Installing MS-DOS on an AMD Ryzen Gaming PC
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Date: 2022-04-14
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Jeremy
this is awesome and sad at the same time. I today year 2021 have an nice ryzen with win 10. and cant get virtual box installing win 98. cant don't work anymore. even the makers of virtual box said, on modern pcs. and I want to play a few games that was awesome back in win 98 era and don't like the ports to new systems cause u cant usually play the mods! like back in the day. so I am doing the same thing u did in another episode went goodwill hunting and ebay for my awesome fastest win 98 system that I couldn't afford back then!
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this is awesome and sad at the same time. I today year 2021 have an nice ryzen with win 10. and cant get virtual box installing win 98. cant don't work anymore. even the makers of virtual box said, on modern pcs. and I want to play a few games that was awesome back in win 98 era and don't like the ports to new systems cause u cant usually play the mods! like back in the day. so I am doing the same thing u did in another episode went goodwill hunting and ebay for my awesome fastest win 98 system that I couldn't afford back then!
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Robert
I tried FreeDOS on my computer a few days ago. It has a Nvidia GTX 1070, with core I7 and 16GB RAM and while plain VGA games ran fine, CGA and EGA didn't work at all, and also trying to use VESA modes just made the picture flicker and the game was slow. The video memory reported to programs was 16MB too out of 8GB xD So I think the Nvidia 10 series has even less compatibility than the 9 series for DOS, no idea about the RTX series though.
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I tried FreeDOS on my computer a few days ago. It has a Nvidia GTX 1070, with core I7 and 16GB RAM and while plain VGA games ran fine, CGA and EGA didn't work at all, and also trying to use VESA modes just made the picture flicker and the game was slow. The video memory reported to programs was 16MB too out of 8GB xD So I think the Nvidia 10 series has even less compatibility than the 9 series for DOS, no idea about the RTX series though.
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Hernan
-LGR for the video there is a video driver that i used for my new vga cards on dos 6. 22 called univbe, you load this driver before load the gane you wanna play at dos for better compatibility, could be a good test on this, for a soundcard it's certainly more difficult, i dream with a pci to isa converter to plug my awe64 isa card into my actual desktop that acctually have 2 32 bit pci slots
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-LGR for the video there is a video driver that i used for my new vga cards on dos 6. 22 called univbe, you load this driver before load the gane you wanna play at dos for better compatibility, could be a good test on this, for a soundcard it's certainly more difficult, i dream with a pci to isa converter to plug my awe64 isa card into my actual desktop that acctually have 2 32 bit pci slots
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Rainbow
Q: But does it run Aces over Europe?
6: 50: Yes, 624K! Wohoo!
10: 47 I remember having had problems with that already on an SB Audigy 1. IIRC the Live! still worked in DOS with some drivers as it was the Win 98 era, but the Audigy totally crapped out.
11: 42 Wait, those do exist? Getting fantasies of running my X-Fi Elite Pro in my next rig with that.
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Q: But does it run Aces over Europe?
6: 50: Yes, 624K! Wohoo!
10: 47 I remember having had problems with that already on an SB Audigy 1. IIRC the Live! still worked in DOS with some drivers as it was the Win 98 era, but the Audigy totally crapped out.
11: 42 Wait, those do exist? Getting fantasies of running my X-Fi Elite Pro in my next rig with that.
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fanjoy
For a sound card 100% compatible with DOS games you'd need a card on ISA slot, which this motherboard almost certainly doesn't have. Apparently it is not possible to make an ISA to PCI or ISA to PCIe adapter that would work with SoundBlaster cards. There were DOS drivers emulating SoundBlaster on certain PCI sound cards, but not all games worked well with them.
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For a sound card 100% compatible with DOS games you'd need a card on ISA slot, which this motherboard almost certainly doesn't have. Apparently it is not possible to make an ISA to PCI or ISA to PCIe adapter that would work with SoundBlaster cards. There were DOS drivers emulating SoundBlaster on certain PCI sound cards, but not all games worked well with them.
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Scoopta
I do wonder how much longer this will be the case. As the industry transitions to class 3 UEFI things that require a BIOS will cease to work. I know intel wanted to have that transition done by last year. Idk where we are with that. I expect to see a lot of the legacy features going away as BIOS dies. As it is the A20 gate is already gone on a lot of CPUs.
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I do wonder how much longer this will be the case. As the industry transitions to class 3 UEFI things that require a BIOS will cease to work. I know intel wanted to have that transition done by last year. Idk where we are with that. I expect to see a lot of the legacy features going away as BIOS dies. As it is the A20 gate is already gone on a lot of CPUs.
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Bob
I recently set up a Dell Dimension L500cx with FreeDOS. My hope was that you may have found a way to set up sound on a PCI sound card. I guess I'll follow the suggested source you mention in the video.
On the bright side, Commander Keen 1 looks fine on the cheap video card that shipped with the Dell Dimension. I guess, sometimes, less is more.
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I recently set up a Dell Dimension L500cx with FreeDOS. My hope was that you may have found a way to set up sound on a PCI sound card. I guess I'll follow the suggested source you mention in the video.
On the bright side, Commander Keen 1 looks fine on the cheap video card that shipped with the Dell Dimension. I guess, sometimes, less is more.
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Steve
Did you install the actual sound blaster drivers? You can just set the SB environment settings. But true, no reason to expect that whatever sound hardware is being included, that they'd naturally be SB compatible. But anyway, just trying CTSB2. SYS and CTMMSYS. SYS in the config. sys (i. e. try an actual SB media install) might be worth a shot.
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Did you install the actual sound blaster drivers? You can just set the SB environment settings. But true, no reason to expect that whatever sound hardware is being included, that they'd naturally be SB compatible. But anyway, just trying CTSB2. SYS and CTMMSYS. SYS in the config. sys (i. e. try an actual SB media install) might be worth a shot.
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VGamingJunkie
So in short, if you want to play MSDOS on your modern computer, maybe just stick with Dosbox. Odds are, nothing you want to run with it that doesn't already have a source port option like Duke 3D or Quake will be too demanding for CPU's nowadays.
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So in short, if you want to play MSDOS on your modern computer, maybe just stick with Dosbox. Odds are, nothing you want to run with it that doesn't already have a source port option like Duke 3D or Quake will be too demanding for CPU's nowadays.
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dukenu100
why install on a modern machine when i can just go to my closet and bust out my original 700mhz pentium machine? its running duke nukem with the internal speaker. .just need an older monitor with the vga connection is all.
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why install on a modern machine when i can just go to my closet and bust out my original 700mhz pentium machine? its running duke nukem with the internal speaker. .just need an older monitor with the vga connection is all.
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