
Some Thoughts About Planting Under Black Walnut Trees
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Date: 2022-07-16
Comments and reviews: 9
petko
Nice material. Honestly, I was hoping Perhaps i have a different kind of walnut tree, but on my trees i do not see any other colour on the trees and their fruits, than green. Anyway, a few years back i've had only 2 walnut trees, but they started inventing the entire yard. Now I have around 30 or 40 of them, some of them very small. I never knew how dangerous they could be. .I can't wait until next week to start cutting them all. Can not take chances if i deside to have grazing animals on my yard to get them poisoned. All the info on You Tube explains the possible results from Planting and growing plans. Wish there was somebody to say something about the grass and the other vegetation, already under the trees. Is it poisonous and is it dangerous for the farm animals to graze it. It would be very interesting if somebody give any info about the period of time the vegetation will be dangerous for the farm animals. The only facts I have so far is that my fruit trees are dying in huge numbers. No point for me to take a chance and continue playing roulette with the life of my fruit trees, plans and animals. As far as i can see, having a walnut trees in fruit tree garden and among a farm animals is simply irresponsible. I will love, if somebody can correct me, so i do not have to cut my walnut trees at all, but i am afraid that they just have to go. Thank you
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Nice material. Honestly, I was hoping Perhaps i have a different kind of walnut tree, but on my trees i do not see any other colour on the trees and their fruits, than green. Anyway, a few years back i've had only 2 walnut trees, but they started inventing the entire yard. Now I have around 30 or 40 of them, some of them very small. I never knew how dangerous they could be. .I can't wait until next week to start cutting them all. Can not take chances if i deside to have grazing animals on my yard to get them poisoned. All the info on You Tube explains the possible results from Planting and growing plans. Wish there was somebody to say something about the grass and the other vegetation, already under the trees. Is it poisonous and is it dangerous for the farm animals to graze it. It would be very interesting if somebody give any info about the period of time the vegetation will be dangerous for the farm animals. The only facts I have so far is that my fruit trees are dying in huge numbers. No point for me to take a chance and continue playing roulette with the life of my fruit trees, plans and animals. As far as i can see, having a walnut trees in fruit tree garden and among a farm animals is simply irresponsible. I will love, if somebody can correct me, so i do not have to cut my walnut trees at all, but i am afraid that they just have to go. Thank you
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homeschoolmomstamm
Last year I lost just about my whole garden spread out throughout my yard. It started at the bottom and working its way up the plant with each set of leaves turning black and dying. Some plants held out longer than others but in the end a pretty significant amount of annuals and perennials died. I sent pictures and info to a site that has different extension services answering questions. One person asked if I had walnut trees around or if my mulch was made with walnut trees and was sure this looked like it would be caused by them. Since I do t have any walnut trees on my property or close by I did t give it another thought, everyone else was stumped because it was spread throughout the yard in different soil areas. The only thing we could figure is it was some sort of fungus I had transferred with my clippers or gloves (lesson learned to carry a spray bottle of bleach water to disinfect my blades in between plants. This fall I was digging everything up and found a ton of black walnut shells buried throughout all of my garden beds throughout the yard, where I had the hardest hit areas was where there were more shells. I do t know if it actually was the cause of my loss but it sure is a coincidence that the extension lady was sure it was walnuts and I found shells. Darn chipmunks.
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Last year I lost just about my whole garden spread out throughout my yard. It started at the bottom and working its way up the plant with each set of leaves turning black and dying. Some plants held out longer than others but in the end a pretty significant amount of annuals and perennials died. I sent pictures and info to a site that has different extension services answering questions. One person asked if I had walnut trees around or if my mulch was made with walnut trees and was sure this looked like it would be caused by them. Since I do t have any walnut trees on my property or close by I did t give it another thought, everyone else was stumped because it was spread throughout the yard in different soil areas. The only thing we could figure is it was some sort of fungus I had transferred with my clippers or gloves (lesson learned to carry a spray bottle of bleach water to disinfect my blades in between plants. This fall I was digging everything up and found a ton of black walnut shells buried throughout all of my garden beds throughout the yard, where I had the hardest hit areas was where there were more shells. I do t know if it actually was the cause of my loss but it sure is a coincidence that the extension lady was sure it was walnuts and I found shells. Darn chipmunks.
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Lynne
I have seven acres surrounded by black walnuts. They were there when my parents bought the home, 55 years ago. Nothing has grown under these trees except beautiful fluffy grass and Ragweed. Tomatoes must be at least 20 feet from the trees umbrella. My property is the old Grand River riverbed in Michigan. Everything grows very well, as long as it is not near or under the canopy of trees. You will not want to park a vehicle under the trees once they leaf out.
Anything we have planted gets coated with an oil. Then they die. The grass dies under each walnut that drops in its thick skin. Once the skin cracks and rots, larger patches of grass dies. The shade and breeze they give is beautiful.
The best thing to do with black walnuts is to fill a thermos jug with walnuts, skin and all. Pour distilled water over them to fill container. Cap and let sit for at least 6 months. The best black walnut stain around. When used just add more fallen walnuts leaving the old ones in there and add more distilled water.
With black walnuts you will not have fleas or bugs. Only tent worms.
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I have seven acres surrounded by black walnuts. They were there when my parents bought the home, 55 years ago. Nothing has grown under these trees except beautiful fluffy grass and Ragweed. Tomatoes must be at least 20 feet from the trees umbrella. My property is the old Grand River riverbed in Michigan. Everything grows very well, as long as it is not near or under the canopy of trees. You will not want to park a vehicle under the trees once they leaf out.
Anything we have planted gets coated with an oil. Then they die. The grass dies under each walnut that drops in its thick skin. Once the skin cracks and rots, larger patches of grass dies. The shade and breeze they give is beautiful.
The best thing to do with black walnuts is to fill a thermos jug with walnuts, skin and all. Pour distilled water over them to fill container. Cap and let sit for at least 6 months. The best black walnut stain around. When used just add more fallen walnuts leaving the old ones in there and add more distilled water.
With black walnuts you will not have fleas or bugs. Only tent worms.
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handmade
I live in Ontario Canada and my neighbor that I back into has a black walnut tree that most definitely affected my vegetable garden. I didn't realize what the issue was a few years back when my tomatoes started dying but have since learned alot about black walnut trees. I limited my veg patch to onions, garlic and beans and started growing my tomatoes and peppers in pots. Fast forward I didn't like the look of just growing onions and garlic so last year I ripped everything out and did some research on line and planted a bee/butterfly friendly garden. And yes there are alot of beautiful plants that can coexist near a black walnut. Now I am very happy with the look of my garden. My other neighbor who is right next to the walnut tree has been amending his soil every year to very little success I've tried to explain to him that tomatoes won't grow there and why but he's stubborn and thinks he can so there you have it. As this walnut tree affects me directly I'm happy to share my experience and dos and don'ts.
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I live in Ontario Canada and my neighbor that I back into has a black walnut tree that most definitely affected my vegetable garden. I didn't realize what the issue was a few years back when my tomatoes started dying but have since learned alot about black walnut trees. I limited my veg patch to onions, garlic and beans and started growing my tomatoes and peppers in pots. Fast forward I didn't like the look of just growing onions and garlic so last year I ripped everything out and did some research on line and planted a bee/butterfly friendly garden. And yes there are alot of beautiful plants that can coexist near a black walnut. Now I am very happy with the look of my garden. My other neighbor who is right next to the walnut tree has been amending his soil every year to very little success I've tried to explain to him that tomatoes won't grow there and why but he's stubborn and thinks he can so there you have it. As this walnut tree affects me directly I'm happy to share my experience and dos and don'ts.
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Carole
I have a beautiful old black walnut in the middle of my 1 acre. Zone 6. Growing near a silver maple they share canopy space. Under the space I have vinca, hosta, columbine (reseeds its self), balsam (reseeds it self) and impatients, iris and peonies. However in the back of the yard previous owners removed walnut shells to a location where I placed a large sun perennial garden. I did not remove them, as I did not know of the problems this would cause. Nothing will grow in this small area. I finally gave up when the mint continued to do poorly and I just leave the area bare for statuary. I did put out a few seeds of castor bean vine which look beautiful, but we will see if they make the summer. I love that tree and it is the star of my yard/garden. I believe it lets other plants grow under it as a return of the love it receives! I am going to try a hydrangea just outside its drip line and hope it does as well as the peonies!
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I have a beautiful old black walnut in the middle of my 1 acre. Zone 6. Growing near a silver maple they share canopy space. Under the space I have vinca, hosta, columbine (reseeds its self), balsam (reseeds it self) and impatients, iris and peonies. However in the back of the yard previous owners removed walnut shells to a location where I placed a large sun perennial garden. I did not remove them, as I did not know of the problems this would cause. Nothing will grow in this small area. I finally gave up when the mint continued to do poorly and I just leave the area bare for statuary. I did put out a few seeds of castor bean vine which look beautiful, but we will see if they make the summer. I love that tree and it is the star of my yard/garden. I believe it lets other plants grow under it as a return of the love it receives! I am going to try a hydrangea just outside its drip line and hope it does as well as the peonies!
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Judy
I put raised beds in the only sunny area in my small back yard. Planted tomatoes, peppers, blueberries, raspberries, asparagus. Tried to get something to grow for several years but they always died. Put in 12 rosebushes. Died. Called a guy to take down the three dead pines along the back and he pointed out the black walnut on my neighbors property. I 'd been gardening for years thought I had lost my green thumb! Unfortunately the black walnut keeps getting larger and as it grows the canopy is bigger, the roots more extensive and more of my yard is effected. Now that I am aware I plant carefully. I had a huge beautiful oak leaf hydrangea but as the walnut grows it has declined as the roots must be encroaching on it. There are plenty of plants that are not effected-- iris, gladiolus, zinnias, forsythia, squash, pumpkin, echinacea, hosta, , Virginia creeper, lily of the valley, jack in the pulpit, ferns, rudbeckia,
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I put raised beds in the only sunny area in my small back yard. Planted tomatoes, peppers, blueberries, raspberries, asparagus. Tried to get something to grow for several years but they always died. Put in 12 rosebushes. Died. Called a guy to take down the three dead pines along the back and he pointed out the black walnut on my neighbors property. I 'd been gardening for years thought I had lost my green thumb! Unfortunately the black walnut keeps getting larger and as it grows the canopy is bigger, the roots more extensive and more of my yard is effected. Now that I am aware I plant carefully. I had a huge beautiful oak leaf hydrangea but as the walnut grows it has declined as the roots must be encroaching on it. There are plenty of plants that are not effected-- iris, gladiolus, zinnias, forsythia, squash, pumpkin, echinacea, hosta, , Virginia creeper, lily of the valley, jack in the pulpit, ferns, rudbeckia,
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Maggie
Excellent video Laura! Thank you for breaking this down like a true scientist! As a former scientist and present software developer as well as avid gardener, I absolutely love your right brain creativity and left brain analysis working together. I do have a black walnut on my neighbors property with the canopy on mine. Beneath it I have several encore azaleas that have never performed as expected. In another part of the same side of the yard I have another group of encores, different variety, different amounts of water ( down hill off roof of house, and all morning sun. I have always felt it was these factors that made them perform better than the ones under the black walnut. Nevertheless, I have offered to help pay my neighbor to take out this tree! Those balls of walnuts flooding my front yard, and all the squirrels! From North Carolina zone 8!
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Excellent video Laura! Thank you for breaking this down like a true scientist! As a former scientist and present software developer as well as avid gardener, I absolutely love your right brain creativity and left brain analysis working together. I do have a black walnut on my neighbors property with the canopy on mine. Beneath it I have several encore azaleas that have never performed as expected. In another part of the same side of the yard I have another group of encores, different variety, different amounts of water ( down hill off roof of house, and all morning sun. I have always felt it was these factors that made them perform better than the ones under the black walnut. Nevertheless, I have offered to help pay my neighbor to take out this tree! Those balls of walnuts flooding my front yard, and all the squirrels! From North Carolina zone 8!
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Alison
Interesting research and it took us years to figure out why our trees were dying. We have 2. 5 acres of what used to be a Christmas tree farm and the fir trees have been extremely hard hit as the black walnuts are coming up throughout the woods. I took pains to properly prepare soil for asparagus plants and the conditions seemed ideal. The next spring all the plants were dead. When we finally understood the impact of black walnut we converted our philosophy of dreading the black walnut to finding other trees and plants that do well together. There are a few great blogs about the beautiful coexistence under the black walnut canopy. And the squirrels are voracious lovers and spreaders of black walnuts and hulls. so we are not overly hyped or fearful. rather accepting of the natural environment.
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Interesting research and it took us years to figure out why our trees were dying. We have 2. 5 acres of what used to be a Christmas tree farm and the fir trees have been extremely hard hit as the black walnuts are coming up throughout the woods. I took pains to properly prepare soil for asparagus plants and the conditions seemed ideal. The next spring all the plants were dead. When we finally understood the impact of black walnut we converted our philosophy of dreading the black walnut to finding other trees and plants that do well together. There are a few great blogs about the beautiful coexistence under the black walnut canopy. And the squirrels are voracious lovers and spreaders of black walnuts and hulls. so we are not overly hyped or fearful. rather accepting of the natural environment.
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Victoria
We have a black walnut tree in our front yard. We also have a lilac bush right near by our walnut tree in our flower bed closer to the house. Someone else planted it. The first year it bloomed beautifully. The second it didn't bloom at all. This last year it bloomed again. I wonder if lilac's just bloom every other year anyway. I also have planted tomatoes but in my backyard garden. We do have peonies in the very backyard and this last year they got powdery mildew but none of my vegetable garden got it. Weird. Also, I have a hosta I planted and it is true it does very well in the shade. It's also by the house near our walnut tree. But the lilacs are closer to it. Hopefully this helps someone.
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We have a black walnut tree in our front yard. We also have a lilac bush right near by our walnut tree in our flower bed closer to the house. Someone else planted it. The first year it bloomed beautifully. The second it didn't bloom at all. This last year it bloomed again. I wonder if lilac's just bloom every other year anyway. I also have planted tomatoes but in my backyard garden. We do have peonies in the very backyard and this last year they got powdery mildew but none of my vegetable garden got it. Weird. Also, I have a hosta I planted and it is true it does very well in the shade. It's also by the house near our walnut tree. But the lilacs are closer to it. Hopefully this helps someone.
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