Europe was definitely not -late to the party- as you put it. The Europeans was early in world exploration from the perspective of amassing knowledge about the world at large, they just weren't the first to get there.
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-quito787
I am glad you mentioned this plain fact: a fair bit of so called European discoveries they just grabbed it from the initial settlers who were already there. It's like playing No Man's Sky and -discovering- a planet but when you land there's already a bunch of aliens in some settlement, and some sentinels too, but the game credits you with the discovery lol.
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I am glad you mentioned this plain fact: a fair bit of so called European discoveries they just grabbed it from the initial settlers who were already there. It's like playing No Man's Sky and -discovering- a planet but when you land there's already a bunch of aliens in some settlement, and some sentinels too, but the game credits you with the discovery lol.
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-levida4032
isn't the injustice clearly visible when you see that how europeans stole the land from the original inhabitants of the land like USA(red indians, Australia(aborigines, newzealand(maori)and many more. since then the natives of the land have been marginalised and left to none. Still the west tries to teach others human rights lmao hypocrisy on its peak.
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isn't the injustice clearly visible when you see that how europeans stole the land from the original inhabitants of the land like USA(red indians, Australia(aborigines, newzealand(maori)and many more. since then the natives of the land have been marginalised and left to none. Still the west tries to teach others human rights lmao hypocrisy on its peak.
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-joshuamonroy2779
Idk what-s people-s urge to discredit European accomplishments. Like, let-s be honest, what were any of these places before the Europeans? Nothing. In short, The Europeans did in fact discovered places such as south and North America for humanity, who you said had discovered them before were nothing but savages that walk in two legs.
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Idk what-s people-s urge to discredit European accomplishments. Like, let-s be honest, what were any of these places before the Europeans? Nothing. In short, The Europeans did in fact discovered places such as south and North America for humanity, who you said had discovered them before were nothing but savages that walk in two legs.
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reallifelore
2: 28 that's a very disingenuous statement.
Sure europeans weren't the first to discover everything but none of the peoples mentioned were -global- explorers.
They lived around where they were born like everyone else, europeans were very much the first people to travel to multiple continents on opposite sides of the globe.
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2: 28 that's a very disingenuous statement.
Sure europeans weren't the first to discover everything but none of the peoples mentioned were -global- explorers.
They lived around where they were born like everyone else, europeans were very much the first people to travel to multiple continents on opposite sides of the globe.
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-IlmarKiisk
What Europeans could also claim for sure is discovering most ship routes, creating connections between inhabited (and some uniinhabited) lands. And to say that -Europeans were late to the game- is also dishonest, as most (Polynesians being one of few exceptions) were unaware of most lands beyond they themselves inhabited.
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What Europeans could also claim for sure is discovering most ship routes, creating connections between inhabited (and some uniinhabited) lands. And to say that -Europeans were late to the game- is also dishonest, as most (Polynesians being one of few exceptions) were unaware of most lands beyond they themselves inhabited.
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-trismegistus2881
The problem with this definition of the word 'discovery' is that you are basically saying that Howard Carter never 'discovered' the Tomb of Tutankhamun in 1922. How could he? It was built by Ancient Egyptians thousands of years before! Clearly, this definition of 'discovery' does not work.
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The problem with this definition of the word 'discovery' is that you are basically saying that Howard Carter never 'discovered' the Tomb of Tutankhamun in 1922. How could he? It was built by Ancient Egyptians thousands of years before! Clearly, this definition of 'discovery' does not work.
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-SmartK8
By Columbus discovered America it is meant he discovered it from the point of Europe in 1492. Because it was written by Europeans. Why would Europeans wrote it from the point of someone else than themselves? So Columbus did discovered America (from the point of Europe.
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By Columbus discovered America it is meant he discovered it from the point of Europe in 1492. Because it was written by Europeans. Why would Europeans wrote it from the point of someone else than themselves? So Columbus did discovered America (from the point of Europe.
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-babiryeethel8582
Very good program. However an edit has to be made because in 2022 Bermuda has, I believe been granted it's independence from the UK.
Btw 1592 is the late 16th century not the late 17th century (regarding the supposed English discovery of the Falklands)
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Very good program. However an edit has to be made because in 2022 Bermuda has, I believe been granted it's independence from the UK.
Btw 1592 is the late 16th century not the late 17th century (regarding the supposed English discovery of the Falklands)
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-sdvarietyshow8335
Dude just skipped over the discovery of the whole continent of Antarctica. Also not to be pedantic but if all the other people can lay claim to their own continents then technically the Europeans also discovered Europe. 2/7 continents ain't too shabby.
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Dude just skipped over the discovery of the whole continent of Antarctica. Also not to be pedantic but if all the other people can lay claim to their own continents then technically the Europeans also discovered Europe. 2/7 continents ain't too shabby.
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-EuroWarsOrg
erm. Scandinavians are European.
In response to your liberal application of white guilt, we could also say, according to your liberal theory that man came from Africa, European ancestors were thus from Africa, so it is all mute.
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erm. Scandinavians are European.
In response to your liberal application of white guilt, we could also say, according to your liberal theory that man came from Africa, European ancestors were thus from Africa, so it is all mute.
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-thesherbet
As a brit, I will be the first to admit, we didn't discover much at all. But it was pretty satisfying seeing the list of places that Portugal and Spain discovered and/or colonised that we shamelessly took for ourselves later lol
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As a brit, I will be the first to admit, we didn't discover much at all. But it was pretty satisfying seeing the list of places that Portugal and Spain discovered and/or colonised that we shamelessly took for ourselves later lol
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-bbrown333
Went on a bus tour of Lisbon, Portugal in 2019. The recorded audio made absolutely no mention of the city's history as the start of the mid-atlantic slave trade and the profit made from that commerce.
The denial is real.
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Went on a bus tour of Lisbon, Portugal in 2019. The recorded audio made absolutely no mention of the city's history as the start of the mid-atlantic slave trade and the profit made from that commerce.
The denial is real.
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-EuroWarsOrg
Mixed race is NOT -ethnically diverse- - it is in fact the destruction of diversity.
To maintain diversity you would have to keep the races separated - that is how diversity works. See how you have been lied to?
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Mixed race is NOT -ethnically diverse- - it is in fact the destruction of diversity.
To maintain diversity you would have to keep the races separated - that is how diversity works. See how you have been lied to?
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-anthonymort5202
I think that the UK should have just returned the Falkland Islands I mean come on it's a small nation in South America you could have just given the islands back but instead I feel like you bullied them
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I think that the UK should have just returned the Falkland Islands I mean come on it's a small nation in South America you could have just given the islands back but instead I feel like you bullied them
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-andrewmccoll1582
Nor had the knowledge of other continents have reached these people. I think the point is to ask who was the first culture to have full knowledge of the world, or the greatest portion of it?
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Nor had the knowledge of other continents have reached these people. I think the point is to ask who was the first culture to have full knowledge of the world, or the greatest portion of it?
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-Juntek1
your opening statement is kinda wrong. id say native americans didnt know about Europe or Africa, Aborigines didnt know about Europe or America etc. Meanwhile Europeans were discovering whole globe.
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your opening statement is kinda wrong. id say native americans didnt know about Europe or Africa, Aborigines didnt know about Europe or America etc. Meanwhile Europeans were discovering whole globe.
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-PickleRick65
Over 2 minutes in and they talk more about the natives.
By Definition, Discovery involves finding out about something you didn't know.
THUS, the Europeans DISCOVERED the New World.
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Over 2 minutes in and they talk more about the natives.
By Definition, Discovery involves finding out about something you didn't know.
THUS, the Europeans DISCOVERED the New World.
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-alexanderx33
To be fair, non-europeans new about their own lands, but they did not know about the other lands the europeans knew. Europeans were the first to discover how Big the earth really is.
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To be fair, non-europeans new about their own lands, but they did not know about the other lands the europeans knew. Europeans were the first to discover how Big the earth really is.
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-Pekara121
The reason Europeans were so keen on discovering new land was because they were doing shit in their own. It was the last straw and led to modern slavery and colonialism/ imperialism.
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The reason Europeans were so keen on discovering new land was because they were doing shit in their own. It was the last straw and led to modern slavery and colonialism/ imperialism.
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-matty6848
America was discovered centuries before the Europeans landed, but it wasn-t until Europeans landed on the shores of America that the entire history of America would change forever.
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America was discovered centuries before the Europeans landed, but it wasn-t until Europeans landed on the shores of America that the entire history of America would change forever.
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-anthonymort5202
How do you detonate a nuclear bomb and nobody knows it's you that sounds an awfully lot like America right there no we didn't detonate any nuclear bomb what nuclear bomb -
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How do you detonate a nuclear bomb and nobody knows it's you that sounds an awfully lot like America right there no we didn't detonate any nuclear bomb what nuclear bomb -
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-onthisday5859
Disagree! The whole world was divided into small 'worlds'. It was the Europeans who knitted them all together and the places 'discovered' also discovered they weren't alone!
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Disagree! The whole world was divided into small 'worlds'. It was the Europeans who knitted them all together and the places 'discovered' also discovered they weren't alone!
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-erebusmaster
did you know that in 1170 over 300 years before christopher columbus landed on america a welsh prince named madoc owain gwynedd landed on north america and died there.
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did you know that in 1170 over 300 years before christopher columbus landed on america a welsh prince named madoc owain gwynedd landed on north america and died there.
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-barthdry
Actually this is a more truthful video. Yeah people were already there maybe europeans just discovered uninhabited few islands. (Saying before fully watching the video)
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Actually this is a more truthful video. Yeah people were already there maybe europeans just discovered uninhabited few islands. (Saying before fully watching the video)
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