184 Threat to AMD: Intel i5-11400 CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. R5 3600, 5600X, 11600K
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Over time, even with >90% yields, AMD will eventually have enough lower end 4 & 6 core parts available but nothing has been announced. I suspect they are hesitant to release any sub 200 CPUs as they can sell every premium CPU they can make and don't want to undercut.
Date: 2021-04-02
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Comments and reviews: 9
Jer0tube
AMD are no doubt very good, I was almost about to buy an AMD CPU for my recent build, and on my next build I most likely will jump ship, why the hell not?. I have an AMD laptop and it's great! This was all good until I phoned around and simply could not obtain any high end CPU's in the AMD range that I wanted to use ANYWHERE!!!. At the time the motherboards required BIOS changes to support the CPU, for me that the last straw and I just went Intel. I put an i9 10900k in my current build, absolutely flawless straight up and running, stone cold on the bulk of the applications I have been using and will probably last me another 10 years.
I was easily able to get the i9 10900k Intel for a good price, without any trouble. Cheapest is not always the best, as is highest spec is not always the best. AMD are good only if you can actually buy them. You can bet Intel are going to bring out a great CPU in the near future closely followed or leapfrogged by AMD, competition is driving insanely good products for consumers. I just wish people would stop bagging Intel, they've long been the CPU of choice for very valid reasons, they're surely not going to lay low and just let AMD trample over them forever.
I can not believe people are still constantly banging on about Intel still using 14nm lithography, and yet they're still up there competing against the higher end of AMD cpu's at least in the real world consumer market, the absolute high high end CPU's most people wouldn't buy anyway. If Intel are this good at the moment on the last dreads of their 14nm line ups, what will they be like when they downscale their lithography in future CPU's?
Great times for all PC users.
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AMD are no doubt very good, I was almost about to buy an AMD CPU for my recent build, and on my next build I most likely will jump ship, why the hell not?. I have an AMD laptop and it's great! This was all good until I phoned around and simply could not obtain any high end CPU's in the AMD range that I wanted to use ANYWHERE!!!. At the time the motherboards required BIOS changes to support the CPU, for me that the last straw and I just went Intel. I put an i9 10900k in my current build, absolutely flawless straight up and running, stone cold on the bulk of the applications I have been using and will probably last me another 10 years.
I was easily able to get the i9 10900k Intel for a good price, without any trouble. Cheapest is not always the best, as is highest spec is not always the best. AMD are good only if you can actually buy them. You can bet Intel are going to bring out a great CPU in the near future closely followed or leapfrogged by AMD, competition is driving insanely good products for consumers. I just wish people would stop bagging Intel, they've long been the CPU of choice for very valid reasons, they're surely not going to lay low and just let AMD trample over them forever.
I can not believe people are still constantly banging on about Intel still using 14nm lithography, and yet they're still up there competing against the higher end of AMD cpu's at least in the real world consumer market, the absolute high high end CPU's most people wouldn't buy anyway. If Intel are this good at the moment on the last dreads of their 14nm line ups, what will they be like when they downscale their lithography in future CPU's?
Great times for all PC users.
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Shad
Wow, I bought the 2600x for 220.00 Canadian! I find myself very disappointed with AMD for abandoning all of their long time supporters by pursuing a policy of greed. I cannot in good conscience buy Intel parts. I will not abandon ethics to save a few bucks or gain a small performance advantage. So, I will probably be stuck with this rig for quite some time while I wait for a possible new player in the field that I might actually find have some ethics. But right now, the 5600x costs more than double the same part I bought 3 years ago. For what? A 30% increase in real world performance? It is a tremendous shame that after 25 years of go go AMD , I find myself saying f ck you - you're no better than Intel . Instead of adopting pro-consumer practices, they have simply grabbed onto the anti-consumer baton and are running with it.
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Wow, I bought the 2600x for 220.00 Canadian! I find myself very disappointed with AMD for abandoning all of their long time supporters by pursuing a policy of greed. I cannot in good conscience buy Intel parts. I will not abandon ethics to save a few bucks or gain a small performance advantage. So, I will probably be stuck with this rig for quite some time while I wait for a possible new player in the field that I might actually find have some ethics. But right now, the 5600x costs more than double the same part I bought 3 years ago. For what? A 30% increase in real world performance? It is a tremendous shame that after 25 years of go go AMD , I find myself saying f ck you - you're no better than Intel . Instead of adopting pro-consumer practices, they have simply grabbed onto the anti-consumer baton and are running with it.
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gruzzob
Interesting CPU,, and great tests as usual.
However, the CPU power consumption/efficiency is only really usable when sizing PSU or coolors. But for time-bounded operations (like most professional workflows), energy consumption would help tell a more complete picture than power consumption alone. Energy consumption would be less useful for gaming tasks, as the amount of time people tend to game is independent of performance.
Just a point to think about for improving your already excellent test suite.
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Interesting CPU,, and great tests as usual.
However, the CPU power consumption/efficiency is only really usable when sizing PSU or coolors. But for time-bounded operations (like most professional workflows), energy consumption would help tell a more complete picture than power consumption alone. Energy consumption would be less useful for gaming tasks, as the amount of time people tend to game is independent of performance.
Just a point to think about for improving your already excellent test suite.
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itech
Can you please roast gigabyte for bricking their 3090s and all around selling me a smoking 2500 piece of crap thanks.
(rev 1) 3090 master. Apparently they knew there would be a rev 2...
Aorus engine,
driver update tool states:
detecting update information is failure
Bios update tool states:
no any updates
stuck using creative drivers (over writing my silent bios )from Nvidia because I don't trust gigabyte to update their own products.
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Can you please roast gigabyte for bricking their 3090s and all around selling me a smoking 2500 piece of crap thanks.
(rev 1) 3090 master. Apparently they knew there would be a rev 2...
Aorus engine,
driver update tool states:
detecting update information is failure
Bios update tool states:
no any updates
stuck using creative drivers (over writing my silent bios )from Nvidia because I don't trust gigabyte to update their own products.
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Rob
Hard to believe that a little more than a year ago you could get a 1600AF for 85 and a 3600 for 160. I said at the time I thought we were going to look back on 2019 and early 2020 as a golden age of PC component prices. PSUs were in short supply but in hindsight that was a very short lived period of constraint and a modest 10% increase in street price. If you could get a GPU for just 10% over list you would be praising the deities.
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Hard to believe that a little more than a year ago you could get a 1600AF for 85 and a 3600 for 160. I said at the time I thought we were going to look back on 2019 and early 2020 as a golden age of PC component prices. PSUs were in short supply but in hindsight that was a very short lived period of constraint and a modest 10% increase in street price. If you could get a GPU for just 10% over list you would be praising the deities.
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maldar82
The 10400 is 160 right now on Amazon and can be paired with the 500 series motherboards for memory OC. Surprised to see that excluded from the charts when you tested it last year with your 3200 kit.
I'd like to see a difference between the 730 graphics on this and 750 graphics on everything else. I know iGPU isn't important to a lot of people but some care. The 11400 is the only cpu with a cut down gpu.
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The 10400 is 160 right now on Amazon and can be paired with the 500 series motherboards for memory OC. Surprised to see that excluded from the charts when you tested it last year with your 3200 kit.
I'd like to see a difference between the 730 graphics on this and 750 graphics on everything else. I know iGPU isn't important to a lot of people but some care. The 11400 is the only cpu with a cut down gpu.
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ultraviolet
It is never a good thing to compete in a lower price category when you used to be able to command a higher transaction price. Sadly Intel has become a shadow of its former self and is reduced to having to peddle cheap garbage while AMD is moving into the territory that was ruled by AMD. I didn't watch all of this because I can't watch a younger Mrs. Doubtfire with a beard.
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It is never a good thing to compete in a lower price category when you used to be able to command a higher transaction price. Sadly Intel has become a shadow of its former self and is reduced to having to peddle cheap garbage while AMD is moving into the territory that was ruled by AMD. I didn't watch all of this because I can't watch a younger Mrs. Doubtfire with a beard.
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Danielle
Any insight into the CPU that will be used for the typical corporate computer desktop refresh, where the average user used MS Office, or uses there desktop computer as a terminal? See any numbers to show size of that market vs the home / gamer desktop market? (Not sure if there is a corporate computer refresh market with so many people working from home)
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Any insight into the CPU that will be used for the typical corporate computer desktop refresh, where the average user used MS Office, or uses there desktop computer as a terminal? See any numbers to show size of that market vs the home / gamer desktop market? (Not sure if there is a corporate computer refresh market with so many people working from home)
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Mithrennon
All those Benchmarks and yet no comparison to the most dangerous and relevant competitor to the 11400... Comet Lake's 10400... how does it stack up to the very cheap and respectable current king of the budget market the 10400?
I really think all those Benchmarks and no 10400 is missing themost important comparison.
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All those Benchmarks and yet no comparison to the most dangerous and relevant competitor to the 11400... Comet Lake's 10400... how does it stack up to the very cheap and respectable current king of the budget market the 10400?
I really think all those Benchmarks and no 10400 is missing themost important comparison.
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