What if Communism Never Existed?
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Communism is a stateless, classless and moneyless society. The closest we've had to that was revolutionary Catalonia from 1936-1939.
Date: 2022-07-15
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Gull
If you consider professor Richard Wolff's distinction between Marxism (critique of what capitalism does wrong with intent of discussing how you could do better) vs most Communism implementations, it kind of boils down to communism being based off taking Marx' critiques to the extreme and then implementing them in a dictatorial fashion.
I'd argue if you use a soft touch to reform (more historic pure, aristocratic- or anarcho-) capitalism to some extent rather than radically revolutionizing states into communism, you probably get something more like the Scandinavian constitutional democracies or monarchies of today. So yes, the communists may have grown out from Marx' train of thought, but they took the ball and ran much further even going extremist with an implementation of it, which i think making the distinction between Marx and Communism is fair.
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If you consider professor Richard Wolff's distinction between Marxism (critique of what capitalism does wrong with intent of discussing how you could do better) vs most Communism implementations, it kind of boils down to communism being based off taking Marx' critiques to the extreme and then implementing them in a dictatorial fashion.
I'd argue if you use a soft touch to reform (more historic pure, aristocratic- or anarcho-) capitalism to some extent rather than radically revolutionizing states into communism, you probably get something more like the Scandinavian constitutional democracies or monarchies of today. So yes, the communists may have grown out from Marx' train of thought, but they took the ball and ran much further even going extremist with an implementation of it, which i think making the distinction between Marx and Communism is fair.
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DimitryWasntTaken
The 100 million people is a number that is taken from the black book of communism, the main guy writing it was obsessed with getting to 100 million, Soviet archives reveal that Stalin killed much less people, you separated Western colonialism from capitalism and the slave trade is not the only thing that can be attributed to the deaths of capitalism, so many people die from disease, hunger and dehydration even though we produce enough food to feed those people but it's not profitable because they can't pay for it due to western countries overexploiting them, a report that the CIA approved has shown that citizens of communist consumed more calories per day than citizens of western countries (so much for the no food meme, communism values human lives more than profit so that's why the gdp per capita is lower,
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The 100 million people is a number that is taken from the black book of communism, the main guy writing it was obsessed with getting to 100 million, Soviet archives reveal that Stalin killed much less people, you separated Western colonialism from capitalism and the slave trade is not the only thing that can be attributed to the deaths of capitalism, so many people die from disease, hunger and dehydration even though we produce enough food to feed those people but it's not profitable because they can't pay for it due to western countries overexploiting them, a report that the CIA approved has shown that citizens of communist consumed more calories per day than citizens of western countries (so much for the no food meme, communism values human lives more than profit so that's why the gdp per capita is lower,
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Jason
I think China would be a much bigger factor. Japanese expansion and conflict would have happened, but possibly direct western support for China could have occurred. While Chiang Kai Shek was a Methodist, and Christianity was a rapidly growing movement in China, you could have seen a very different kind of China show up post Sino-Japanese war. Where it would have had a more reasonable mediation between the countryside and metropolises post- war as opposed to the chaos of Mao.
Hell, China could have been put together better before the war in comparison given that the infighting with Mao that collapsed the coalition government wouldnt have occurred.
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I think China would be a much bigger factor. Japanese expansion and conflict would have happened, but possibly direct western support for China could have occurred. While Chiang Kai Shek was a Methodist, and Christianity was a rapidly growing movement in China, you could have seen a very different kind of China show up post Sino-Japanese war. Where it would have had a more reasonable mediation between the countryside and metropolises post- war as opposed to the chaos of Mao.
Hell, China could have been put together better before the war in comparison given that the infighting with Mao that collapsed the coalition government wouldnt have occurred.
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Sebastian
Communism is atheistic, but nazism? No, it's relationship with the christianity is complicated, but it's not really atheistic. Hitler himself stated that he had crushed the atheists, that schools should not be atheist, and Himmler did not want atheists in the SS. That's hardly an atheistic ideology. I wouldn't really call it christian either, but it is far more christian than atheistic. The amount of atheists in Germany were like 2%.
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Communism is atheistic, but nazism? No, it's relationship with the christianity is complicated, but it's not really atheistic. Hitler himself stated that he had crushed the atheists, that schools should not be atheist, and Himmler did not want atheists in the SS. That's hardly an atheistic ideology. I wouldn't really call it christian either, but it is far more christian than atheistic. The amount of atheists in Germany were like 2%.
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dont3
In Portugal CDU is a coalition between Portuguese communist party and the green party.
About the number of deaths on Communism: I think adding people dead on Military conflicts between capitalist and comunists isn't correct since those fights had many other causes, rather than just the Ideology.
Also in 1940 Portugal was Fascit the map you mentioned in the video have that mistake.
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In Portugal CDU is a coalition between Portuguese communist party and the green party.
About the number of deaths on Communism: I think adding people dead on Military conflicts between capitalist and comunists isn't correct since those fights had many other causes, rather than just the Ideology.
Also in 1940 Portugal was Fascit the map you mentioned in the video have that mistake.
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henn1ken
My guy pls dont name the CDU in the same breath as christian socialist movements in latin america. The CDU is a center right party with strong neoliberal beliefs that simply isnt as horrific as the republican party, but from fiscal perspective not even close to anything the cristian socialist movements in latin america resembled. Sry for my bad english; I am German
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My guy pls dont name the CDU in the same breath as christian socialist movements in latin america. The CDU is a center right party with strong neoliberal beliefs that simply isnt as horrific as the republican party, but from fiscal perspective not even close to anything the cristian socialist movements in latin america resembled. Sry for my bad english; I am German
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the
You capitalist imperialism and fascism are literaly capitalist also where did you get you numbers The Black book of communist also if were doing The number game then anachism is The best ideology ever. Another thing communist is the final stage of sosialism so its techically never been achived becouse communist is a STATELESS, MONELESS AND CLASSLESS System.
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You capitalist imperialism and fascism are literaly capitalist also where did you get you numbers The Black book of communist also if were doing The number game then anachism is The best ideology ever. Another thing communist is the final stage of sosialism so its techically never been achived becouse communist is a STATELESS, MONELESS AND CLASSLESS System.
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Tim
Did you just call the CDU socialist!
Wait what!
The CDU is a neoliberal party which pushes for privatisation and always bails out big business.
How can somebody look at that party and come to this conclusion, I just don't get it.
I understand nobody can know everything about anything that is but this statement caused me pain.
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Did you just call the CDU socialist!
Wait what!
The CDU is a neoliberal party which pushes for privatisation and always bails out big business.
How can somebody look at that party and come to this conclusion, I just don't get it.
I understand nobody can know everything about anything that is but this statement caused me pain.
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Sammyfarel
IM not a communist or socialism i am an anti comunist because they kill my great grandfather in indonesia in 1927 but i think communism was Anto colonialism ang anti corruption anti dictatorship but Stalin and Mao is not communist because they are not following Karl Marx idea
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IM not a communist or socialism i am an anti comunist because they kill my great grandfather in indonesia in 1927 but i think communism was Anto colonialism ang anti corruption anti dictatorship but Stalin and Mao is not communist because they are not following Karl Marx idea
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