LGR - What DOS PC Should You Buy?
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Date: 2022-04-14
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ajschot
I have a Compaq deskpro p2-266 64mb ram and a ati rage 3d, sb live, and for portable gaming a dell inspiron 8100 p3 (384mb ram)and turned all speed options down and also have a pentium 133mhz 16mb ram in a toshiba 710cdt which is also great! I am looking for an older one having a ps/2 model 50 to clean up but missing a harddrive so i have to work on disks because a disk is hard to find and way to expensive. I reallly am so mad about myself bringing my old pc-s (pentium 75 with voodoo1, sb16) to the recycling couple of years ago, yeah we lived in a small apartment and we were just getting out first baby so i had to clean up space. i hope someone is very happy with that system!
Well now i hope to get one day a disk or mca solution for my ps2 50 or find a board and case for my 486dx2 that i have still somewhere here.
But i first have to try my new found thing tomorrow. a toshiba 430cdt! I hope the sound is better then the 710cdt but we will see!
On the dell is the problem that it is too new so no good native drivers for the maestro 3 soundcard on the other hand the geforce2 that is in there is great also for old games.
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I have a Compaq deskpro p2-266 64mb ram and a ati rage 3d, sb live, and for portable gaming a dell inspiron 8100 p3 (384mb ram)and turned all speed options down and also have a pentium 133mhz 16mb ram in a toshiba 710cdt which is also great! I am looking for an older one having a ps/2 model 50 to clean up but missing a harddrive so i have to work on disks because a disk is hard to find and way to expensive. I reallly am so mad about myself bringing my old pc-s (pentium 75 with voodoo1, sb16) to the recycling couple of years ago, yeah we lived in a small apartment and we were just getting out first baby so i had to clean up space. i hope someone is very happy with that system!
Well now i hope to get one day a disk or mca solution for my ps2 50 or find a board and case for my 486dx2 that i have still somewhere here.
But i first have to try my new found thing tomorrow. a toshiba 430cdt! I hope the sound is better then the 710cdt but we will see!
On the dell is the problem that it is too new so no good native drivers for the maestro 3 soundcard on the other hand the geforce2 that is in there is great also for old games.
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Roller
I got a Pentium II - 400Mhz PC with a VooDoo 3 2000 PC for free from a friend because they didn't need it. It runs almost every DOS game i throw at it either through 98SE or a pure DOS boot. The games that don't run can be made to run through the magic of Throttle and MoSlo. The one downside of it is the Sound Blaster Live! and its very displeasing Sound Blaster 16 emulation. It originally (Using the drivers provided by creative themselves) sounded like xylophones falling off walls for the Duke Nukem 3D theme, but 3rd party drivers solved the issue somewhat. Now there are random clicks and beeps in the OPL3 sounds, but it generally sounds good otherwise.
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I got a Pentium II - 400Mhz PC with a VooDoo 3 2000 PC for free from a friend because they didn't need it. It runs almost every DOS game i throw at it either through 98SE or a pure DOS boot. The games that don't run can be made to run through the magic of Throttle and MoSlo. The one downside of it is the Sound Blaster Live! and its very displeasing Sound Blaster 16 emulation. It originally (Using the drivers provided by creative themselves) sounded like xylophones falling off walls for the Duke Nukem 3D theme, but 3rd party drivers solved the issue somewhat. Now there are random clicks and beeps in the OPL3 sounds, but it generally sounds good otherwise.
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Munk451
I agree. DOSBox is a very cheap alternative, and it usually comes bundled with all games that are on GOG that are needing of it. Personally, id still like to use a system with Win95 or 98SE with at least a PIII 500 and 128-256MB RAM to play the classic windows games as such. For the older DOS games, I feel that a 486DX4 100Mhz with 8MB RAM on DOS 6 does the trick too, even with the slowdown software. Unfortunately, I had to donate those computers due to space constraints. To each gamer his own.
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I agree. DOSBox is a very cheap alternative, and it usually comes bundled with all games that are on GOG that are needing of it. Personally, id still like to use a system with Win95 or 98SE with at least a PIII 500 and 128-256MB RAM to play the classic windows games as such. For the older DOS games, I feel that a 486DX4 100Mhz with 8MB RAM on DOS 6 does the trick too, even with the slowdown software. Unfortunately, I had to donate those computers due to space constraints. To each gamer his own.
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Code1D10T
I'm currently resurrecting an old 486 DX 33MHz machine, that's using a Tseng 1mb card, sound blaster 16 CT2290, and 8MB of 30-pin sodimm ram.
Thinking of swapping out the 486 DX 33 with am AM5x86 133MHz cpu, bump up the ram to 32MB, switch the SB 16 with an AWE32 CT2790, and grab an ATI Mach64 2MB card.
Only thing I had to do was to solder off an old, nearly leaking ni-cad battery. Had to clean the hell out of the area it was on, and test the leads with a prob. damn those ni-cads.
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I'm currently resurrecting an old 486 DX 33MHz machine, that's using a Tseng 1mb card, sound blaster 16 CT2290, and 8MB of 30-pin sodimm ram.
Thinking of swapping out the 486 DX 33 with am AM5x86 133MHz cpu, bump up the ram to 32MB, switch the SB 16 with an AWE32 CT2790, and grab an ATI Mach64 2MB card.
Only thing I had to do was to solder off an old, nearly leaking ni-cad battery. Had to clean the hell out of the area it was on, and test the leads with a prob. damn those ni-cads.
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Nocito87
I have a crush on the 486 generation. There are some fine processors, which came out at the end of this era around 1995. For example, i got an AMD X5-133 overclocked to 160MHz. Best 486 cpu i ever had. Coupled with a Matrox Millenium and a SB AWE32. Good DOS Machine. Playing like back in the days! I also had a Pentium III for DOS games, but for me it just had to be a machine from a time, when DOS was really present and used.
Also built a 386 for late 80s and early 90s games.
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I have a crush on the 486 generation. There are some fine processors, which came out at the end of this era around 1995. For example, i got an AMD X5-133 overclocked to 160MHz. Best 486 cpu i ever had. Coupled with a Matrox Millenium and a SB AWE32. Good DOS Machine. Playing like back in the days! I also had a Pentium III for DOS games, but for me it just had to be a machine from a time, when DOS was really present and used.
Also built a 386 for late 80s and early 90s games.
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PentiumMMX
I have 2 retro PCs, 1st one is a Pentium 133 and the 2nd one is a Pentium 3 500
i also have some retro hardware like i got 5 socket 7 atx motherboards (3x Intel AN430TX, Intel AG430HX, Intel Advanced/ML, a few soundblaster 16 cards, a few s3 trio cards, a s3 virge dx, 2x voodoo 2 8mb, some 72 pin FPM and EDO ram and some PC100 and PC133 SDRAM sticks from 32mb to 256mb, and some intel pentium 1 cpus (2x 90 mhz, 100 mhz, 120 mhz, 2x 133 mhz, 166 mhz, 200 mhz, 233 mhz mmx)
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I have 2 retro PCs, 1st one is a Pentium 133 and the 2nd one is a Pentium 3 500
i also have some retro hardware like i got 5 socket 7 atx motherboards (3x Intel AN430TX, Intel AG430HX, Intel Advanced/ML, a few soundblaster 16 cards, a few s3 trio cards, a s3 virge dx, 2x voodoo 2 8mb, some 72 pin FPM and EDO ram and some PC100 and PC133 SDRAM sticks from 32mb to 256mb, and some intel pentium 1 cpus (2x 90 mhz, 100 mhz, 120 mhz, 2x 133 mhz, 166 mhz, 200 mhz, 233 mhz mmx)
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Maxwell
One note, if the costs to pay on eBay are attrocious (and they kinda are, someone looking to build an authentic DOS PC on the cheap may want to check out local thrift stores and small computer shops that recycle. Pentium I-III era machines turn up at these places often and sometimes can be had quite cheap. I got a fair amount of my retro junk for next to nothing thanks to working in a PC shop for years, you never know what might be lurking out back or in the recycle pile.
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One note, if the costs to pay on eBay are attrocious (and they kinda are, someone looking to build an authentic DOS PC on the cheap may want to check out local thrift stores and small computer shops that recycle. Pentium I-III era machines turn up at these places often and sometimes can be had quite cheap. I got a fair amount of my retro junk for next to nothing thanks to working in a PC shop for years, you never know what might be lurking out back or in the recycle pile.
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LGR
Let's see: collectors, hobbyists, enthusiasts, retro gamers, programmers, hardware tinkerers, reviewers like myself, people who are just plain curious about the old days, the list goes on. Considering the amount of email I constantly get regarding DOS, I'd say the number of people who still use it for fun is quite high. That's like asking -who uses old cars anymore? -. obviously, people who enjoy and love old cars use old cars. What a silly question.
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Let's see: collectors, hobbyists, enthusiasts, retro gamers, programmers, hardware tinkerers, reviewers like myself, people who are just plain curious about the old days, the list goes on. Considering the amount of email I constantly get regarding DOS, I'd say the number of people who still use it for fun is quite high. That's like asking -who uses old cars anymore? -. obviously, people who enjoy and love old cars use old cars. What a silly question.
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Dylan
Don't know if you still check this video anymore, but your thoughts on the setup I'm working on at the moment? 486 DX4-100, 32MB RAM, SoundBlaster AWE64 Value, S3 Trio, on a Shuttle 433 PCI/ISA hybrid board. It seems to be between the second and third classes you mention there. I'm in my mid 20s and am mostly wanting to play games from around 1990 to 1998 ish, with a heavy emphasis on Epic and Apogee titles. Do you think its a good setup for that?
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Don't know if you still check this video anymore, but your thoughts on the setup I'm working on at the moment? 486 DX4-100, 32MB RAM, SoundBlaster AWE64 Value, S3 Trio, on a Shuttle 433 PCI/ISA hybrid board. It seems to be between the second and third classes you mention there. I'm in my mid 20s and am mostly wanting to play games from around 1990 to 1998 ish, with a heavy emphasis on Epic and Apogee titles. Do you think its a good setup for that?
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Dylan
Google any one of these projects: DOSbox, DOSemu, FreeDOS, CWSDPMI, DJGPP, HX-DOS Extender, USBASPI, Arachne Web Browser, DOSIDLE, OpenTyrian, OpenJazz, Doom for XBLA. All of these are modern, frequently updated projects that either emulate DOS, are a form of DOS, are built on DOS, depend heavily on DOS, allow one to develop on DOS, allow one to use DOS in modern ways, or are ports of DOS games to modern systems. Clearly, someone is using DOS.
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Google any one of these projects: DOSbox, DOSemu, FreeDOS, CWSDPMI, DJGPP, HX-DOS Extender, USBASPI, Arachne Web Browser, DOSIDLE, OpenTyrian, OpenJazz, Doom for XBLA. All of these are modern, frequently updated projects that either emulate DOS, are a form of DOS, are built on DOS, depend heavily on DOS, allow one to develop on DOS, allow one to use DOS in modern ways, or are ports of DOS games to modern systems. Clearly, someone is using DOS.
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