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Picture a perfect society. What does it look like - Joseph Lacey

Picture a perfect society. What does it look like - Joseph Lacey

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Dig into political philosopher John Rawls’ classic thought experiment about what principles we need to design a fair society. -- A group of strangers have gathered to design a just society. To ensure none of them rig the system, they’ve been placed under a veil of ignorance. Under this veil, they’re blind to information about age, sex, profession, wealth, religion, and so on. Can they build a fair society where everyone has the resources they need Joseph Lacey details John Rawls' classic thought experiment.
Date: 2024-04-19

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There is no perfect or fair society. That's why people should be empowered to escape it. That's the secret to sustainability. People need to be able to defy the herd and go their own way. We are primates before we are humans, and some primates have to wander. The major inherent flaw to every society that has ever existed is the inability for those in it to walk away. In this modern age, that would look like someone who lives in a city leaving it to start a small family dirt farm, and not having to earn the right to survive. At the bottom of society's pyramid are people who never earn their way in society, and never will. They should have a fair and reasonable means of escaping society's trappings. As it sits they are beasts of burden.
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Thing is, if just the mere thought of doing something better than others drives someone then inequality and many other problems will prevail, we may make food available to everyone but if things like taste matter then someone will have to be marginalized. I think inequality is bad only if the next generation gets severely unprivileged as sometimes it is these hardships that make us learn new things and with time those who were rich earlier, will find their coming generation not prevail. So the society kinda becomes a pendulum between different sets of people.
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Yeah, the graphics are cool and fun to watch, but in my opinion they are disctracting the viewer from the narrative. It would be better video if the graphics helped the viewer understand and visualize discussed topic instead of making it more difficult.
I saw the comment saying I had to watch it twice. [. ] like it was a good thing. I am happy that this person found it so entertaining, but it proves my point that graphics are the opposite of helpful here.

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I really wanted to watch this but the visuals are so abstract that they are just distracting from the information that is spoken. So I closed my eyes and tried to just listen. But then there are all the bloops and bleeps of the visuals that is equally distracting. Maybe this is just a me problem. Maybe it's ADD. I've never had to give up on a video I wanted to watch before because of distractions in the video.
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an issue i have with Rawls is he fails to address the ideas of David Hume, and blindly accepts that there is a fundemental you behind social and ideological influences.
also this entire video fails to address the greatest critique of Rawls, that of Marxists. I consider myself primairly a social democrat, but Marxism has some really important critiques which were simply unaddressed by the likes of Rawl.

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Here me out. we make a fleet of the ship from Wall-E, enough for everybody and live there. Perfectly equal society. Or and this is probably more realistic, we end the practice of trickle down economics, apply rubber banding to wealth, close all tax loopholes, and end the normalising of workarounds with insanely high fines that divide wealth of the fraudsters to a high fraction if they try to cheat the system.
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That utopia relies on heavy state control while also being a democracy while also still being capitalist, basically it believes that a utopia can be done today without changing anything of our material conditions and hoping it works by ideas alone and the famously infinite benevolence of our rulers this is truly just a thought experiment, and a very unimaginative one at that.
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Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a tested stone, \ the precious cornerstone of a sure foundation. \ No one exercising faith will panic. \ And I will make justice the measuring line \ and righteousness the leveling tool. \ The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, \ and the waters will flood out the hiding place.
(Isaiah 28: 16, 17)

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This philosophy is idealistic. In the real world, we all know who we are. That's why industry tycoons and politicians will use their power to keep the status quo, because they know exactly what benefits them.
But what if they didn't even know their own religious beliefs! 1 bla bla bla, you're lost in the world of thoughts and ideas.

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So this guy just describes the most basic and generic characteristics of any social democracy and calls it a utopia
His points are not only redundant and were already being applied int he 1970's, but also have been proven to fail and do not create anything close to an ideal society (at least, not fot the majority of the world.

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Building from the ground up is easy but changing existing structures is hard. People don't want to be told that they're not special, and the 10 years they spent growing 1 million dollars to 2 million dollars wasn't hard and most people could do it if they started with 1 million dollars and it wasn't hard work that got them there.
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A place where you don't know the people's age and gender seems like a disaster. How many elementary schools should we build How many colleges How many nursing homes How do people reproduce if they don't know their parners age and gender XD
From an economic perspective this theory is pure insanity.

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Why does it need to be framed as the natural solution theoretically unbiased people would come to
It’s just his opinion on how he thinks society should be organised. Making assumptions about the behaviour of unbiased people is impossible as any real person is thinking from a biased perspective.

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A map of the world that does not include Utopia is not worth even glancing at, for it leaves out the one country at which Humanity is always landing. And when Humanity lands there, it looks out, and, seeing a better country, sets sail. Progress is the realisation of Utopias.
Oscar Wilde.

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Human nature is destructive so I think an utopia is impossible. Beacuse humans will build one and then destroy that to create a new yet similar to the one before. In the end it's humane nature that deprives us from an utopia. This is my opinion. I don't know if I'm right.
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Free education or at least good quality and cheaper education along with cheaper medical care would be my version of Utopia in this world. I know places in the west have it but its not everywhere. Either the quality of education and health care is sub par or they're expensive.
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There is no perfect society as it is not a static thing in a static environment, therefore the perfect society would be one where it can reshape to be 'better' from its perspective and every part and individual in it holds weight in that reshaping.
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blud had to create this whole thought experiment just to describe policies marxists have been wanting forever.
the thought experiment is nice, unintellectual dismissal of a whole school of thought from stereotypes not so much.

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That is just an overthinked gimmick on top of a well done welfare state.
But is not wrong, to me at least, much of our solutions run around not pursuing equality, but rather justice, so, not a ceiling, but a floor, a base

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Americans when they hear the word utopia or equality, they jump to conclusions, and they answer communism they are so mentality, braind washed by their government that can't even envision something better than capitalism
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