Things The Dune Movies Get Totally Wrong From The Book
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Date: 2023-05-14
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Okay, I'm breaking my silence after forty years of enduring film and TV adaptations that get the heart of the Dune plot wrong. In the book, after Jessica and Paul find themselves stranded in the desert, Paul's intuitive skills grow and he figures out before his mother that the two of them are -- Harkonnens! Yes, Jessica did not know her parentage, but her father is the Duke Harkonnen himself. So Paul and his sister are grandchildren of the gruesome Duke, which is why his sister calls him Grandfather before she kills him (in the 1984 movie, without explanation. In the book, Paul explains to Jessica that the two of them resemble Harkonnens in the lines of their faces. (Needless to say, there is no resemblance in the screen adaptations)
So the Atreides-Harkonnen feud turns out actually to be a civil war within the Harkonnen dynasty itself. The Duke Harkonnen is grooming his nephew Feid Rautha to become Emperor, but it turns out to be his grandson Paul Atreides who will accede to the throne. There is much irony here, which is totally missing from all the adaptations. Paul is entitled to wear both ducal rings, which means his power exceeds that of the Padishah emperor, whose ring he will inherit after marrying his daughter Princess Irulan. I detest the demotion of Irulan from narrator to prop in the latest movie, and I thank you for pointing this out. Irulan ends up having time on her hands because she is only a trophy bride for Paul, and that is why she can write the books that provide the narrative texts. So I have no time to see Dune Part Two; I will choose to read the book again instead.
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Okay, I'm breaking my silence after forty years of enduring film and TV adaptations that get the heart of the Dune plot wrong. In the book, after Jessica and Paul find themselves stranded in the desert, Paul's intuitive skills grow and he figures out before his mother that the two of them are -- Harkonnens! Yes, Jessica did not know her parentage, but her father is the Duke Harkonnen himself. So Paul and his sister are grandchildren of the gruesome Duke, which is why his sister calls him Grandfather before she kills him (in the 1984 movie, without explanation. In the book, Paul explains to Jessica that the two of them resemble Harkonnens in the lines of their faces. (Needless to say, there is no resemblance in the screen adaptations)
So the Atreides-Harkonnen feud turns out actually to be a civil war within the Harkonnen dynasty itself. The Duke Harkonnen is grooming his nephew Feid Rautha to become Emperor, but it turns out to be his grandson Paul Atreides who will accede to the throne. There is much irony here, which is totally missing from all the adaptations. Paul is entitled to wear both ducal rings, which means his power exceeds that of the Padishah emperor, whose ring he will inherit after marrying his daughter Princess Irulan. I detest the demotion of Irulan from narrator to prop in the latest movie, and I thank you for pointing this out. Irulan ends up having time on her hands because she is only a trophy bride for Paul, and that is why she can write the books that provide the narrative texts. So I have no time to see Dune Part Two; I will choose to read the book again instead.
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Scott
This doesn't mention what I think is the most disappointing bit dropped from the book: the dinner party that Paul has to lead when Leto is called away. That is one of the best scenes in the book. It helps establish that the Atreides really are different from the Harkonnens, gives a sense of the society the Harkonnens fostered, shows the effects of the Bene Gesserit training and Truthsense on Paul, and establishes the smugglers who might be a way off-planet if things go wrong.
The movie was great, and had only a few missteps to my mind. But this loss was quite disappointing. I'm hoping they filmed it and one day we'll see an editor's cut that includes it.
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This doesn't mention what I think is the most disappointing bit dropped from the book: the dinner party that Paul has to lead when Leto is called away. That is one of the best scenes in the book. It helps establish that the Atreides really are different from the Harkonnens, gives a sense of the society the Harkonnens fostered, shows the effects of the Bene Gesserit training and Truthsense on Paul, and establishes the smugglers who might be a way off-planet if things go wrong.
The movie was great, and had only a few missteps to my mind. But this loss was quite disappointing. I'm hoping they filmed it and one day we'll see an editor's cut that includes it.
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Terry
i completely hate the dune movie and most likely the second. The books are to good to be properly brought to life, at least with the cast they have, i think Timothy is overated and doesn't fit the image i have from the books
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i completely hate the dune movie and most likely the second. The books are to good to be properly brought to life, at least with the cast they have, i think Timothy is overated and doesn't fit the image i have from the books
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Jon
I think you are going too far to say that fans were left wanting more. A film adaptation needs to adapt specific elements of an original novel to make it viable to include on screen.
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I think you are going too far to say that fans were left wanting more. A film adaptation needs to adapt specific elements of an original novel to make it viable to include on screen.
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Richard
I don't believe the makers intended the movie to be an exact copy of the book. Do people even realize how dense the whole series is?
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I don't believe the makers intended the movie to be an exact copy of the book. Do people even realize how dense the whole series is?
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Robert
Shame they never did the Paul s speach to the water seller over the banquet table, It would of added more depth to the story.
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Shame they never did the Paul s speach to the water seller over the banquet table, It would of added more depth to the story.
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Andy
Mentats don t use melange they drink a liquid that stains their lips called Sapho juice. Do your research. or read the book
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Mentats don t use melange they drink a liquid that stains their lips called Sapho juice. Do your research. or read the book
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