
The Rise, Fall and Potential Redemption of the MCU PART 1
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Date: 2023-12-24
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SirsasthNigam.
Closest to Daredevil film- Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 46% with an average rating of 5. 5/10, based on 410 reviews. The site's critics consensus reads: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania mostly lacks the spark of fun that elevated earlier adventures, but Jonathan Majors' Kang is a thrilling villain poised to alter the course of the MCU.
Closest to Inhumans- Secret Invasion-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 53%, with an average score of 6. 1/10, based on 197 reviews. The site's critic's consensus states: A well-deserved showcase for Samuel L. Jackson, Secret Invasion steadies itself after a somewhat slow start by taking the MCU in a darker, more mature direction.
The Marvel Razzies-1-Morbius-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 15% based on 283 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10. The website's critics consensus reads, Cursed with uninspired effects, rote performances, and a borderline nonsensical story, this dreary mess is a vein [sic] attempt to make Morbius happen. [112] It ranks as the 16th worst-reviewed superhero movie on the site.
2-Daredevil film-On review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes 43% of critics gave the film positive feedback, based on 228 reviews, with an average rating of 5. 2/10. The critical consensus reads, While Ben Affleck fits the role and the story is sporadically interesting, Daredevil is ultimately a dull, brooding origin story that fails to bring anything new to the genre.
3-Howard The Duck-Howard the Duck received mainly negative reviews from critics. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 13%, based on 83 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10, making it the lowest-rated Lucasfilm production. The site's consensus states: While it has its moments, Howard the Duck suffers from an uneven tone and mediocre performances.
Worst of Marvel-Fant4stic-On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 9% of 263 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 3. 6/10. The website's consensus reads: Dull and downbeat, this Fantastic Four proves a woefully misguided attempt to translate a classic comic series without the humor, joy, or colorful thrills that made it great. [1] As of 2023, it the lowest-rated film on Rotten Tomatoes out of all theatrical films based on Marvel Comics properties.
The WORST of MCU-Inhumans-The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 11% approval rating, with an average rating of 3. 70/10 based on 47 reviews. The website's consensus states, Marvel's Inhumans sets a new low standard for the MCU with an unimaginative narrative, dull design work, weak characters, and disengaging soapy melodrama. Reviewing the season, Matt Liparota of Destructoid concluded, Inhumans is a work with almost nothing of value for anyone. It's not even an interesting train wreck. It's just a boring, lifeless slog easily shooting to the top of the list of the worst things the MCU has produced in its near-decade of existence.
The DC Razzies- Catwoman-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 8% based on 197 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 2/10. The site's critical consensus reads: Halle Berry is the lone bright spot, but even she can't save this laughable action thriller.
BvS-On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes the film has an approval rating of 29% based on 439 reviews and an average rating of 5/10. The website's critical consensus reads: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice smothers a potentially powerful story and some of America's most iconic superheroes in a grim whirlwind of effects-driven action.
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Closest to Daredevil film- Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 46% with an average rating of 5. 5/10, based on 410 reviews. The site's critics consensus reads: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania mostly lacks the spark of fun that elevated earlier adventures, but Jonathan Majors' Kang is a thrilling villain poised to alter the course of the MCU.
Closest to Inhumans- Secret Invasion-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 53%, with an average score of 6. 1/10, based on 197 reviews. The site's critic's consensus states: A well-deserved showcase for Samuel L. Jackson, Secret Invasion steadies itself after a somewhat slow start by taking the MCU in a darker, more mature direction.
The Marvel Razzies-1-Morbius-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 15% based on 283 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10. The website's critics consensus reads, Cursed with uninspired effects, rote performances, and a borderline nonsensical story, this dreary mess is a vein [sic] attempt to make Morbius happen. [112] It ranks as the 16th worst-reviewed superhero movie on the site.
2-Daredevil film-On review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes 43% of critics gave the film positive feedback, based on 228 reviews, with an average rating of 5. 2/10. The critical consensus reads, While Ben Affleck fits the role and the story is sporadically interesting, Daredevil is ultimately a dull, brooding origin story that fails to bring anything new to the genre.
3-Howard The Duck-Howard the Duck received mainly negative reviews from critics. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 13%, based on 83 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10, making it the lowest-rated Lucasfilm production. The site's consensus states: While it has its moments, Howard the Duck suffers from an uneven tone and mediocre performances.
Worst of Marvel-Fant4stic-On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 9% of 263 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 3. 6/10. The website's consensus reads: Dull and downbeat, this Fantastic Four proves a woefully misguided attempt to translate a classic comic series without the humor, joy, or colorful thrills that made it great. [1] As of 2023, it the lowest-rated film on Rotten Tomatoes out of all theatrical films based on Marvel Comics properties.
The WORST of MCU-Inhumans-The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 11% approval rating, with an average rating of 3. 70/10 based on 47 reviews. The website's consensus states, Marvel's Inhumans sets a new low standard for the MCU with an unimaginative narrative, dull design work, weak characters, and disengaging soapy melodrama. Reviewing the season, Matt Liparota of Destructoid concluded, Inhumans is a work with almost nothing of value for anyone. It's not even an interesting train wreck. It's just a boring, lifeless slog easily shooting to the top of the list of the worst things the MCU has produced in its near-decade of existence.
The DC Razzies- Catwoman-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 8% based on 197 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 2/10. The site's critical consensus reads: Halle Berry is the lone bright spot, but even she can't save this laughable action thriller.
BvS-On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes the film has an approval rating of 29% based on 439 reviews and an average rating of 5/10. The website's critical consensus reads: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice smothers a potentially powerful story and some of America's most iconic superheroes in a grim whirlwind of effects-driven action.
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SirsasthNigam.
Closest to Daredevil film- Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 46% with an average rating of 5. 5/10, based on 410 reviews. The site's critics consensus reads: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania mostly lacks the spark of fun that elevated earlier adventures, but Jonathan Majors' Kang is a thrilling villain poised to alter the course of the MCU.
Closest to Inhumans- Secret Invasion-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 53%, with an average score of 6. 1/10, based on 197 reviews. The site's critic's consensus states: A well-deserved showcase for Samuel L. Jackson, Secret Invasion steadies itself after a somewhat slow start by taking the MCU in a darker, more mature direction.
The Marvel Razzies-1-Morbius-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 15% based on 283 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10. The website's critics consensus reads, Cursed with uninspired effects, rote performances, and a borderline nonsensical story, this dreary mess is a vein [sic] attempt to make Morbius happen. [112] It ranks as the 16th worst-reviewed superhero movie on the site.
2-Daredevil film-On review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes 43% of critics gave the film positive feedback, based on 228 reviews, with an average rating of 5. 2/10. The critical consensus reads, While Ben Affleck fits the role and the story is sporadically interesting, Daredevil is ultimately a dull, brooding origin story that fails to bring anything new to the genre.
3-Howard The Duck-Howard the Duck received mainly negative reviews from critics. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 13%, based on 83 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10, making it the lowest-rated Lucasfilm production. The site's consensus states: While it has its moments, Howard the Duck suffers from an uneven tone and mediocre performances.
Worst of Marvel-Fant4stic-On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 9% of 263 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 3. 6/10. The website's consensus reads: Dull and downbeat, this Fantastic Four proves a woefully misguided attempt to translate a classic comic series without the humor, joy, or colorful thrills that made it great. [1] As of 2023, it the lowest-rated film on Rotten Tomatoes out of all theatrical films based on Marvel Comics properties.
The WORST of MCU-Inhumans-The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 11% approval rating, with an average rating of 3. 70/10 based on 47 reviews. The website's consensus states, Marvel's Inhumans sets a new low standard for the MCU with an unimaginative narrative, dull design work, weak characters, and disengaging soapy melodrama. Reviewing the season, Matt Liparota of Destructoid concluded, Inhumans is a work with almost nothing of value for anyone. It's not even an interesting train wreck. It's just a boring, lifeless slog easily shooting to the top of the list of the worst things the MCU has produced in its near-decade of existence.
The DC Razzies- Catwoman-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 8% based on 197 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 2/10. The site's critical consensus reads: Halle Berry is the lone bright spot, but even she can't save this laughable action thriller.
BvS-On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes the film has an approval rating of 29% based on 439 reviews and an average rating of 5/10. The website's critical consensus reads: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice smothers a potentially powerful story and some of America's most iconic superheroes in a grim whirlwind of effects-driven action.
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Closest to Daredevil film- Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 46% with an average rating of 5. 5/10, based on 410 reviews. The site's critics consensus reads: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania mostly lacks the spark of fun that elevated earlier adventures, but Jonathan Majors' Kang is a thrilling villain poised to alter the course of the MCU.
Closest to Inhumans- Secret Invasion-
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 53%, with an average score of 6. 1/10, based on 197 reviews. The site's critic's consensus states: A well-deserved showcase for Samuel L. Jackson, Secret Invasion steadies itself after a somewhat slow start by taking the MCU in a darker, more mature direction.
The Marvel Razzies-1-Morbius-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 15% based on 283 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10. The website's critics consensus reads, Cursed with uninspired effects, rote performances, and a borderline nonsensical story, this dreary mess is a vein [sic] attempt to make Morbius happen. [112] It ranks as the 16th worst-reviewed superhero movie on the site.
2-Daredevil film-On review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes 43% of critics gave the film positive feedback, based on 228 reviews, with an average rating of 5. 2/10. The critical consensus reads, While Ben Affleck fits the role and the story is sporadically interesting, Daredevil is ultimately a dull, brooding origin story that fails to bring anything new to the genre.
3-Howard The Duck-Howard the Duck received mainly negative reviews from critics. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 13%, based on 83 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 8/10, making it the lowest-rated Lucasfilm production. The site's consensus states: While it has its moments, Howard the Duck suffers from an uneven tone and mediocre performances.
Worst of Marvel-Fant4stic-On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 9% of 263 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 3. 6/10. The website's consensus reads: Dull and downbeat, this Fantastic Four proves a woefully misguided attempt to translate a classic comic series without the humor, joy, or colorful thrills that made it great. [1] As of 2023, it the lowest-rated film on Rotten Tomatoes out of all theatrical films based on Marvel Comics properties.
The WORST of MCU-Inhumans-The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 11% approval rating, with an average rating of 3. 70/10 based on 47 reviews. The website's consensus states, Marvel's Inhumans sets a new low standard for the MCU with an unimaginative narrative, dull design work, weak characters, and disengaging soapy melodrama. Reviewing the season, Matt Liparota of Destructoid concluded, Inhumans is a work with almost nothing of value for anyone. It's not even an interesting train wreck. It's just a boring, lifeless slog easily shooting to the top of the list of the worst things the MCU has produced in its near-decade of existence.
The DC Razzies- Catwoman-On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 8% based on 197 reviews, with an average rating of 3. 2/10. The site's critical consensus reads: Halle Berry is the lone bright spot, but even she can't save this laughable action thriller.
BvS-On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes the film has an approval rating of 29% based on 439 reviews and an average rating of 5/10. The website's critical consensus reads: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice smothers a potentially powerful story and some of America's most iconic superheroes in a grim whirlwind of effects-driven action.
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ubercoo
A lot of this comes down to bad and inconsistent long form writing & structure. Marvel's biggest issue is their lack of continuity. Phases 1-3 of the Infinity Saga were great because even though each character and movie had their own story or genre, they were evolving meta stories being played out which could allow the general audience to follow along. After Endgame, those over arching theatrical meta stories were abandoned for mass content to encourage streaming subscriptions. Having Marvel Studios come out with only 3-4 movies per year leading up to big event team up movie allowed a general audience to keep up with the pacing. Coupled with this, was the Marvel One Shots and after credit scenes which strung the stories together. The sheer amount of content to watch in phase 4 was equal to all of phase 1-3 combined. Even if Marvel currently has a overarching meta story thread planned, they have not highlighted the seeds enough to stand out among all their other content. The audience only sees that they have been throwing a multiverse spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.
Another factor not talked about is the contrast of other studios making other comic book movies such as DCEU and Fox X-Men or Sony's Spider-Man universe. The competition and contrast of those films helped Marvel Studios stand out as being the Official brand. This also led to an elitism attitude which later transformed into political issues and agendas both on screen and within the fandom. For a long while there were a choir of voices singing but now that Fox X-Men and the DCEU is over there are only 2 voices of Sony and Disney.
On top of all of this, Marvel has also had many set backs such as Chadwick Bosman dying, the writers strike, Victoria Alonso who was in the inner circle fired, reports of overworked CGI artists, Jonathan Majors, and political agendas instead of leading by example. Except for Chadwick, all of these came from bad management decisions. Marvel went from a tightly scheduled train travelling across the country & picking up people along the way to a more direct uber experience that doesn't leave your town.
If Marvel wants to get back on track they need to push back Secret Wars and other finally stories a few years. it took 10 years for Marvel to get to IW and EG which was a fair pacing. They also should not have told the public where they were going to end up, the road to up to Infinity War & EndGame for most general audience was still a mystery and not as clearly laid out compared to the now Multiverse Saga. Marvel should have also did more during the pandemic to prep the next 10 years as well as they should have let the brand cool down after Phase 3. The general audience didn't have enough time to breath after the climax that was IW & EG. In order for Marvel to get the general audience to Secret Wars they currently need to stick the landing with DeadPool 3 AND The Fantastic Four to be early comic accurate. They also screwed up by only having 1 movie in 2024. The gap in MCU content also reduces fandom content to drive the hype.
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A lot of this comes down to bad and inconsistent long form writing & structure. Marvel's biggest issue is their lack of continuity. Phases 1-3 of the Infinity Saga were great because even though each character and movie had their own story or genre, they were evolving meta stories being played out which could allow the general audience to follow along. After Endgame, those over arching theatrical meta stories were abandoned for mass content to encourage streaming subscriptions. Having Marvel Studios come out with only 3-4 movies per year leading up to big event team up movie allowed a general audience to keep up with the pacing. Coupled with this, was the Marvel One Shots and after credit scenes which strung the stories together. The sheer amount of content to watch in phase 4 was equal to all of phase 1-3 combined. Even if Marvel currently has a overarching meta story thread planned, they have not highlighted the seeds enough to stand out among all their other content. The audience only sees that they have been throwing a multiverse spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.
Another factor not talked about is the contrast of other studios making other comic book movies such as DCEU and Fox X-Men or Sony's Spider-Man universe. The competition and contrast of those films helped Marvel Studios stand out as being the Official brand. This also led to an elitism attitude which later transformed into political issues and agendas both on screen and within the fandom. For a long while there were a choir of voices singing but now that Fox X-Men and the DCEU is over there are only 2 voices of Sony and Disney.
On top of all of this, Marvel has also had many set backs such as Chadwick Bosman dying, the writers strike, Victoria Alonso who was in the inner circle fired, reports of overworked CGI artists, Jonathan Majors, and political agendas instead of leading by example. Except for Chadwick, all of these came from bad management decisions. Marvel went from a tightly scheduled train travelling across the country & picking up people along the way to a more direct uber experience that doesn't leave your town.
If Marvel wants to get back on track they need to push back Secret Wars and other finally stories a few years. it took 10 years for Marvel to get to IW and EG which was a fair pacing. They also should not have told the public where they were going to end up, the road to up to Infinity War & EndGame for most general audience was still a mystery and not as clearly laid out compared to the now Multiverse Saga. Marvel should have also did more during the pandemic to prep the next 10 years as well as they should have let the brand cool down after Phase 3. The general audience didn't have enough time to breath after the climax that was IW & EG. In order for Marvel to get the general audience to Secret Wars they currently need to stick the landing with DeadPool 3 AND The Fantastic Four to be early comic accurate. They also screwed up by only having 1 movie in 2024. The gap in MCU content also reduces fandom content to drive the hype.
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SirsasthNigam.
EWW CinemaSins DSMOM
CinemaSins-I can still hear the cheers in the theater but I honestly think the scene will come to be seen as the worst Christmas ever imagine you get every single present on your list even the limited edition ones the ones that no one else liked or the ones that were murdered by fonka Johnson and resurrected by Brian Singer all of them you get to play with them for a while but the next day your parents hide all the presents in the basement and don't tell you when you're next able to play with them then instead of hiding all the presents in the basement the parents burn them all in front of their sobbing kids
Th3Birdman-oh so you're on that side of the argument day you know the one with ridiculous people on the internet criticizing this movie for killing off these characters completely oblivious to the fact that this movie deals with the Multiverse it literally confirms the existence of these characters in the MCU and lets you know they're coming Earth 199999's version of these characters were not killed
I'm just gonna go off script here and go on little tangent this is ridiculous for a lot of reasons uh mainly because they literally show you Thanos in this movie you know uh the other movie we saw Thanos in Infinity War are there two Thanos oh mind blown right you people are ridiculous sitting here saying oh this movie sucks because we killed the Fantastic Four in the [Music] end seriously dude it's a Multiverse movie they're literally saying there are multiple versions of these characters you idiot they also kill Thanos we saw a whole nother movie where they killed Thanos a whole different way do you get it
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EWW CinemaSins DSMOM
CinemaSins-I can still hear the cheers in the theater but I honestly think the scene will come to be seen as the worst Christmas ever imagine you get every single present on your list even the limited edition ones the ones that no one else liked or the ones that were murdered by fonka Johnson and resurrected by Brian Singer all of them you get to play with them for a while but the next day your parents hide all the presents in the basement and don't tell you when you're next able to play with them then instead of hiding all the presents in the basement the parents burn them all in front of their sobbing kids
Th3Birdman-oh so you're on that side of the argument day you know the one with ridiculous people on the internet criticizing this movie for killing off these characters completely oblivious to the fact that this movie deals with the Multiverse it literally confirms the existence of these characters in the MCU and lets you know they're coming Earth 199999's version of these characters were not killed
I'm just gonna go off script here and go on little tangent this is ridiculous for a lot of reasons uh mainly because they literally show you Thanos in this movie you know uh the other movie we saw Thanos in Infinity War are there two Thanos oh mind blown right you people are ridiculous sitting here saying oh this movie sucks because we killed the Fantastic Four in the [Music] end seriously dude it's a Multiverse movie they're literally saying there are multiple versions of these characters you idiot they also kill Thanos we saw a whole nother movie where they killed Thanos a whole different way do you get it
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SirsasthNigam.
EWW CinemaSins DSMOM
CinemaSins-previously on Wanda Vision what's WandaVision oh it's just a six hour TV show that you need to have watched so you can fully appreciate what's happening in this movie well it's about making it completely redundant
Th3Birdman- that was a lot of BS in a lot of words this is not one of those instances where you can books don't matter this away the MCU is interconnected and they have established
that fact over the past 14 years at this point an entire child was born and is now entering High School in the span of time from the first Iron Man movie till now if you are missing MCU shows and films for one reason or another you cannot blame anyone but yourself for being lost if you then attempt to jump back in at a later point and
WandaVision was not made redundant by this film it set up Infinity gemless Vision Agatha Harkness spectrum and the darkhold
Wanda-I made mistakes and people were hurt
CinemaSins- all true but the main thing is that
you've learned from those mistakes on a ready to move on there's no way this movie would undo an entire season of character growth in 90 minutes right
TH3Birdman- right again you've missed the point Wanda is under the influence of the darkhold I mean it's in the name the darkhold that's one of the major plot points of this film that whoever uses the Darkhold will be corrupted in some way the very end of WandaVision shows her using the Darkhold
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EWW CinemaSins DSMOM
CinemaSins-previously on Wanda Vision what's WandaVision oh it's just a six hour TV show that you need to have watched so you can fully appreciate what's happening in this movie well it's about making it completely redundant
Th3Birdman- that was a lot of BS in a lot of words this is not one of those instances where you can books don't matter this away the MCU is interconnected and they have established
that fact over the past 14 years at this point an entire child was born and is now entering High School in the span of time from the first Iron Man movie till now if you are missing MCU shows and films for one reason or another you cannot blame anyone but yourself for being lost if you then attempt to jump back in at a later point and
WandaVision was not made redundant by this film it set up Infinity gemless Vision Agatha Harkness spectrum and the darkhold
Wanda-I made mistakes and people were hurt
CinemaSins- all true but the main thing is that
you've learned from those mistakes on a ready to move on there's no way this movie would undo an entire season of character growth in 90 minutes right
TH3Birdman- right again you've missed the point Wanda is under the influence of the darkhold I mean it's in the name the darkhold that's one of the major plot points of this film that whoever uses the Darkhold will be corrupted in some way the very end of WandaVision shows her using the Darkhold
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hunterrousseau3770
True fact:
There was an alternate deleted post-credit scene for Iron Man (2008) where Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury says As if gamma accidents, radioactive bug bites, and assorted mutants weren t enough, I have to deal with a spoiled brat who doesn t play well with others and keeps all of his toys to himself, meaning that this was the intended Marvel Universe they were going for, but couldn't use it because characters like: The Hulk, Spider-Man, and The X-Men were still owned by studios like: Universal, Sony, and 20th Century Fox (long before it became 20th Century Studios when Disney acquired them) still owned them at the time before. And, now that Marvel have gotten their hands on them, and they could potentially use the 2015 Secret Wars comic arc in the upcoming movie based on the same name as a way to soft-reboot the overall MCU we could probably get the intended cinematic universe version of the Marvel Universe we never got before
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True fact:
There was an alternate deleted post-credit scene for Iron Man (2008) where Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury says As if gamma accidents, radioactive bug bites, and assorted mutants weren t enough, I have to deal with a spoiled brat who doesn t play well with others and keeps all of his toys to himself, meaning that this was the intended Marvel Universe they were going for, but couldn't use it because characters like: The Hulk, Spider-Man, and The X-Men were still owned by studios like: Universal, Sony, and 20th Century Fox (long before it became 20th Century Studios when Disney acquired them) still owned them at the time before. And, now that Marvel have gotten their hands on them, and they could potentially use the 2015 Secret Wars comic arc in the upcoming movie based on the same name as a way to soft-reboot the overall MCU we could probably get the intended cinematic universe version of the Marvel Universe we never got before
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maxmazzotti6651
I would erase everything post Endgame, except for Spiderman FFH and NWH and Guardians 3. Take at least a decade off, find people who would ACTUALLY LIKE to create a Marvel Film Universe with all the great characters like Spider-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers, Daredevil/Marvel Knights, Fantastic Four, and the X-Men while making their stories feel like the comics that so many good people read. Replace activism with entertainment, fire any problematic people like Kevin Feige(Who is a new Kathleen Kennedy, and give it to actual writers/producers/directors/actors who understand the comics and the first 3 phases exceptionally well while being able to keep their politics out. RESPECT THE PAST TO SAVE THE FUTURE! THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS! PURGE THE WOKE! BRING BACK THE GOOD OLD STUFF FOR BOTH COMICS AND MOVIES
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I would erase everything post Endgame, except for Spiderman FFH and NWH and Guardians 3. Take at least a decade off, find people who would ACTUALLY LIKE to create a Marvel Film Universe with all the great characters like Spider-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers, Daredevil/Marvel Knights, Fantastic Four, and the X-Men while making their stories feel like the comics that so many good people read. Replace activism with entertainment, fire any problematic people like Kevin Feige(Who is a new Kathleen Kennedy, and give it to actual writers/producers/directors/actors who understand the comics and the first 3 phases exceptionally well while being able to keep their politics out. RESPECT THE PAST TO SAVE THE FUTURE! THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS! PURGE THE WOKE! BRING BACK THE GOOD OLD STUFF FOR BOTH COMICS AND MOVIES
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Avalon_1991
I think it's over. Endgame was a brilliant ending and most people were happy to end their interest there. People may come back for the odd film like Spiderman No Way Home but it will never reach that level of popularity again.
I think they should have put out Spiderman Far From Home and No Way Home after Endgame then taken a 5 year break to really plan out the future. It should have started again with new characters. The X-Men and the Fantastic Four should have been the focus. The previous characters could have made cameos or just come back for the big team up films but does any really care about many of the remaining characters?
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I think it's over. Endgame was a brilliant ending and most people were happy to end their interest there. People may come back for the odd film like Spiderman No Way Home but it will never reach that level of popularity again.
I think they should have put out Spiderman Far From Home and No Way Home after Endgame then taken a 5 year break to really plan out the future. It should have started again with new characters. The X-Men and the Fantastic Four should have been the focus. The previous characters could have made cameos or just come back for the big team up films but does any really care about many of the remaining characters?
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han-bm6kk
One MCU that I do love is Loki series where the other varriant of Loki who destroyed New York and stole the tesseract and teleported into a sandy place and he captured by the TWA.
He saw his other multiverse that his mom died in the Dark World by protecting Jane from the Malekith and he was killed by Thanos in Infinity War. He and his partner Morbius fix all the problems on the multiverse until he saved many of his friends he quote For you, for all of us and becoming God of Everyone's Stories best ending in season 2.
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One MCU that I do love is Loki series where the other varriant of Loki who destroyed New York and stole the tesseract and teleported into a sandy place and he captured by the TWA.
He saw his other multiverse that his mom died in the Dark World by protecting Jane from the Malekith and he was killed by Thanos in Infinity War. He and his partner Morbius fix all the problems on the multiverse until he saved many of his friends he quote For you, for all of us and becoming God of Everyone's Stories best ending in season 2.
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jpstevens938
At the root of it being woke is hurting the MCU. They hired relatively inexperienced diverse people to oversee things like She-Hulk and the Marvels. Phase 4 and 5 have been predominantly female. Even supposedly male led movies like Quantumania and Multiverse of Madness, the hero is outnumbered by females. Superhero is predominantly a male brand and they re trying to turn everything into princess and it doesn t work. Say what you will but boys still want to buy Batman toys more than Captain Marvel or Black Widow.
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At the root of it being woke is hurting the MCU. They hired relatively inexperienced diverse people to oversee things like She-Hulk and the Marvels. Phase 4 and 5 have been predominantly female. Even supposedly male led movies like Quantumania and Multiverse of Madness, the hero is outnumbered by females. Superhero is predominantly a male brand and they re trying to turn everything into princess and it doesn t work. Say what you will but boys still want to buy Batman toys more than Captain Marvel or Black Widow.
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darthnowlan
There is no fall of the MCU this title of the video is all a damn lie! The MCU is still very good. Yeah some of the shows in Phase 4 were really bad like Wandavision, FATWS, She-Hulk and What If season 1, and Loki season 1 but the MCU is still great. I just wish Feige wouldn't be an idiot and have the older and better MCU shows, Agents of SHIELD, Daredevil, Agent Carter, Iron Fist etc as part of the MCU canon as well. As they should be!
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There is no fall of the MCU this title of the video is all a damn lie! The MCU is still very good. Yeah some of the shows in Phase 4 were really bad like Wandavision, FATWS, She-Hulk and What If season 1, and Loki season 1 but the MCU is still great. I just wish Feige wouldn't be an idiot and have the older and better MCU shows, Agents of SHIELD, Daredevil, Agent Carter, Iron Fist etc as part of the MCU canon as well. As they should be!
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watchmojo
I don't make me any hopes for Marvel anymore. Ever since Endgame ended, non of it has been the same. And now recently the Marvels flopped, Brie Larson is trying to leave MCU and now Jonathan Majors has been found guilty and was fired from MCU, and I can't imagine someone else to play Kang, because his performance was fantastic. With all that, what is happening to Marvel in recent years, can we just all agree that the MCU needs to end?
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I don't make me any hopes for Marvel anymore. Ever since Endgame ended, non of it has been the same. And now recently the Marvels flopped, Brie Larson is trying to leave MCU and now Jonathan Majors has been found guilty and was fired from MCU, and I can't imagine someone else to play Kang, because his performance was fantastic. With all that, what is happening to Marvel in recent years, can we just all agree that the MCU needs to end?
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hunterrousseau3770
I do believe the overall MCU is getting really exhausting to keep up with after The Multiverse Saga started after The Infinity Saga ended. I mean, they've got timelines, the multiverse, and the quantum realm. And to top it all off, She-Hulk even exposed that none of their universe is even real and that she can just make the writers change it when she wants to at any point and it's like: WHERE IS ALL THIS GOING!
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I do believe the overall MCU is getting really exhausting to keep up with after The Multiverse Saga started after The Infinity Saga ended. I mean, they've got timelines, the multiverse, and the quantum realm. And to top it all off, She-Hulk even exposed that none of their universe is even real and that she can just make the writers change it when she wants to at any point and it's like: WHERE IS ALL THIS GOING!
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andrerendon7837
Altering the canon material to please the Social Justice Warriors is ridiculous to me. Don't get me wrong but if it's fresh material than yes put in some diversity into them but don't alter the original and classic material to please a group of people that won't ever be satisfied no matter how much diversity and social justice you put into it they will always find something wrong to complain about.
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Altering the canon material to please the Social Justice Warriors is ridiculous to me. Don't get me wrong but if it's fresh material than yes put in some diversity into them but don't alter the original and classic material to please a group of people that won't ever be satisfied no matter how much diversity and social justice you put into it they will always find something wrong to complain about.
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KenDAKL4ever
Good points, but agenda pushing and piss poor writing along with no feeling of being in the same universe anymore are the main issues. Subplots have been thrown out there and never heard from again. Ms Marvel and Iron Heart are not interesting and not asked for. She-hulk, a fan favorite, was used to troll haters instead of giving her a good show. Marvel is done.
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Good points, but agenda pushing and piss poor writing along with no feeling of being in the same universe anymore are the main issues. Subplots have been thrown out there and never heard from again. Ms Marvel and Iron Heart are not interesting and not asked for. She-hulk, a fan favorite, was used to troll haters instead of giving her a good show. Marvel is done.
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gwennmichaud9843
Just remove woke and diversity shit, put decent (old) special effect, fire the wokes screenwriter and boom job done.
Good old heroes movies for the good target: 40 yo virgins white dude and if it please this viewers, everyone will enjoy those movies.
Fire Brie Larson and Kathleen Kennedy.
Do the New Avengers around Spider Man or a shit like that.
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Just remove woke and diversity shit, put decent (old) special effect, fire the wokes screenwriter and boom job done.
Good old heroes movies for the good target: 40 yo virgins white dude and if it please this viewers, everyone will enjoy those movies.
Fire Brie Larson and Kathleen Kennedy.
Do the New Avengers around Spider Man or a shit like that.
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Eddy-ov4tx
Female led movies in phase 4/5 is not the reason why those movies sucked.
Those movies sucked because the STORY, character development and lack of consistency SUCKED.
Has nothing to do with female lead super heroes - just the way it was written and the characters they used
Doesn t help that majority of the MOST popular heroes are men.
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Female led movies in phase 4/5 is not the reason why those movies sucked.
Those movies sucked because the STORY, character development and lack of consistency SUCKED.
Has nothing to do with female lead super heroes - just the way it was written and the characters they used
Doesn t help that majority of the MOST popular heroes are men.
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logantrimble006
I don't hate female characters, I just hate how Marvel is allowing feminism to become too mainstream in their projects. I want male and female leads to be equally balanced without saying that men are toxic. I'm proud to be a man, so i naturally don't gravitate towards feminism. Don't put social justice into products, you will lose money.
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I don't hate female characters, I just hate how Marvel is allowing feminism to become too mainstream in their projects. I want male and female leads to be equally balanced without saying that men are toxic. I'm proud to be a man, so i naturally don't gravitate towards feminism. Don't put social justice into products, you will lose money.
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watchmojo
It s all so much I don t know where to begin.
They should have done better they should have been better. Promoting too many contents won t buy the fans back in the MCU because of the pandemic.
They could have been better. And what would I do if I was in charge?
Well, my first task was to listen and listen good.
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It s all so much I don t know where to begin.
They should have done better they should have been better. Promoting too many contents won t buy the fans back in the MCU because of the pandemic.
They could have been better. And what would I do if I was in charge?
Well, my first task was to listen and listen good.
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