4 Star Wars Mysteries Solved By The Last Jedi
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I mean, the whole plot can pretty much be summed up as the resistance moves bases. It honestly sounds like the plot of a TV series episode. There was so much filler like all that crap on canto bight which took away from other better parts of the movie. Like snoke for example, never got any character development or backstory before being killed off. And crait, one of the coolest planets in the saga conceptually, on which absolutely nothing happened. No big battle like what was hinted at, barely any use of the ski speeders and in general no good reason to even be there in the first place. It was: land on crait, go into a trench, retreat, send out ski speeders, all get shot down, send Luke out, retreat into falcon, leave.
All told, I just saw the last Jedi as a wasted opportunity for a far better film. If, say, it had opened with the battle on crait then focused on the actual interesting part of the plot with luke, Rey and Kylo, it would've been far more successful as a star wars film. The last Jedi could've been renamed The slow motion space chase, because that's what most of the film was.
Date: 2020-07-14
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Comments and reviews: 8
Camilo
I was so disappointed by the way they used Snoke. I mean, I get that he was only there to serve Kylo Ren's character arc, but that doesn't mean he should be thrown down the garbage as soon as they get the chance. I wasn't expecting him to be Darth Plaguis, nor Darth Bane, nor Mace Windu, nor Mos Tarkin, he could perfectly be a whole new character. Still, he does play a big part in one of the new trilogy's most important character's journey. Doesn't he deserve a little more exploration? Maybe Disney thought hey, all the fans have their own theories. Let's just do something that no one expects, and yet, it feels like they didn't know how to use the character. Why bother creating him when you aren't gonna go further with him? Sure, nobody wants a clone of the emperor, but still, a little on background and how he got Kylo to join his ranks would've been better
Still, I liked the movie and don't get all the hate it's been having: p
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I was so disappointed by the way they used Snoke. I mean, I get that he was only there to serve Kylo Ren's character arc, but that doesn't mean he should be thrown down the garbage as soon as they get the chance. I wasn't expecting him to be Darth Plaguis, nor Darth Bane, nor Mace Windu, nor Mos Tarkin, he could perfectly be a whole new character. Still, he does play a big part in one of the new trilogy's most important character's journey. Doesn't he deserve a little more exploration? Maybe Disney thought hey, all the fans have their own theories. Let's just do something that no one expects, and yet, it feels like they didn't know how to use the character. Why bother creating him when you aren't gonna go further with him? Sure, nobody wants a clone of the emperor, but still, a little on background and how he got Kylo to join his ranks would've been better
Still, I liked the movie and don't get all the hate it's been having: p
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Kevin
Q: Why General Holdo didn't inform the resistance regarding the escape in planet Crait (the salt planet?
A: Initially I thought it was a huuuuge plothole but because of my dismay to that scene in the film, I came across within the comment section of another TLJ topic and it actually made sense.
Given that the First Order managed to track down the resistance during hyperdrive, it was inexplicitly assumed that there was a mole within the resistance (not just by Poe and the gang but also Gen. Holdo.
Given that she didn't know that it was possible with the new tech that the First Order have, she was fixated to that mole thought and disagree to withdrew any information throughout the escape.
She may trust Poe but she couldn't trust everyone and Poe's aggressiveness could lead to greater casualty that the resistance already had.
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Q: Why General Holdo didn't inform the resistance regarding the escape in planet Crait (the salt planet?
A: Initially I thought it was a huuuuge plothole but because of my dismay to that scene in the film, I came across within the comment section of another TLJ topic and it actually made sense.
Given that the First Order managed to track down the resistance during hyperdrive, it was inexplicitly assumed that there was a mole within the resistance (not just by Poe and the gang but also Gen. Holdo.
Given that she didn't know that it was possible with the new tech that the First Order have, she was fixated to that mole thought and disagree to withdrew any information throughout the escape.
She may trust Poe but she couldn't trust everyone and Poe's aggressiveness could lead to greater casualty that the resistance already had.
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Edwin
Is it just me or do I see severalDisney versions of characters from KotOR 1 & 2. Here is what I mean. Luke became Disney's version of Meetra Surik otherwise known as the Jedi Exile. Long story short, Meetra was a Jedi during the time of Revan that cut her own connection to the Force after a painful even simular as what Luke did.
With their new Force Bound in place, Kylo Ren and Rey are now mirroring Revan and Bastila Shan.
So with those three (Meetra, Revan and Bastila) that leaves only one major character and that is The Sith Emperor Darth Vitiate otherwise known as the Immortal Ruler and Protector of Zakuul, Emperor Valkorion. Yes I think that Snoke is Disney's version of Vitiate/Valkorion. If this is true than Kylo and Rey have to team up once more to take on Snoke.
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Is it just me or do I see severalDisney versions of characters from KotOR 1 & 2. Here is what I mean. Luke became Disney's version of Meetra Surik otherwise known as the Jedi Exile. Long story short, Meetra was a Jedi during the time of Revan that cut her own connection to the Force after a painful even simular as what Luke did.
With their new Force Bound in place, Kylo Ren and Rey are now mirroring Revan and Bastila Shan.
So with those three (Meetra, Revan and Bastila) that leaves only one major character and that is The Sith Emperor Darth Vitiate otherwise known as the Immortal Ruler and Protector of Zakuul, Emperor Valkorion. Yes I think that Snoke is Disney's version of Vitiate/Valkorion. If this is true than Kylo and Rey have to team up once more to take on Snoke.
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fanjoy
The hallmark of any good story is a solid, believable character. Not just somebody for the sake of somebody, aka Snoke. TFA alluded to the identity of Rey's parents as if it mattered, but newsflash no it doesn't. that was a chicken-shit move, an attempted twist that only M. Night Shyamalan would like. Decades of lore and cohesive story built on 100's of novels is now nothing more than Legends. This isn't merely whining, it's another slap in the face akin to the prequels. Also Disney played up Carrie Fisher's death in the trailers, only to pull the rug out from under us and have her character survive. Now what, will she be CGI'd into the next film like Rogue One? Oh boy.
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The hallmark of any good story is a solid, believable character. Not just somebody for the sake of somebody, aka Snoke. TFA alluded to the identity of Rey's parents as if it mattered, but newsflash no it doesn't. that was a chicken-shit move, an attempted twist that only M. Night Shyamalan would like. Decades of lore and cohesive story built on 100's of novels is now nothing more than Legends. This isn't merely whining, it's another slap in the face akin to the prequels. Also Disney played up Carrie Fisher's death in the trailers, only to pull the rug out from under us and have her character survive. Now what, will she be CGI'd into the next film like Rogue One? Oh boy.
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Robin
I don't think the first, third, or fourth mysteries really count. That Luke wanted to Jedi to end only exists _within_ the movie and its trailers. So it's like This movie solved the mystery of how this movie ends! Snoke is important, but we're not given and answer to how he became what he is, how he got his power in the Force or over the new empire, where he came from, how he found Ren, or anything really. So it doesn't answer anything about him. Rey's parentage was obviously manipulation. That was a theme in the movie. So that one's not even answered an, frankly, I defended Rey against the calls of Mary Sue in TFA, I have to agree now that she is one.
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I don't think the first, third, or fourth mysteries really count. That Luke wanted to Jedi to end only exists _within_ the movie and its trailers. So it's like This movie solved the mystery of how this movie ends! Snoke is important, but we're not given and answer to how he became what he is, how he got his power in the Force or over the new empire, where he came from, how he found Ren, or anything really. So it doesn't answer anything about him. Rey's parentage was obviously manipulation. That was a theme in the movie. So that one's not even answered an, frankly, I defended Rey against the calls of Mary Sue in TFA, I have to agree now that she is one.
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Chris
All I can say is I went into this movie with zero expectation and I walked out wanting to see it again. Any time I've ever built up expectation of ANY movie I've ever seen, I've come out completely disappointed. So I just don't allow for having any expectations and I found I actually enjoy more movies than I hate. Sure, there are movies that wind up being really bad or somewhat disappointing, but this wasn't the case here. I really enjoyed it. Sure the film had its' flaws and I got robbed of a few unanswered questions, but I've faith all of that will be resolved in time.
And can you guys just be kind to each other once in a while?
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All I can say is I went into this movie with zero expectation and I walked out wanting to see it again. Any time I've ever built up expectation of ANY movie I've ever seen, I've come out completely disappointed. So I just don't allow for having any expectations and I found I actually enjoy more movies than I hate. Sure, there are movies that wind up being really bad or somewhat disappointing, but this wasn't the case here. I really enjoyed it. Sure the film had its' flaws and I got robbed of a few unanswered questions, but I've faith all of that will be resolved in time.
And can you guys just be kind to each other once in a while?
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Mario
Rey's father answer was already in Star Wars Legends lore; so no it isn't mayor plotwist or approach; Luke's motive is a mistrear portrayal of his character we are talking about the guy who took on suicide mission to redeem the second evil mam in the galaxy which was his father, Leia always used force powers it was already in the lore in Legends she even becomes a Jedi but abandons the wield of using a lightsaber because it reminds her a lot of his father, and Snoke's identity of matter who was this guy that turned the most powerful Jedi (Luke) afraid of his own nephew and made him a whiny coward.
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Rey's father answer was already in Star Wars Legends lore; so no it isn't mayor plotwist or approach; Luke's motive is a mistrear portrayal of his character we are talking about the guy who took on suicide mission to redeem the second evil mam in the galaxy which was his father, Leia always used force powers it was already in the lore in Legends she even becomes a Jedi but abandons the wield of using a lightsaber because it reminds her a lot of his father, and Snoke's identity of matter who was this guy that turned the most powerful Jedi (Luke) afraid of his own nephew and made him a whiny coward.
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Brian
I didn't particularly enjoy last surviving the attack on the ships and escaping through space in a force bubble I mean we know she had to be for sensitive being a Skywalker and everything and she did exhibit an affinity to the force and episode for you don't see it but it's mentioned that she had uncanny resistance to the empires mind probe when they wanted to find out the location of the rebel base before using the Death Star on Alderaan but still that being the first time we see on screen are using the force and using it and such a strong way was a little too much for my taste
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I didn't particularly enjoy last surviving the attack on the ships and escaping through space in a force bubble I mean we know she had to be for sensitive being a Skywalker and everything and she did exhibit an affinity to the force and episode for you don't see it but it's mentioned that she had uncanny resistance to the empires mind probe when they wanted to find out the location of the rebel base before using the Death Star on Alderaan but still that being the first time we see on screen are using the force and using it and such a strong way was a little too much for my taste
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