The Greatest Deleted Scenes Ever Filmed
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Date: 2020-07-14
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DRHACKNSLASH
As to all the cuts in ALIENS, it was made before multi plexes and megaplexes and ultra plexes were so prevalent, and a lot of cinemas at the time did not like to have films with too long a running time. The longer the film, the less screenings they could show. The less screenings, the less concessions they can sell, and concessions, at leasy back then, was where cinemas made any money, as, even today, the studios get the majority of the money from ticket sales. Concessions is the source of the money used to pay the bills, and, that's where the money comes from to pay the employees. Nowadays they have the pre shows and commercials which is also another profit maker, and they do get paid per trailer, per screen and per showing of the trailers, but it's the concessions still that provide the majority of the money they need. That said, since more screenings mean more concessions sold, and, since even back then, the studio would get 90% of the tickets sales for the first few weeks of release, after screening the film, Fix went up to Cameron with a list of scenes to cut, and was told to cut them. He had no choice. If I remember correctly, it was even out of the hands of the Brandywine team. The directors cut of ALIENS is the only true directors cut of the special editions that were released in the box sets.
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As to all the cuts in ALIENS, it was made before multi plexes and megaplexes and ultra plexes were so prevalent, and a lot of cinemas at the time did not like to have films with too long a running time. The longer the film, the less screenings they could show. The less screenings, the less concessions they can sell, and concessions, at leasy back then, was where cinemas made any money, as, even today, the studios get the majority of the money from ticket sales. Concessions is the source of the money used to pay the bills, and, that's where the money comes from to pay the employees. Nowadays they have the pre shows and commercials which is also another profit maker, and they do get paid per trailer, per screen and per showing of the trailers, but it's the concessions still that provide the majority of the money they need. That said, since more screenings mean more concessions sold, and, since even back then, the studio would get 90% of the tickets sales for the first few weeks of release, after screening the film, Fix went up to Cameron with a list of scenes to cut, and was told to cut them. He had no choice. If I remember correctly, it was even out of the hands of the Brandywine team. The directors cut of ALIENS is the only true directors cut of the special editions that were released in the box sets.
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Dennis
When Blade Runner came out, back in the early 80's, the last scene of the movie, is a very old Deckard, sitting on a bench, outside a house and Rachel, looking exactly as she looked when Deckard was young, taking care of him. Meaning that Deckard is human and ages, as opposed to the replicant Rachel. Humans age, machines don't. That scene has been cut from all versions of the movie so they could make sequels, video games, toys and everything else that might sell. Only people that have seen the original version of the movie know about the true ending. Hell, even in the new Blade Runner movie, Deckard is aged. Let's not miss the fact that the replicants had a 4 year life span, except Rachel, obviously, who is supposedly a newer model. Which also defeats the purpose of the failsafe, the 4 year lifespan.
The replicants in the movie are robots, cyborgs are humans with artificial parts, replicants are not cyborgs and neither is the Terminator. Actually the terminator is the same as the replicants. A machine disguised to look human. Only in the Blade Runner movie they gave them feelings, which of course is impossible.
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When Blade Runner came out, back in the early 80's, the last scene of the movie, is a very old Deckard, sitting on a bench, outside a house and Rachel, looking exactly as she looked when Deckard was young, taking care of him. Meaning that Deckard is human and ages, as opposed to the replicant Rachel. Humans age, machines don't. That scene has been cut from all versions of the movie so they could make sequels, video games, toys and everything else that might sell. Only people that have seen the original version of the movie know about the true ending. Hell, even in the new Blade Runner movie, Deckard is aged. Let's not miss the fact that the replicants had a 4 year life span, except Rachel, obviously, who is supposedly a newer model. Which also defeats the purpose of the failsafe, the 4 year lifespan.
The replicants in the movie are robots, cyborgs are humans with artificial parts, replicants are not cyborgs and neither is the Terminator. Actually the terminator is the same as the replicants. A machine disguised to look human. Only in the Blade Runner movie they gave them feelings, which of course is impossible.
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Brian
Philip K. Dick wrote the character Deckard as a human in his novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Hampton Fancher (original screenwriter) has said that he wrote the character Deckard as a human, but wanted the film to suggest the possibility that he may be a replicant. He wanted a little ambiguity but maintained that the character was indeed human.
Harrison Ford considers Deckard to be human. That was the main area of contention between Ridley and myself at the time, Ford told an interviewer during a BBC1 Hollywood Greats segment. I thought the audience deserved one human being on screen that they could establish an emotional relationship with.
Ridley Scott stated in several interviews (2002, 2007, and 2012) that he considers Deckard a replicant.
Personally, I'll go with the creator of the character, the person who wrote the character for the screen, and the person who portrayed the character on the screen over the director who tampered with the original work in his Director's Cut.
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Philip K. Dick wrote the character Deckard as a human in his novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Hampton Fancher (original screenwriter) has said that he wrote the character Deckard as a human, but wanted the film to suggest the possibility that he may be a replicant. He wanted a little ambiguity but maintained that the character was indeed human.
Harrison Ford considers Deckard to be human. That was the main area of contention between Ridley and myself at the time, Ford told an interviewer during a BBC1 Hollywood Greats segment. I thought the audience deserved one human being on screen that they could establish an emotional relationship with.
Ridley Scott stated in several interviews (2002, 2007, and 2012) that he considers Deckard a replicant.
Personally, I'll go with the creator of the character, the person who wrote the character for the screen, and the person who portrayed the character on the screen over the director who tampered with the original work in his Director's Cut.
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fanjoy
I can see why they cut the scene about Ripley's daughter. There's enough of a bond between Newt and Ripley already just from having survivor issues. It wouldn't necessarily have been a disaster to leave it in but it would have made the emotional connection between Ripley and Newt too on the nose, it would have been too much of a coincidence for the story to provide Ripley with a new daughter as well as another chance to conquer her fear. I think it would have slowed down the movie and knocked it off balance. It would also have stepped out a little too far from the tone of the original. Ripley in Alien is quite a cold, formal character, at least until the shit starts hitting the fan, I would not have expected her to have had a relationship let alone a daughter. I'm glad they cut it, it's would have been just a dash too much seasoning - they made a good judgement in my view.
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I can see why they cut the scene about Ripley's daughter. There's enough of a bond between Newt and Ripley already just from having survivor issues. It wouldn't necessarily have been a disaster to leave it in but it would have made the emotional connection between Ripley and Newt too on the nose, it would have been too much of a coincidence for the story to provide Ripley with a new daughter as well as another chance to conquer her fear. I think it would have slowed down the movie and knocked it off balance. It would also have stepped out a little too far from the tone of the original. Ripley in Alien is quite a cold, formal character, at least until the shit starts hitting the fan, I would not have expected her to have had a relationship let alone a daughter. I'm glad they cut it, it's would have been just a dash too much seasoning - they made a good judgement in my view.
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Ian
Point of note - In the original theatre version of Aliens, Newt's family's encounter with the aliens, Ripley's daughter and the recovered sentry guns were not included. However, in the special edition version, all are included. The special edition for Aliens actually adds to the quality of the film whereas in some other sci-fi films the special edition does not necessarily work (eg; Close Encounters of The Third Kind, Blade Runner. Also in the original version of Alien, there are no further scenes with Dallas (played by Tom Skerritt) after he encounters the alien in the one of the ships ducts but in the special edition Ripley actually encounters the cocooned Dallas in a later scene. All in all, Alien (and its many sequels/subordinates) is a must-watch in the movie world.
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Point of note - In the original theatre version of Aliens, Newt's family's encounter with the aliens, Ripley's daughter and the recovered sentry guns were not included. However, in the special edition version, all are included. The special edition for Aliens actually adds to the quality of the film whereas in some other sci-fi films the special edition does not necessarily work (eg; Close Encounters of The Third Kind, Blade Runner. Also in the original version of Alien, there are no further scenes with Dallas (played by Tom Skerritt) after he encounters the alien in the one of the ships ducts but in the special edition Ripley actually encounters the cocooned Dallas in a later scene. All in all, Alien (and its many sequels/subordinates) is a must-watch in the movie world.
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Reepacheirp
Okay on the Obi Wan and Luke thing a lot of this if you are an astute follower of the original trilogy you would notice when Luke asks Ben about his father dying there is a look of pain and hesitation that to me is perfect within the whole 6 film SAGA that it is the one thing that Obi Wan knew would come for me seeing him talking to Luke about things after the death of Yoda for me was enough for me and especially after watching Episode 3 for me that was the best movie of all the rest and the most painful. That look he gives Luke was understandable hearing the words you were my Brother Anakin I loved you. if that wasn't the most poignant lines after the full weight of the film. Enough said. Thanks George.
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Okay on the Obi Wan and Luke thing a lot of this if you are an astute follower of the original trilogy you would notice when Luke asks Ben about his father dying there is a look of pain and hesitation that to me is perfect within the whole 6 film SAGA that it is the one thing that Obi Wan knew would come for me seeing him talking to Luke about things after the death of Yoda for me was enough for me and especially after watching Episode 3 for me that was the best movie of all the rest and the most painful. That look he gives Luke was understandable hearing the words you were my Brother Anakin I loved you. if that wasn't the most poignant lines after the full weight of the film. Enough said. Thanks George.
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Oberonjames
There was another part they cut from Terminator 2 that I just don't get, and that's the three shots of the T-1000 glitching out after reconstituting itself at the steel mill. They were all less than a second long, so they didn't negatively affect the running time or pace of the film. The effects were completed, and they explained how John was able to tell which Sarah was the real one. Cameron should at least have included the third shot, which is just a continuation of the shot that made it into the final final, and shows the camera panning down to reveal the T-1000 glitching into the steel grating it's standing on.
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There was another part they cut from Terminator 2 that I just don't get, and that's the three shots of the T-1000 glitching out after reconstituting itself at the steel mill. They were all less than a second long, so they didn't negatively affect the running time or pace of the film. The effects were completed, and they explained how John was able to tell which Sarah was the real one. Cameron should at least have included the third shot, which is just a continuation of the shot that made it into the final final, and shows the camera panning down to reveal the T-1000 glitching into the steel grating it's standing on.
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Krogg
Kinda shit tier takes on The Thing. The dog ending makes little to no sense unless we'd have been given a lot more visual context than just that brief shot. Child's breath not being visible has been debunked as it was entirely on accident due to the way the scene was lit. Other fan theories include speculating that McReady's drink that he offers childs was a bottle of gasoline and that Mac laughs because he now knows Child is the Thing because for some reason he doesn't notice people don't drink gas? Since The Thing perfectly imitates people, The Thing would still sputter up the drink.
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Kinda shit tier takes on The Thing. The dog ending makes little to no sense unless we'd have been given a lot more visual context than just that brief shot. Child's breath not being visible has been debunked as it was entirely on accident due to the way the scene was lit. Other fan theories include speculating that McReady's drink that he offers childs was a bottle of gasoline and that Mac laughs because he now knows Child is the Thing because for some reason he doesn't notice people don't drink gas? Since The Thing perfectly imitates people, The Thing would still sputter up the drink.
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Syreeta
Looper Does anyone remember the octopus from The Goonies? When I was a kid I saw a version of The Goonies where they encounter a giant octopus while wading through the water to One Eyed Willie's ship The Inferno. It touches Steph underwater & she thought it was Mouth messing with her. Then they fight it before getting on the ship. All versions I've seen since exclude this scene whether on television or back when I had VHS or DVD. The only thing that makes me sure I saw it is that they left the part in where Data mentions an octopus when getting interviewed by the newsman at the end.
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Looper Does anyone remember the octopus from The Goonies? When I was a kid I saw a version of The Goonies where they encounter a giant octopus while wading through the water to One Eyed Willie's ship The Inferno. It touches Steph underwater & she thought it was Mouth messing with her. Then they fight it before getting on the ship. All versions I've seen since exclude this scene whether on television or back when I had VHS or DVD. The only thing that makes me sure I saw it is that they left the part in where Data mentions an octopus when getting interviewed by the newsman at the end.
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