Top 10 Things Queen Charlotte: A Bridgerton Story Got Factually Right & Wrong
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Date: 2023-11-21
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MeyaRose
I did know about the succession crisis. The fact that Queen Victoria was the only legitimate surviving grandchild of George III, who had over a dozen children, is the best argument for the Divine Right of Kings I've ever heard. The 3 longest reigning English monarchs were women who were extremely unlikely to inherit. (Elizabeth II was the daughter of a 2nd son, Victoria the daughter of a 5th son, and Elizabeth I was below 2 siblings)
And I knew that the daughter of the Prince Regent was not the Princess Royal because I remember reading somewhere that despite the fact that Victoria was the highest ranking princess and ultimately inherited the throne, she never actually held the title Princess Royal because it was held by her aunt. That same aunt would have to be the one holding the title at the time of this show. The rules for that title are weird. The title is given to the highest ranking princess, but it remains with that specific princess until her death, even after other princesses are born that supersede her in rank. That's why the current Princess Royal is Anne, King Charles III's sister, despite the fact that she has several nieces that now outrank her. Historically, the Princess Royal doesn't inherit the throne. The title is most often held by a sister or aunt of the current monarch, so it's really a rather useless ceremonial title.
I was curious about timing, though, and I looked it up. Queen Victoria was born 7 months after Queen Charlotte died, so I'm pretty sure that scene where they excitedly told Queen Charlotte that a legitimate grandchild was forthcoming (and a girl, for that matter) didn't happen. Not unless Queen Charlotte dies in the next season.
I enjoyed this season, or limited series, whatever you want to call it, but I can't help but feel like Queen Charlotte is an idiot. She's the most powerful woman in the world, but instead of worrying about her subjects or her children, she's more concerned about a gossip rag written by a teenage girl. I mean, she wasn't even concerned about the succession problem until Lady Whistledown wrote about it, by which time her daughters were too old to bear children. And even if she was able to pop out 15 babies no problem, I don't see how she could be so incredibly insensitive to her children that were obviously having fertility issues. It's true what Brimsley pointed out. It really isn't possible to be a good monarch AND a good parent, but I don't think she was either. She was just a good wife, which is I guess what was expected of her.
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I did know about the succession crisis. The fact that Queen Victoria was the only legitimate surviving grandchild of George III, who had over a dozen children, is the best argument for the Divine Right of Kings I've ever heard. The 3 longest reigning English monarchs were women who were extremely unlikely to inherit. (Elizabeth II was the daughter of a 2nd son, Victoria the daughter of a 5th son, and Elizabeth I was below 2 siblings)
And I knew that the daughter of the Prince Regent was not the Princess Royal because I remember reading somewhere that despite the fact that Victoria was the highest ranking princess and ultimately inherited the throne, she never actually held the title Princess Royal because it was held by her aunt. That same aunt would have to be the one holding the title at the time of this show. The rules for that title are weird. The title is given to the highest ranking princess, but it remains with that specific princess until her death, even after other princesses are born that supersede her in rank. That's why the current Princess Royal is Anne, King Charles III's sister, despite the fact that she has several nieces that now outrank her. Historically, the Princess Royal doesn't inherit the throne. The title is most often held by a sister or aunt of the current monarch, so it's really a rather useless ceremonial title.
I was curious about timing, though, and I looked it up. Queen Victoria was born 7 months after Queen Charlotte died, so I'm pretty sure that scene where they excitedly told Queen Charlotte that a legitimate grandchild was forthcoming (and a girl, for that matter) didn't happen. Not unless Queen Charlotte dies in the next season.
I enjoyed this season, or limited series, whatever you want to call it, but I can't help but feel like Queen Charlotte is an idiot. She's the most powerful woman in the world, but instead of worrying about her subjects or her children, she's more concerned about a gossip rag written by a teenage girl. I mean, she wasn't even concerned about the succession problem until Lady Whistledown wrote about it, by which time her daughters were too old to bear children. And even if she was able to pop out 15 babies no problem, I don't see how she could be so incredibly insensitive to her children that were obviously having fertility issues. It's true what Brimsley pointed out. It really isn't possible to be a good monarch AND a good parent, but I don't think she was either. She was just a good wife, which is I guess what was expected of her.
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Cicero
The show is like Gladiator: it's a what if - at a point in history, leaders seized a very real opportunity they had to bring more democracy into government.
Marcus Aurelius had 5 generals that would have made better leaders than his son, who actually killed his sister and the senators.
King George and Queen Charlotte did have this opportunity, because of Charles' various beliefs and Charlotte's blood, and laws preventing slavery in England, to end slavery in the isles and change the composition of the ruling class, which was filled with real legendary characters like The Chevalier, Alexandre Dumas and more.
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The show is like Gladiator: it's a what if - at a point in history, leaders seized a very real opportunity they had to bring more democracy into government.
Marcus Aurelius had 5 generals that would have made better leaders than his son, who actually killed his sister and the senators.
King George and Queen Charlotte did have this opportunity, because of Charles' various beliefs and Charlotte's blood, and laws preventing slavery in England, to end slavery in the isles and change the composition of the ruling class, which was filled with real legendary characters like The Chevalier, Alexandre Dumas and more.
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TayTubian
I believe it was the second option, that Reynolds was relieved of his duty. When the king was with Charlotte for that time before he had to give that speech to parliament he was on a run of wellness. There is a brief conversation between Reynolds and Brimsley where Brimsley has hope, while Reynolds also had hope he is doubtful, they insinuate the meaning of what it would mean for them as a couple if the king starts to have down moments. This scene to me was to lead up to the kings decline at parliament and the look on Reynolds face wasnt just pain for the king, but the realization of short days being a kingsman
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I believe it was the second option, that Reynolds was relieved of his duty. When the king was with Charlotte for that time before he had to give that speech to parliament he was on a run of wellness. There is a brief conversation between Reynolds and Brimsley where Brimsley has hope, while Reynolds also had hope he is doubtful, they insinuate the meaning of what it would mean for them as a couple if the king starts to have down moments. This scene to me was to lead up to the kings decline at parliament and the look on Reynolds face wasnt just pain for the king, but the realization of short days being a kingsman
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freshtendrills
There's only one fact about this show that matters, and they failed on that front spectacularly. I think we can begin and end with the race of the actress playing the character. It's an absolute embarrassment. How can you not cringe as a black person? They're telling you your history is too tribal and ethnic to show on TV, so they shoe horn you in to someone else's. Same with Cleopatra. How freaking cringe is it to hear someone in a documentary say My grandmother told me Cleopatra was black, and don't ever let anyone tell you different? That was in a documentary. The entire world is laughing at you.
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There's only one fact about this show that matters, and they failed on that front spectacularly. I think we can begin and end with the race of the actress playing the character. It's an absolute embarrassment. How can you not cringe as a black person? They're telling you your history is too tribal and ethnic to show on TV, so they shoe horn you in to someone else's. Same with Cleopatra. How freaking cringe is it to hear someone in a documentary say My grandmother told me Cleopatra was black, and don't ever let anyone tell you different? That was in a documentary. The entire world is laughing at you.
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Jan
There certainly was alot of focus on George's illness and the crazy, horrible and inhumane treatments he went through. It's amazing he survived. When he insisted on seeing Charlotte during her labor, as it was obvious things were not progressing and she was going to bleed to death. He took charge and saved his queen's life. Farmer George was there for her. Very typical Dr's of that time would just let a women die in childbirth. It struck me as an important scene due to her grand-daughter passing away in childbirth, along with her baby.
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There certainly was alot of focus on George's illness and the crazy, horrible and inhumane treatments he went through. It's amazing he survived. When he insisted on seeing Charlotte during her labor, as it was obvious things were not progressing and she was going to bleed to death. He took charge and saved his queen's life. Farmer George was there for her. Very typical Dr's of that time would just let a women die in childbirth. It struck me as an important scene due to her grand-daughter passing away in childbirth, along with her baby.
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Jill
Charlotte was also white and German ancestry. I really don't like all this woke garbage changing her ethnicity to black when she was white. I personally hate revisionist history hence why I will never watch Bridgerton or other programs when they have changed certain things in the cast etc. When I watch an historical drama I would like to see it relatively accurate. Just like The boleyns recently. It spoiled the programme for me as Ann was black. I WANT ACCURACY NOT POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS POLITICALLY CORRECT
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Charlotte was also white and German ancestry. I really don't like all this woke garbage changing her ethnicity to black when she was white. I personally hate revisionist history hence why I will never watch Bridgerton or other programs when they have changed certain things in the cast etc. When I watch an historical drama I would like to see it relatively accurate. Just like The boleyns recently. It spoiled the programme for me as Ann was black. I WANT ACCURACY NOT POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS POLITICALLY CORRECT
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Christina
My understanding is that the claim that Queen Charlotte was black stems from the allegation that she was descdended from the illegitimate son of King Alfonso I of Portugal and his Moorish mistress [Madragana].
However, King Alphonso I was born in 1109 or 1111, and Queen Charlotte was born in 1744. Thats more than 600 years of distance between Queen Charlotte and her alleged moorish ancestor. Also, the Moors were Arabs or Berbers. I think the odds are that Charlotte did not have black ancestry.
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My understanding is that the claim that Queen Charlotte was black stems from the allegation that she was descdended from the illegitimate son of King Alfonso I of Portugal and his Moorish mistress [Madragana].
However, King Alphonso I was born in 1109 or 1111, and Queen Charlotte was born in 1744. Thats more than 600 years of distance between Queen Charlotte and her alleged moorish ancestor. Also, the Moors were Arabs or Berbers. I think the odds are that Charlotte did not have black ancestry.
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Matt
All these messy comments about race. But one of the biggest missteps is George III not being in a wig 90% of the time as this was a time when they were extremely common, the original Bridgerton was when they had began going out of fashion for the upper class gentleman. They obviously thought that their target audience wouldn't be swooning over George if he was constantly in a white wig rather than looking like the captain of the high school football team. He does look terribly out of place.
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All these messy comments about race. But one of the biggest missteps is George III not being in a wig 90% of the time as this was a time when they were extremely common, the original Bridgerton was when they had began going out of fashion for the upper class gentleman. They obviously thought that their target audience wouldn't be swooning over George if he was constantly in a white wig rather than looking like the captain of the high school football team. He does look terribly out of place.
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axie
Most of it was historically accurate- even young Queen Charlotte asking for her face to be painted accurately.
It would make sense would it not/
Her wanting an heir was to secure ''our line''
She was a strong character, not a corrupt monarch either and her constant struggle to have her husband to cohabit with her was only her main intention. She did not ask to marry into royalty, she wanted to make the most of it (as anyone would do.
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Most of it was historically accurate- even young Queen Charlotte asking for her face to be painted accurately.
It would make sense would it not/
Her wanting an heir was to secure ''our line''
She was a strong character, not a corrupt monarch either and her constant struggle to have her husband to cohabit with her was only her main intention. She did not ask to marry into royalty, she wanted to make the most of it (as anyone would do.
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titisarah09
I personally liked the changes they made like even when he is old he still has moments of somewhat clarity. N how she is always waiting n hoping for those moments. N how happy she is when they happen. And the part where he prob saved her life and their baby's life. everyone on the show feels bad for the queen and notices her unhappiness. But she had something that not everyone back then had she loves and was loved.
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I personally liked the changes they made like even when he is old he still has moments of somewhat clarity. N how she is always waiting n hoping for those moments. N how happy she is when they happen. And the part where he prob saved her life and their baby's life. everyone on the show feels bad for the queen and notices her unhappiness. But she had something that not everyone back then had she loves and was loved.
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fanjoy
You forgot to mention George ii, in the series the princess claim that king George ii was a cruel man. But in fact her husband was a selfish person. One time the king got stuck in a storm while sailing back to England. And when he thought his father died. he organised a party to celebrate until the news came that the king was fine. So ya George ii was a good person unlike his son or father who buth were harsh man
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You forgot to mention George ii, in the series the princess claim that king George ii was a cruel man. But in fact her husband was a selfish person. One time the king got stuck in a storm while sailing back to England. And when he thought his father died. he organised a party to celebrate until the news came that the king was fine. So ya George ii was a good person unlike his son or father who buth were harsh man
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Sasha
As a person who suffered from neurological and psychological disorders i noticed that King George III looked like he suffered from Manic Bipolar Disorder and Seizures. I noticed some of the same things i went through over the last 7 years in his character. But we'll never know truly. I did love how in the show Charlotte asked if there were medicinal herbs being grown. that couldve helped The King with His nerves.
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As a person who suffered from neurological and psychological disorders i noticed that King George III looked like he suffered from Manic Bipolar Disorder and Seizures. I noticed some of the same things i went through over the last 7 years in his character. But we'll never know truly. I did love how in the show Charlotte asked if there were medicinal herbs being grown. that couldve helped The King with His nerves.
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Ibn-Mahmoud
I am puzzled what is the idea behind replacing historical figures with known ethnical background by actors from a different ethnical background its weird. Does this go 360 degrees? Then there should be no objection having Mandela being played by white south-African or MLK by a Chinese, Shaka Zulu by Ryan Gosling. These examples seem idiotic, exactly so it this. Sorry this does not feel right
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I am puzzled what is the idea behind replacing historical figures with known ethnical background by actors from a different ethnical background its weird. Does this go 360 degrees? Then there should be no objection having Mandela being played by white south-African or MLK by a Chinese, Shaka Zulu by Ryan Gosling. These examples seem idiotic, exactly so it this. Sorry this does not feel right
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Suzy
They got the strongest points of their story right and that made me so happy! Mentioning her birthplace in the very beginning was everything for me and I knew it was going to be good! We went there last year. It is called Mirow and used to belong to the duchy of Mecklenburg-Strelitz in Germany. Charlotte, NC is named after her as is our county, Mecklenburg County.
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They got the strongest points of their story right and that made me so happy! Mentioning her birthplace in the very beginning was everything for me and I knew it was going to be good! We went there last year. It is called Mirow and used to belong to the duchy of Mecklenburg-Strelitz in Germany. Charlotte, NC is named after her as is our county, Mecklenburg County.
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Tim
She was white and the blood disorder she passed down to her granddaughter Queen Victoria heamophilia b factor IX, proves it beyond doubt as Nigro women can't contract this disorder due their ability to produce excess factor IX. Which means she never had any Nigro black blood in her let alone her being black.
Domine Salvum Fac Regum Tim
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She was white and the blood disorder she passed down to her granddaughter Queen Victoria heamophilia b factor IX, proves it beyond doubt as Nigro women can't contract this disorder due their ability to produce excess factor IX. Which means she never had any Nigro black blood in her let alone her being black.
Domine Salvum Fac Regum Tim
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Nessa
Who was the man crying over over Princess Charlotte's body in her coffin? Was it her dad? He was calling Queen Charlotte mother so I'm assuming it wasn't Princess Charlotte's husband Prince Leopold (he was the brother of the future Queen Victoria's mom who we saw marry Prince Edward in this show and then announce that she was pregnant)
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Who was the man crying over over Princess Charlotte's body in her coffin? Was it her dad? He was calling Queen Charlotte mother so I'm assuming it wasn't Princess Charlotte's husband Prince Leopold (he was the brother of the future Queen Victoria's mom who we saw marry Prince Edward in this show and then announce that she was pregnant)
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Julia
There is a huge tribute on the tomb of George 4 daughter, with angels raising her to heaven. Her death lead to the accessions of William 4 who had no legitimate heirs and Queen Victoria, whose children's marriages lead to a genetic link between European royalty, such as the late Queen Elizabeth 2 and her husband Prince Phillip.
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There is a huge tribute on the tomb of George 4 daughter, with angels raising her to heaven. Her death lead to the accessions of William 4 who had no legitimate heirs and Queen Victoria, whose children's marriages lead to a genetic link between European royalty, such as the late Queen Elizabeth 2 and her husband Prince Phillip.
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Eiko
I enjoy watching this show but no, I disagree with your picks.
My #1 pick would be: the great experiment. Wrong. Racism does not disappear just because a King marries a black woman. Thats not how anything works. And the real King George III and Queen Charlotte were proponents of the transatlantic slave trade.
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I enjoy watching this show but no, I disagree with your picks.
My #1 pick would be: the great experiment. Wrong. Racism does not disappear just because a King marries a black woman. Thats not how anything works. And the real King George III and Queen Charlotte were proponents of the transatlantic slave trade.
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DANIEL
Don't take me wrong I'm not against black beside my mother adopted a child who black American. , I see there few black people in this movie making a history story but there is a big problem I don't believe the queen was black For big reason why that time the slave of black Africa was not free yet
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Don't take me wrong I'm not against black beside my mother adopted a child who black American. , I see there few black people in this movie making a history story but there is a big problem I don't believe the queen was black For big reason why that time the slave of black Africa was not free yet
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COLA7UPS
You sound as though you were present during that time. Many things shown on television and at the movies are not factually true, some are pure lies, especially the news. A factually right or wrong cannot be done, unless you were present at the scene. Otherwise, it is just hear say.
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You sound as though you were present during that time. Many things shown on television and at the movies are not factually true, some are pure lies, especially the news. A factually right or wrong cannot be done, unless you were present at the scene. Otherwise, it is just hear say.
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fanjoy
the part where George says This is your house is actually correct: Buckingham House was called at one point The Queen's House
maybe the script actually intended to say princess royal in small letters as a sort of adjective, not the title with big letters
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the part where George says This is your house is actually correct: Buckingham House was called at one point The Queen's House
maybe the script actually intended to say princess royal in small letters as a sort of adjective, not the title with big letters
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liv
Im sorry but this text book cultural appropriation not diversity! Funny how ppl go crazy (its cultural appropriation)when a white woman have braids then again these ppl dont even know that Vikings had braided hair long before black ppl so give me a F break
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Im sorry but this text book cultural appropriation not diversity! Funny how ppl go crazy (its cultural appropriation)when a white woman have braids then again these ppl dont even know that Vikings had braided hair long before black ppl so give me a F break
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Kateybee42
I love the fact that Farmer George was REAL! I always thought it was a sweet nickname that he called himself. To think people actually teased him about it. Honestly, I think I love it more. Goes to show that the series wasn't that far off.
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I love the fact that Farmer George was REAL! I always thought it was a sweet nickname that he called himself. To think people actually teased him about it. Honestly, I think I love it more. Goes to show that the series wasn't that far off.
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Cocomel
Anybody who has watched the show sees theres a disclaimer at the start of the show that says its fictional and characters and events were purposely done as such. This video is purely to give people a history lesson; not to knock the show.
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Anybody who has watched the show sees theres a disclaimer at the start of the show that says its fictional and characters and events were purposely done as such. This video is purely to give people a history lesson; not to knock the show.
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Godis4me1978
I don't care what was accurate. there is a disclaimer. we loved every second of it and i bought the Bridgerton books and shows couldn't stay interested in either. this got me. love Charlotte. maybe cause she reminds me of myself. ijs
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I don't care what was accurate. there is a disclaimer. we loved every second of it and i bought the Bridgerton books and shows couldn't stay interested in either. this got me. love Charlotte. maybe cause she reminds me of myself. ijs
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Nata
Onset of the disease was in around 50 years old. I get they wanted this to be dramatic tension but really hate that they did this. I think the fact they were in love and so close for so long makes it more heartbreaking.
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Onset of the disease was in around 50 years old. I get they wanted this to be dramatic tension but really hate that they did this. I think the fact they were in love and so close for so long makes it more heartbreaking.
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ImageInk
George III may have suffered from porphyria. Theres some evidence that other royal descendants and pre descendants may have had it as well. I believe theres some evidence that his symptoms align with this disorder.
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George III may have suffered from porphyria. Theres some evidence that other royal descendants and pre descendants may have had it as well. I believe theres some evidence that his symptoms align with this disorder.
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Sulla153
The biggest error is 99% of British royalty and upper class was not black but continue complaining about Cultural appropriation. How does it feel? Thats right, its not about equality its about leftist revenge.
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The biggest error is 99% of British royalty and upper class was not black but continue complaining about Cultural appropriation. How does it feel? Thats right, its not about equality its about leftist revenge.
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Dream
Who cares! done with your campaign to educate according to you, that pic is an ambiguous one, interpret as YOU choose, and why would she not have been a biracial gal, were you there to ensure otherwise? REST!
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Who cares! done with your campaign to educate according to you, that pic is an ambiguous one, interpret as YOU choose, and why would she not have been a biracial gal, were you there to ensure otherwise? REST!
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The
The most obvious thing is that they replaced a white woman with a black woman and that you dont have the courage or decency to admit it. Its amazing how everything pushed on us is an inversion of reality now.
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The most obvious thing is that they replaced a white woman with a black woman and that you dont have the courage or decency to admit it. Its amazing how everything pushed on us is an inversion of reality now.
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