On cutting boards, microplastics and bacteria
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Date: 2024-08-09
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Pot Wash! Use wood for bread, salad and maybe fruit by all means if in your own home. Use plastic for meat cooked or raw. Simple. And to avoid splashing dirty water around when it has been has used for raw meat, do the first 'wash' with a low pressure tap low down in the sink. Don't fill the sink, put your detergent on your sponge cloth or scrubber. and never use the same one for the first 'clean' as you do to your 'finish it off rinse'. There are so many kinds of sponge scrubber etc you can always find two that work work but are really different so you won't confuse them. I also recommend Baby equipment sterilizing solution to clean your cloths etc. It has has a lot less other crap than normal Chlorine Beach but still contains the chemical you need and works very well. Just read the instructions. ( UK Kitchen Porter speaking here, but the advice is good - Oh and it's red for raw meat. Brown for cooked meat. Green for general veg. It blue for fish, though some countries use white but in The UK white at least used to be the plastic version of wood ( Though we can use it we just have two different shapes of them so we never confuse who is salad and who is bread as need different washing styles and no wood wood goes in the sink. It is between getting a pair of fresh run sinks that they should be done under a running tap once I've mucked the damn thing out. Always wash cleanest to dirtiest then redo! ) for bread and washed 'about to serve' salad. Two different shaped wood boards can also be used for these. Ps - Yellow for cheese or other dairy. ) Another PS - If anyone in a kitchen chucks anything that has raw meat on it in MY SINKS - I will Go Ballistic. Normally I want I want them to chuck it in my sink and I'll wash it up - But not if it has had raw or suchlike ( Such as customer cutlery ) on it, especially if sharp or horribly hot. Poke me about it and put to the side. Do not contaminate MY SINKS. If I am working the shift these are MY SINKS! I could exceeding territorial about MY SINKS. Even owner, Manger and Head Chef won't mess with me. Well I will dead butt cheek if I anything annoying of course so will he. But this is just good kitchens. The other Chefs can sod off. And yes I've had several chefs offer to teach me to become a chef - Back then but all I wanted to do was wash dishes I just have to learn how the whole kitchen operates in order to do it in the right way so sometimes I 'Scrubbed in to Surgery' and had to cook but I hate it. Anyway again and also. See splinters don't scare me, a blue plaster is all that's needed. No it is the sharper than a surgeons scalpel main prized chefs kn'fs and burning hot ceramic and metal things and far too many really busy people in a very small and hot space all wielding these hot sharp objects that bother me - That's what I care about. Anyway. For most homes, not commercial places, you only need to have one wood and one plastic. Just wash each carefully and don't confuse them.
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Pot Wash! Use wood for bread, salad and maybe fruit by all means if in your own home. Use plastic for meat cooked or raw. Simple. And to avoid splashing dirty water around when it has been has used for raw meat, do the first 'wash' with a low pressure tap low down in the sink. Don't fill the sink, put your detergent on your sponge cloth or scrubber. and never use the same one for the first 'clean' as you do to your 'finish it off rinse'. There are so many kinds of sponge scrubber etc you can always find two that work work but are really different so you won't confuse them. I also recommend Baby equipment sterilizing solution to clean your cloths etc. It has has a lot less other crap than normal Chlorine Beach but still contains the chemical you need and works very well. Just read the instructions. ( UK Kitchen Porter speaking here, but the advice is good - Oh and it's red for raw meat. Brown for cooked meat. Green for general veg. It blue for fish, though some countries use white but in The UK white at least used to be the plastic version of wood ( Though we can use it we just have two different shapes of them so we never confuse who is salad and who is bread as need different washing styles and no wood wood goes in the sink. It is between getting a pair of fresh run sinks that they should be done under a running tap once I've mucked the damn thing out. Always wash cleanest to dirtiest then redo! ) for bread and washed 'about to serve' salad. Two different shaped wood boards can also be used for these. Ps - Yellow for cheese or other dairy. ) Another PS - If anyone in a kitchen chucks anything that has raw meat on it in MY SINKS - I will Go Ballistic. Normally I want I want them to chuck it in my sink and I'll wash it up - But not if it has had raw or suchlike ( Such as customer cutlery ) on it, especially if sharp or horribly hot. Poke me about it and put to the side. Do not contaminate MY SINKS. If I am working the shift these are MY SINKS! I could exceeding territorial about MY SINKS. Even owner, Manger and Head Chef won't mess with me. Well I will dead butt cheek if I anything annoying of course so will he. But this is just good kitchens. The other Chefs can sod off. And yes I've had several chefs offer to teach me to become a chef - Back then but all I wanted to do was wash dishes I just have to learn how the whole kitchen operates in order to do it in the right way so sometimes I 'Scrubbed in to Surgery' and had to cook but I hate it. Anyway again and also. See splinters don't scare me, a blue plaster is all that's needed. No it is the sharper than a surgeons scalpel main prized chefs kn'fs and burning hot ceramic and metal things and far too many really busy people in a very small and hot space all wielding these hot sharp objects that bother me - That's what I care about. Anyway. For most homes, not commercial places, you only need to have one wood and one plastic. Just wash each carefully and don't confuse them.
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lolmaker777
While there might be little evidence that microplastics are bad for us as humans, you yourself pointed out that there is evidence they are bad for marine animals. And that is where most of those microplastics end up eventually. So that by itself can be a reason not to use them.
As for the point that there is no evidence that microplastics are bad for you, as you pointed out that is mostly by lack of available research. Science needs time to make such claims. Maybe it is inert and does nothing, but the same is true for pfas (anti stick coatings, and evidence is mounting that that is bad for you if you eat it.
Another point is that our body can break down wood, not very well, but good enough to get rid of partials of wood, so anything that does not just move trough your digestive system is eventually broken down. It can not break down plastic, so anything that does not just move through your digestive system stays there until you die.
Those taken together is enough reason for me to want to avoid plastic cutting boards to the extend that i reasonably can.
And to solve the color coding issue, put a color coded piece of rubber on the side of the cutting board like the one you show in the video. Keeps it in place and you still have the color coding while reducing the microplastics generated while cutting.
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While there might be little evidence that microplastics are bad for us as humans, you yourself pointed out that there is evidence they are bad for marine animals. And that is where most of those microplastics end up eventually. So that by itself can be a reason not to use them.
As for the point that there is no evidence that microplastics are bad for you, as you pointed out that is mostly by lack of available research. Science needs time to make such claims. Maybe it is inert and does nothing, but the same is true for pfas (anti stick coatings, and evidence is mounting that that is bad for you if you eat it.
Another point is that our body can break down wood, not very well, but good enough to get rid of partials of wood, so anything that does not just move trough your digestive system is eventually broken down. It can not break down plastic, so anything that does not just move through your digestive system stays there until you die.
Those taken together is enough reason for me to want to avoid plastic cutting boards to the extend that i reasonably can.
And to solve the color coding issue, put a color coded piece of rubber on the side of the cutting board like the one you show in the video. Keeps it in place and you still have the color coding while reducing the microplastics generated while cutting.
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KurtCollier
People are generally really dumb. Almost everyone is really smart about something or even a couple things. but generally even the smartest people are still really dumb. Also, people are control freaks, but have no way to actually control most of the factors in their lives. Like how much plastic or lead they are exposed to.
I don't love how much plastic is in my life, and actively do what I can to reduce how much plastic I use. But it is vacuous and banal to be a jerk to others about small things like this. I'm a vegan, but I don't have a license to be a dick to every other person in the world for what they eat. My best move is to just make really tasty vegan food and offer it to people to show them I'm not just stuck eating lettuce and rice everyday.
be better and appealing so others want to emulate you and be better themselves. being a dick about how your better makes people want to blow their cigarette smoke in your face.
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People are generally really dumb. Almost everyone is really smart about something or even a couple things. but generally even the smartest people are still really dumb. Also, people are control freaks, but have no way to actually control most of the factors in their lives. Like how much plastic or lead they are exposed to.
I don't love how much plastic is in my life, and actively do what I can to reduce how much plastic I use. But it is vacuous and banal to be a jerk to others about small things like this. I'm a vegan, but I don't have a license to be a dick to every other person in the world for what they eat. My best move is to just make really tasty vegan food and offer it to people to show them I'm not just stuck eating lettuce and rice everyday.
be better and appealing so others want to emulate you and be better themselves. being a dick about how your better makes people want to blow their cigarette smoke in your face.
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logicalparadox2897
We don’t know enough to be freaked out by it. Sure we do we can be freaked out that we don’t know enough to know they AREN’T harmful. Right Is that not prudent
I get that the restaurant industry uses plastic cutting boards as a standard. But one could argue that’s a good reason to not eat out all the time. Eat mostly food you make yourself and know what went into it and how it was prepareddown to the kind of pan and cutting boards used, the way the food was stored and handled, the exact ingredients and cooking fats used, etc.
All that said, I do get how it isn’t entirely fair to call out a specific video/chef on this particular point. I probably wouldn’t have done that. But it is the reaction I have whenever I see a video of a chef using Teflon. So I can’t judge. Even though, I myself, do on rare occasions use a plastic cutting board. When it makes sense or is called for.
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We don’t know enough to be freaked out by it. Sure we do we can be freaked out that we don’t know enough to know they AREN’T harmful. Right Is that not prudent
I get that the restaurant industry uses plastic cutting boards as a standard. But one could argue that’s a good reason to not eat out all the time. Eat mostly food you make yourself and know what went into it and how it was prepareddown to the kind of pan and cutting boards used, the way the food was stored and handled, the exact ingredients and cooking fats used, etc.
All that said, I do get how it isn’t entirely fair to call out a specific video/chef on this particular point. I probably wouldn’t have done that. But it is the reaction I have whenever I see a video of a chef using Teflon. So I can’t judge. Even though, I myself, do on rare occasions use a plastic cutting board. When it makes sense or is called for.
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pesteanvstefan5491
Hei Adam, im from europe Denmark and checked out the vitamins you advertise to, first at all you perfectly understand and know that you dont need vitamin suplements as a normal healthy human, then if you dont feel well just go to the doctor and let him tell you if you need to take anything. Second, you can do advertisements to so many perfectly relevant stuff for your subject, food etc bacteria whatever, kitchen utensils etc. Third the last and the reason i write this comment, look brother im from denmark we arent exactly poor around here, we pretty well off, but man common 60 dollars for a month worth of whatever mambo gumbo jumbo woodo magic pills 60 dollars a month! 410 dkk a month for one person Tell the people from gruns to take it easy man.
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Hei Adam, im from europe Denmark and checked out the vitamins you advertise to, first at all you perfectly understand and know that you dont need vitamin suplements as a normal healthy human, then if you dont feel well just go to the doctor and let him tell you if you need to take anything. Second, you can do advertisements to so many perfectly relevant stuff for your subject, food etc bacteria whatever, kitchen utensils etc. Third the last and the reason i write this comment, look brother im from denmark we arent exactly poor around here, we pretty well off, but man common 60 dollars for a month worth of whatever mambo gumbo jumbo woodo magic pills 60 dollars a month! 410 dkk a month for one person Tell the people from gruns to take it easy man.
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atp1216
Just a quick reflection on semantics from a non-english native biologist, sprouted from minute 5: 57. I am unsure whether we can call a genetic condition/mutation that 30% of the population has an abnormality. Like, is 30% a rarity It's 1 out of 3 people essentially. Abnormality to me has two problems. Firstly, it might not classify in this case as the frequency is quite high. There are not only normal and abnormal things, it can be mor of a spectrum. Secondly, the word comes with an array of negative connotations in many contexts that perhaps do not apply. Dunno, made me think about how I would phrase it if I was writing the findings of that study and I would never use abnormality. Perhaps condition instead.
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Just a quick reflection on semantics from a non-english native biologist, sprouted from minute 5: 57. I am unsure whether we can call a genetic condition/mutation that 30% of the population has an abnormality. Like, is 30% a rarity It's 1 out of 3 people essentially. Abnormality to me has two problems. Firstly, it might not classify in this case as the frequency is quite high. There are not only normal and abnormal things, it can be mor of a spectrum. Secondly, the word comes with an array of negative connotations in many contexts that perhaps do not apply. Dunno, made me think about how I would phrase it if I was writing the findings of that study and I would never use abnormality. Perhaps condition instead.
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robertmclean5356
Interesting. Key scientific finding here is no difference. Then there are other worse sources. The rest is what we call whataboutism or muddying the water. Taking advice from someone who plugs vitamins for cash is pretty sad. It’s even worse that he knows that vitamins are purely a way to make the world’s most expensive urine. The bioavailability line is trash. Proven trash. Sad that he knows that as well. Doesn’t even tell viewers to speak to a doctor (unless I missed it. Then he adds some weird stuff to do with not getting it up - projecting much Ends with saying he does actually mainly use wood. The scientist charade is wearing pretty thin.
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Interesting. Key scientific finding here is no difference. Then there are other worse sources. The rest is what we call whataboutism or muddying the water. Taking advice from someone who plugs vitamins for cash is pretty sad. It’s even worse that he knows that vitamins are purely a way to make the world’s most expensive urine. The bioavailability line is trash. Proven trash. Sad that he knows that as well. Doesn’t even tell viewers to speak to a doctor (unless I missed it. Then he adds some weird stuff to do with not getting it up - projecting much Ends with saying he does actually mainly use wood. The scientist charade is wearing pretty thin.
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hifumibestgirl
I think most young men complaining about microplastics are concerned that a chemical that may produce harmful health effects is ubiquitous in the environment, and very few people who could do something about it are publicly acknowledging the problem. It likely has little to do with not being able to get laid, or being upset about being out of shape. In fact, I would guess that the vast majority of people who even know about microplastics are also taking initiative with their diets and physical fitness.
It’s bizarre that you would spend time in this video negatively speculating about random bros on the internet.
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I think most young men complaining about microplastics are concerned that a chemical that may produce harmful health effects is ubiquitous in the environment, and very few people who could do something about it are publicly acknowledging the problem. It likely has little to do with not being able to get laid, or being upset about being out of shape. In fact, I would guess that the vast majority of people who even know about microplastics are also taking initiative with their diets and physical fitness.
It’s bizarre that you would spend time in this video negatively speculating about random bros on the internet.
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javier9177
Why did you feel the need to talk about the manosphear when there are harmful substances found in plastic that have been brought to light like bpa
I don't like the manosphear either, but condensing a widescale problem that many people are concerned about as something only a crazed vocal minority would be interested in feels disingenuous.
Although the truth about microplastics as a whole have yet to be determined, but there are defined substances that people need to look out for, and be made aware of when buying plastic products, which again like bpa, can be found in waterbottles.
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Why did you feel the need to talk about the manosphear when there are harmful substances found in plastic that have been brought to light like bpa
I don't like the manosphear either, but condensing a widescale problem that many people are concerned about as something only a crazed vocal minority would be interested in feels disingenuous.
Although the truth about microplastics as a whole have yet to be determined, but there are defined substances that people need to look out for, and be made aware of when buying plastic products, which again like bpa, can be found in waterbottles.
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seba_stiano
Actually I've always been weirded out by that fiberboard) cutting board more than the plastic ones, I mean look at it it's almost fuzzy! Though it never would have occured to me to leave a comment pointing it out if it weren't for this video.
Also 1000% agree on the just use whatever you prefer argument, in my opinion the best cutting board for you is the one you're most likely to clean thoroughly and it doesn't matter if it's a plastic one you throw in the dishwasher or a wooden one you clean by hand because (like me) you like how good the wood looks when it's wet.
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Actually I've always been weirded out by that fiberboard) cutting board more than the plastic ones, I mean look at it it's almost fuzzy! Though it never would have occured to me to leave a comment pointing it out if it weren't for this video.
Also 1000% agree on the just use whatever you prefer argument, in my opinion the best cutting board for you is the one you're most likely to clean thoroughly and it doesn't matter if it's a plastic one you throw in the dishwasher or a wooden one you clean by hand because (like me) you like how good the wood looks when it's wet.
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jimbovitikan4848
so the going around the long way studies that have taken place instead of population monitoring (deemed impossible due to no control group) to test the effects of micro plastics and similar chemicals on humans have returned results of what you would expect
look up Nanoplastics and 'forever chemicals' shown to disrupt molecular for phys org
not against plastic cutting boards but we should be worried about industries spewing out chemicals we dont know the effects of in the first place
concerns about micro plastics dont just come from the manosphere
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so the going around the long way studies that have taken place instead of population monitoring (deemed impossible due to no control group) to test the effects of micro plastics and similar chemicals on humans have returned results of what you would expect
look up Nanoplastics and 'forever chemicals' shown to disrupt molecular for phys org
not against plastic cutting boards but we should be worried about industries spewing out chemicals we dont know the effects of in the first place
concerns about micro plastics dont just come from the manosphere
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ArchangelTyrael
Talks about research, then recommends multi vitamins Those are absolutely unnecessary unless you have some deficiency or dietary constraints. with a normal diet you don’t need multi vitamins. Some multi vitamins are even dangerous due to the high dosage. All credibility from this video went out of the window.
But as long as you bet paid to promote that stuff apparently it doesn’t matter. Not even to mention the ridiculous individual packaging, a total waste of packaging and resources.
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Talks about research, then recommends multi vitamins Those are absolutely unnecessary unless you have some deficiency or dietary constraints. with a normal diet you don’t need multi vitamins. Some multi vitamins are even dangerous due to the high dosage. All credibility from this video went out of the window.
But as long as you bet paid to promote that stuff apparently it doesn’t matter. Not even to mention the ridiculous individual packaging, a total waste of packaging and resources.
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MagicTurtle643
I appreciate this video. I do have a plastic cutting board, but I'm a very life-hack-speed-running-tasks person and I actually tend to just hover my vegetables over whatever I'm cooking and saw them with a serrated blade directly into the pan or my salad. Not recommended for large quantities, I assume, or safety, but I've literally never cut myself even once. I apply the walk don't run model for that part of it lol. I hate dirtying a cutting board is my point haha.
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I appreciate this video. I do have a plastic cutting board, but I'm a very life-hack-speed-running-tasks person and I actually tend to just hover my vegetables over whatever I'm cooking and saw them with a serrated blade directly into the pan or my salad. Not recommended for large quantities, I assume, or safety, but I've literally never cut myself even once. I apply the walk don't run model for that part of it lol. I hate dirtying a cutting board is my point haha.
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askmiller
Even if it's bad for you, it's pretty much unavoidable and it doesn't seem to have stopped people from living long, healthy lives. Ultimately the deciding factor should just be to do what makes you happy. If buying things marketed as good for the planet makes you feel better about yourself, do it. Just maybe don't berate people who don't care about the marginal and borderline nonexistent improvement you think your choices would have made if imposed on their lives.
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Even if it's bad for you, it's pretty much unavoidable and it doesn't seem to have stopped people from living long, healthy lives. Ultimately the deciding factor should just be to do what makes you happy. If buying things marketed as good for the planet makes you feel better about yourself, do it. Just maybe don't berate people who don't care about the marginal and borderline nonexistent improvement you think your choices would have made if imposed on their lives.
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danycashking
One advantage of (solid) wood cutting boards, which is why I prefer them, is that when the surface gets jagged and rough after lots of use you can sand it down, sterilise it and prep it with some cutting board oil and it's as good as new, whereas the plastic ones just keep getting rougher and especially when it's white plastic you can see that the deeper grooves get dirtier and you can't get them clean again no matter how much you try.
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One advantage of (solid) wood cutting boards, which is why I prefer them, is that when the surface gets jagged and rough after lots of use you can sand it down, sterilise it and prep it with some cutting board oil and it's as good as new, whereas the plastic ones just keep getting rougher and especially when it's white plastic you can see that the deeper grooves get dirtier and you can't get them clean again no matter how much you try.
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Endymion0021
I mostly cut on a tempered glass desk topper or a big flat ceramic plate I inherited from my Grandpa, I do not know the compositions of them or why they used such material as a cutting surface, but I also grew quite fond of them, they tend to dull the knifes I use quicker, which is probably the biggest downside.
The implication of glass splinters never crossed my mind, since they are close to scratchless for close to a century now.
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I mostly cut on a tempered glass desk topper or a big flat ceramic plate I inherited from my Grandpa, I do not know the compositions of them or why they used such material as a cutting surface, but I also grew quite fond of them, they tend to dull the knifes I use quicker, which is probably the biggest downside.
The implication of glass splinters never crossed my mind, since they are close to scratchless for close to a century now.
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DavidLayM
generally agree with the sentiment and most of the arguments here, but I find problematic that argument of you particular choice won't make a difference because while yes, we are over sold on the power of choice, there's the principle of voting with your money and standing up to your concerns and customs. People just need to be aware that that's the idea and they are not fixing the world for everyone, just choosing for themselves.
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generally agree with the sentiment and most of the arguments here, but I find problematic that argument of you particular choice won't make a difference because while yes, we are over sold on the power of choice, there's the principle of voting with your money and standing up to your concerns and customs. People just need to be aware that that's the idea and they are not fixing the world for everyone, just choosing for themselves.
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notthere83
My dad worked at a grocery store and the butcher had to sand down and refinish his cutting board every day.
For home use, it seems weird to me to use a scouring pad on it for cleaning in the first place. After all, you're supposed to oil it regularly, to give it a water-resistant coating. And then you're going to scrub off that coating, to let the highest possible amount of bacteria into the now roughened up surface
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My dad worked at a grocery store and the butcher had to sand down and refinish his cutting board every day.
For home use, it seems weird to me to use a scouring pad on it for cleaning in the first place. After all, you're supposed to oil it regularly, to give it a water-resistant coating. And then you're going to scrub off that coating, to let the highest possible amount of bacteria into the now roughened up surface
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j-wenning
As a former prep cook, I have to assume that it's pretty hard to get data on the benefit of color coded cutting boards, as they're easily and regularly disregarded. You might leave them in the dish pit for longer than you can wait, managers replace the wrong color somehow (or possibly don't replace them at all, or maybe you just don't get paid enough to care. One place I worked didn't even have color coded boards.
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As a former prep cook, I have to assume that it's pretty hard to get data on the benefit of color coded cutting boards, as they're easily and regularly disregarded. You might leave them in the dish pit for longer than you can wait, managers replace the wrong color somehow (or possibly don't replace them at all, or maybe you just don't get paid enough to care. One place I worked didn't even have color coded boards.
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Gareth_Mayers
I doubt red pill men are doing a lot of cooking at home, or even notice if there cutting board is plastic. So I think your assumptions are not logical in suspecting them. It would seem more likely to be environmentally conscious women of a leftist bent. But I detect that your a worshiper of those kind of women so they walk on water as far as your concerned. Keep it up tho very informative vid.
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I doubt red pill men are doing a lot of cooking at home, or even notice if there cutting board is plastic. So I think your assumptions are not logical in suspecting them. It would seem more likely to be environmentally conscious women of a leftist bent. But I detect that your a worshiper of those kind of women so they walk on water as far as your concerned. Keep it up tho very informative vid.
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