2021 AMD Threadripper WRX80 Motherboards & 1800 Z590 Board for Intel i9-11900K
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Hypervisor OS boots itself into RAM at launch and uses SD card only to store configuration changes.
Advanced server motherboards often use some more robust solutions. Like double SD card slot with internal RAID-1 mechanism.
Date: 2021-01-19
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Uzmeyer
Booting from SD/USB is quite common for Servers and most come with at least one internal SD Slot or USB Port. Something like a bare-metal hypervisor, os for a storage system or in general any lightweight linux or bsd is going to be trivial in size to load into ram compared to total system memory. Drive slots otoh are a much more limited resource especially in 1U and using 1 or 2 for an OS that's a couple GB at best is a waste. The SD/USB is really only read at boot and written for config changes, logging is done to a dedicated server (If you are feeling adventureous you might even write logs from RAM to SD on clean shutdown). Replacing a failed SD/USB is also easy, as long as you have a current image (wich you of course have because copying a Flash drive is trivial and you are not an idiot), you might keep a couple preflashed spares in a box and can get one from a store around the corner in an emerency (Though if you get to that point you should probaply rethink your strategy).
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Booting from SD/USB is quite common for Servers and most come with at least one internal SD Slot or USB Port. Something like a bare-metal hypervisor, os for a storage system or in general any lightweight linux or bsd is going to be trivial in size to load into ram compared to total system memory. Drive slots otoh are a much more limited resource especially in 1U and using 1 or 2 for an OS that's a couple GB at best is a waste. The SD/USB is really only read at boot and written for config changes, logging is done to a dedicated server (If you are feeling adventureous you might even write logs from RAM to SD on clean shutdown). Replacing a failed SD/USB is also easy, as long as you have a current image (wich you of course have because copying a Flash drive is trivial and you are not an idiot), you might keep a couple preflashed spares in a box and can get one from a store around the corner in an emerency (Though if you get to that point you should probaply rethink your strategy).
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GzizLovescocks
The current situation with part availability is really killing my intrest in pc's and hardware, why bother looking at benchmarks or talking about parts when you cant get them anyway. By the time these cards and cpus are available they will be about halfway through their life cycle at MORE than what they were when they were new. I was waiting for the 5600 to come out so i could finally upgrade my 1600 to a 3600 for a decent price but thanks to the stock problems they havent really dropped in price. So by the looks of it ill be gaming on my 1070 and 1600 until it breaks and then give up on games and pc's altogether.
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The current situation with part availability is really killing my intrest in pc's and hardware, why bother looking at benchmarks or talking about parts when you cant get them anyway. By the time these cards and cpus are available they will be about halfway through their life cycle at MORE than what they were when they were new. I was waiting for the 5600 to come out so i could finally upgrade my 1600 to a 3600 for a decent price but thanks to the stock problems they havent really dropped in price. So by the looks of it ill be gaming on my 1070 and 1600 until it breaks and then give up on games and pc's altogether.
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Jason
Computer building is becoming the same as the top end luxury car market. Short story. Went to the Chicago Auto Show around 20 something years ago, the same year they were demo'ing the initial dodge viper prototype. I saw an amazing car there from Maybach. I asked the guy working the stand what the price on one of them was. He looked down and scoffed at me and said if you have to ask, then you cant afford it. I was pissed! so i walked over and when he had his back turned i dragged a key down the entire side of the car. Lmmmfao.
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Computer building is becoming the same as the top end luxury car market. Short story. Went to the Chicago Auto Show around 20 something years ago, the same year they were demo'ing the initial dodge viper prototype. I saw an amazing car there from Maybach. I asked the guy working the stand what the price on one of them was. He looked down and scoffed at me and said if you have to ask, then you cant afford it. I was pissed! so i walked over and when he had his back turned i dragged a key down the entire side of the car. Lmmmfao.
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Nicolai
The problem with Supermicro or SuperO's consumer/gamer oriented boards is that they declare server-DNA in their marketing but these boards are not as thoroughly validated as their server boards. It is just impossible for them to do this as the consumer oriented chipsets don't last that long in the market. And I'm sure they don't want to spend more money than competitors on QA as then they may as well not even bother. They have to make a profit after all.
So don't fall for the marketing hype. Check reviews as usual.
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The problem with Supermicro or SuperO's consumer/gamer oriented boards is that they declare server-DNA in their marketing but these boards are not as thoroughly validated as their server boards. It is just impossible for them to do this as the consumer oriented chipsets don't last that long in the market. And I'm sure they don't want to spend more money than competitors on QA as then they may as well not even bother. They have to make a profit after all.
So don't fall for the marketing hype. Check reviews as usual.
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My
We are to get our hands on the top-of-line Enterprise PC Components for the average User, then, instead of Windows 10 Home, or 10 Pro (those are not going to cut the mustard), we are to get Windows 10 Enterprise, and we are to have it installed in the PCs of the everyday User. Any other Windows 10 Version other than Enterprise is not satisfied and does not fulfill the absolute requirement of having 10 Enterprise installed. Only Windows 10 Enterprise fulfills that requirement.
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We are to get our hands on the top-of-line Enterprise PC Components for the average User, then, instead of Windows 10 Home, or 10 Pro (those are not going to cut the mustard), we are to get Windows 10 Enterprise, and we are to have it installed in the PCs of the everyday User. Any other Windows 10 Version other than Enterprise is not satisfied and does not fulfill the absolute requirement of having 10 Enterprise installed. Only Windows 10 Enterprise fulfills that requirement.
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itech
You're correct, microSD card slots on server motherboards are typically used to hold a lightweight OS boot drive (while all other drives in the system are for block VM and data storage), especially for the ESXi virtualisation platform. It might also be connected to the Board Management Controller instead to store some kind of configuration data, but that's unlikely because there's normally a dedicated smaller more reliable SPI flash chip for this purpose.
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You're correct, microSD card slots on server motherboards are typically used to hold a lightweight OS boot drive (while all other drives in the system are for block VM and data storage), especially for the ESXi virtualisation platform. It might also be connected to the Board Management Controller instead to store some kind of configuration data, but that's unlikely because there's normally a dedicated smaller more reliable SPI flash chip for this purpose.
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Bill
Steve, the SD card is used for storing files like ISOs which are then virtually mounted as optical drives for installation of OSes OR for accessing data from ISOs on the installed OSes, like drivers. Typically, you would pop in the SD card, access the IPMI, upload the ISO (which gets stored on the SD card), proceed to mount the ISO and then boot off the ISO. It's a very nifty way of getting around the need for USB flash drives and Rufus/dd/Etcher :)
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Steve, the SD card is used for storing files like ISOs which are then virtually mounted as optical drives for installation of OSes OR for accessing data from ISOs on the installed OSes, like drivers. Typically, you would pop in the SD card, access the IPMI, upload the ISO (which gets stored on the SD card), proceed to mount the ISO and then boot off the ISO. It's a very nifty way of getting around the need for USB flash drives and Rufus/dd/Etcher :)
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theflo84
Nahhhhh. More then 1500+ Dollars for a Motherboard is what you get when you are happily willing to buy 1500+ GPUs :)
Was just a Question of Time. AMD for sure will be the next Ones who are selling 1500+ Dollars CPUs. Next Time. Just wait for it. SSDs are already insanely Overpriced (PCIE 4.0 M.2 with 2 Terabytes). So what can be the next Thing that will get insane Prices? Maybe RAM. Yeah. Lets sell 64GB DDR5 RAM for 600 each. GG.
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Nahhhhh. More then 1500+ Dollars for a Motherboard is what you get when you are happily willing to buy 1500+ GPUs :)
Was just a Question of Time. AMD for sure will be the next Ones who are selling 1500+ Dollars CPUs. Next Time. Just wait for it. SSDs are already insanely Overpriced (PCIE 4.0 M.2 with 2 Terabytes). So what can be the next Thing that will get insane Prices? Maybe RAM. Yeah. Lets sell 64GB DDR5 RAM for 600 each. GG.
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Bill
Just so glad to see this kind of attention to a great platform. I'm sure we'll see ACS/ARI for a great private VDI setup (it was my deciding factor for ASUS X570 Pro WS). Seeing the slimline SAS on the Gigabyte was a real delight, I think I'm gunning for it more than anything else. VERY curious to see what would happen if a non-Pro CPU ran on these platforms, would it work and if so with what features. GREAT video man, cheers!
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Just so glad to see this kind of attention to a great platform. I'm sure we'll see ACS/ARI for a great private VDI setup (it was my deciding factor for ASUS X570 Pro WS). Seeing the slimline SAS on the Gigabyte was a real delight, I think I'm gunning for it more than anything else. VERY curious to see what would happen if a non-Pro CPU ran on these platforms, would it work and if so with what features. GREAT video man, cheers!
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