What Holds Back Beginner Artists - Asking Pros - Proko
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. Anyway, I decided to start fixing my shortcomings. Just like him I returned to the basics. I've been studying fundamentals very much and have amassed several resources (including purchasing Proko's premium content. And at first it sucked, but I got into the mindset of accepting that -hey, I'm learning these things because I really don't know these things like I thought I did. - And that feeling of 'knowing that you don't know' is actually pretty freeing because it got me in the mindset to start soaking up everything I can, without ego.
I know this video is old now and maybe I should have made this comment around the time I saw it the first time but I just wanted to leave this comment anyway as a thank you to Peter Han for that statement making me truly go back to the grindstone learning fundamentals, as well as all the other folks that gave some solid information. Just, thanks.
Date: 2022-03-14
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Daniel
What held you back the most in becoming a professional artist?
0: 31 Ross Draws -I wish I could just do me. Just draw what you want to draw. -
1: 26 Patrick Ballesteros -Fearing the inability to do what I wanted to do in my head; so making mistakes. -
2: 43 Marshall Vandruff -A lack of training. -
3: 09 -Self-doubt. Comparing myself to others. -
3: 58 Peter Han -Having the confidence of simplicity. - Focusing on shape, form and proportion rather than details and rendering.
6: 06 Victor Olazaba -No internet. -
7: 02 Ron Lemen -Not knowing where to go to learn. -
7: 49 Stephen Silver -The concept of drawing through your shapes- and -construction and form. -
8: 19 Chrissie Zullo Being shy. You need to put yourself out there in order to network.
8: 43 Sanford Greene -That it would take a lot of hard work just to make it in this industry. -
10: 36 Howard Shum -No formal training. -
11: 49 Marcelo Matere -I wish I had more mentors. -
12: 41 Eliza Ivanova -Trying to hide my art too much. -
14: 51 Hai-Na-Nu Saulque -Yourself. - Second guessing yourself, fear of putting yourself out there, self-doubt, etc.
16: 33 Bobby Chiu -I didn't think about trying to be a professional until I already was. -
16: 54 Mike Hayes -Not pursuing what I actually wanted to do instead of what I thought was cool. -
18: 08 Caleb Cleveland -Self assessment of your own talent. -
19: 55 James Douglas -I focused way too intensely on details rather than the overall composition or the overall picture. -
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What held you back the most in becoming a professional artist?
0: 31 Ross Draws -I wish I could just do me. Just draw what you want to draw. -
1: 26 Patrick Ballesteros -Fearing the inability to do what I wanted to do in my head; so making mistakes. -
2: 43 Marshall Vandruff -A lack of training. -
3: 09 -Self-doubt. Comparing myself to others. -
3: 58 Peter Han -Having the confidence of simplicity. - Focusing on shape, form and proportion rather than details and rendering.
6: 06 Victor Olazaba -No internet. -
7: 02 Ron Lemen -Not knowing where to go to learn. -
7: 49 Stephen Silver -The concept of drawing through your shapes- and -construction and form. -
8: 19 Chrissie Zullo Being shy. You need to put yourself out there in order to network.
8: 43 Sanford Greene -That it would take a lot of hard work just to make it in this industry. -
10: 36 Howard Shum -No formal training. -
11: 49 Marcelo Matere -I wish I had more mentors. -
12: 41 Eliza Ivanova -Trying to hide my art too much. -
14: 51 Hai-Na-Nu Saulque -Yourself. - Second guessing yourself, fear of putting yourself out there, self-doubt, etc.
16: 33 Bobby Chiu -I didn't think about trying to be a professional until I already was. -
16: 54 Mike Hayes -Not pursuing what I actually wanted to do instead of what I thought was cool. -
18: 08 Caleb Cleveland -Self assessment of your own talent. -
19: 55 James Douglas -I focused way too intensely on details rather than the overall composition or the overall picture. -
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Phaedra
I have only (at 40 some years old) started to really pursue learning how to draw. I've always wanted to learn, and when in high school I had a friend who seemed to draw so well, so naturally. I tried to mimic her - and sort of did okay - except that it felt like it was taking me forever to accomplish what she was able to do in about 5 minutes. It took so much focus and energy.
Now, what has spurred me to jump back into learning, is I've been reading WebToons. A passion of mine has always been to try and tell stories. Books take too long, and I just don't have the time (demands of life and adulting, to give writing a book the time and focus that it requires. I thought, if I can just learn to draw (which I have an interest in, then maybe I can still tell stories, but in shorter stints.
Some of the biggest things holding me back right now, is my own impatience and being highly critical of my own work. I have a goal I want to attain, but it feels so far off. I've only been doing this for. coming up on a month, and while I've been trying to draw every day, it's very difficult not to get discouraged. I wish I could find a mentor. someone close by who could work with me. watch what I do, give me tips on what I'm doing wrong and how I can improve.
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I have only (at 40 some years old) started to really pursue learning how to draw. I've always wanted to learn, and when in high school I had a friend who seemed to draw so well, so naturally. I tried to mimic her - and sort of did okay - except that it felt like it was taking me forever to accomplish what she was able to do in about 5 minutes. It took so much focus and energy.
Now, what has spurred me to jump back into learning, is I've been reading WebToons. A passion of mine has always been to try and tell stories. Books take too long, and I just don't have the time (demands of life and adulting, to give writing a book the time and focus that it requires. I thought, if I can just learn to draw (which I have an interest in, then maybe I can still tell stories, but in shorter stints.
Some of the biggest things holding me back right now, is my own impatience and being highly critical of my own work. I have a goal I want to attain, but it feels so far off. I've only been doing this for. coming up on a month, and while I've been trying to draw every day, it's very difficult not to get discouraged. I wish I could find a mentor. someone close by who could work with me. watch what I do, give me tips on what I'm doing wrong and how I can improve.
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Drawingfandom
So basically what holds these artists back is
- not drawing what they want/drawing what they think is popular or good for the art industry
- fear their not good enough artiste
- not having good base skills such as proportions and trying to mask it with detail
- not having the internet to aid them in the whole self taught artist process or to get their work out there early
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- not being formally taught/not getting the right advice or help needed to progress/ or not knowing where to find art classes and schools.
Not what holds me back the most
Inability to change my style and art habits. I do obviously do studies now. But when I started doing art all I wanted to do was draw my anime and cartoons to the point where once I found a style I didn-t change it for years afraid if I did my art would no longer look like my art but once I finally did I saw major improvement because my style held me back as It was unproportial and weak in skill and I tried to pass off my faults as part of my style as something I shouldn-t change.
ARTISTS DO LIFE STUDIES AND DON-T BE AFRAID TO CHANGE YOUR STYLE. WHAT MAKES UR ART URS IS WHAT U TRIED TO CONVEY WITH IT NOT HOW U DREW IT.
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So basically what holds these artists back is
- not drawing what they want/drawing what they think is popular or good for the art industry
- fear their not good enough artiste
- not having good base skills such as proportions and trying to mask it with detail
- not having the internet to aid them in the whole self taught artist process or to get their work out there early
And
- not being formally taught/not getting the right advice or help needed to progress/ or not knowing where to find art classes and schools.
Not what holds me back the most
Inability to change my style and art habits. I do obviously do studies now. But when I started doing art all I wanted to do was draw my anime and cartoons to the point where once I found a style I didn-t change it for years afraid if I did my art would no longer look like my art but once I finally did I saw major improvement because my style held me back as It was unproportial and weak in skill and I tried to pass off my faults as part of my style as something I shouldn-t change.
ARTISTS DO LIFE STUDIES AND DON-T BE AFRAID TO CHANGE YOUR STYLE. WHAT MAKES UR ART URS IS WHAT U TRIED TO CONVEY WITH IT NOT HOW U DREW IT.
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carso1500
Now i have a curious problem, i don't want to say that i have -perfected- the basics like shape, form, perspective, etc because obviously theres always something new to learn, but i have practiced a lot and i have managed to increase my proficiency at those skills to the point that i can draw a good looking human figure in minutes if not less (depending i'm how detailed i want it to look) so i don't have any problems with the basics, i literaly spended months and several notebooks just drawing basic shapes like circles and cubes or things like that in basically every angle to the point that i can probably draw them with my eyes closed, now the problem is that i'm really struggling with adding the details, all those things that they tell people that arent important and you should learn the basics first, well i already learned the basics now how do i continue from here
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Now i have a curious problem, i don't want to say that i have -perfected- the basics like shape, form, perspective, etc because obviously theres always something new to learn, but i have practiced a lot and i have managed to increase my proficiency at those skills to the point that i can draw a good looking human figure in minutes if not less (depending i'm how detailed i want it to look) so i don't have any problems with the basics, i literaly spended months and several notebooks just drawing basic shapes like circles and cubes or things like that in basically every angle to the point that i can probably draw them with my eyes closed, now the problem is that i'm really struggling with adding the details, all those things that they tell people that arent important and you should learn the basics first, well i already learned the basics now how do i continue from here
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Bryan
What holds me back and has held me back aside from life events, which brought on depression and anxiety. This has and still is holding me back even now in the 30's and just now finally looking at taking it seriously. Yeah I have the inborn talent, but that's like maybe 2% of what's needed. The rest is imagination and memory of things(helps creating things) but the majority is the dedication to slog through the hundreds and thousands of hours of work and learning to get to where you need to be to enter the field and make a living. Anxiety is crippling as is self doubt when it hits certain levels. It's probably what keeps a lot of people from becoming artists is that fear and self doubt, especially without mentors or encouragement from others.
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What holds me back and has held me back aside from life events, which brought on depression and anxiety. This has and still is holding me back even now in the 30's and just now finally looking at taking it seriously. Yeah I have the inborn talent, but that's like maybe 2% of what's needed. The rest is imagination and memory of things(helps creating things) but the majority is the dedication to slog through the hundreds and thousands of hours of work and learning to get to where you need to be to enter the field and make a living. Anxiety is crippling as is self doubt when it hits certain levels. It's probably what keeps a lot of people from becoming artists is that fear and self doubt, especially without mentors or encouragement from others.
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Just
What holds me back is my fear of what's yet to come, specifically when it comes to my art. I plan to choose a course focusing on multimedia arts, creating stuff is where I do best, and then comes the insecurity that what if I won't be as successful as my friends who chose to pursue engineering, medicine, business, etc. or what if I won't be as recognized or become as good in what I do? It's thoughts like these that hold me back to the point that I even stopped trying at getting better with my art and procrastinate. It's what's holding me back now, and to be honest, I don't really know what to do.
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What holds me back is my fear of what's yet to come, specifically when it comes to my art. I plan to choose a course focusing on multimedia arts, creating stuff is where I do best, and then comes the insecurity that what if I won't be as successful as my friends who chose to pursue engineering, medicine, business, etc. or what if I won't be as recognized or become as good in what I do? It's thoughts like these that hold me back to the point that I even stopped trying at getting better with my art and procrastinate. It's what's holding me back now, and to be honest, I don't really know what to do.
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What held me back was having so much fears like I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to create such good work but now I realized that I need to work hard, I need more practice and currently, I've been studying fundamentals, now, I can say that I made tons of mistakes and yet I am not afraid to make them anymore. There will always be an odd and an even when you create art. I'm so thankful I saw this video, I'll pursue art and someday, hopefully, I could become an artist like you guys.
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What held me back was having so much fears like I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to create such good work but now I realized that I need to work hard, I need more practice and currently, I've been studying fundamentals, now, I can say that I made tons of mistakes and yet I am not afraid to make them anymore. There will always be an odd and an even when you create art. I'm so thankful I saw this video, I'll pursue art and someday, hopefully, I could become an artist like you guys.
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VocaFan4ever
I think a lot of new artists are afraid of failure. I usually spend a lot of time on one piece so I end up feeling that it should be worth it, when it's not, I feel bad about it. But we shouldn't be like that, we get better slowly.
Also, it helps to look at your favourite artists old works and realize that they too sucked for a couple of years before they found their breakthrough
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I think a lot of new artists are afraid of failure. I usually spend a lot of time on one piece so I end up feeling that it should be worth it, when it's not, I feel bad about it. But we shouldn't be like that, we get better slowly.
Also, it helps to look at your favourite artists old works and realize that they too sucked for a couple of years before they found their breakthrough
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Yavuz
Mike Hayes brings up a really interesting idea here, that you can enjoy things and not be passionate about pursuing them. It's like all the things you enjoy can be a red herring in deciding what you want to pursue. Though thinking about ways to mitigate it, I can't imagine a more efficient way than testing how much you enjoy it.
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Mike Hayes brings up a really interesting idea here, that you can enjoy things and not be passionate about pursuing them. It's like all the things you enjoy can be a red herring in deciding what you want to pursue. Though thinking about ways to mitigate it, I can't imagine a more efficient way than testing how much you enjoy it.
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