AMD Announces New Ryzen 5000 APUs: R7 5700G, R5 5600G, R3 5300G Specs & Details
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Date: 2021-04-14
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I don't get why AMD would pair the highest core count CPU with the highest core count GPU.
I know it sounds like it makes sense but when you stop and think about the actual use case..it really doesn't add up.
The cheapest APU will likely power cheaper gaming rigs as I doubt the eight core APU will make any sense for a cheap gaming build due to cost unless you plan to purchase a dedicated GPU very soon. Even then you have to think about the costs involved with the current market of PC components, especially the GPU. If you can afford to wait until you have a GPU in hand then why buy an APU? If you can afford to buy a GPU soon in the current market..why use a stop gap? Lastly, if you need it for work purposes now and will add in a dGPU later then why not just buy i5-11600k or 11400?
Realistically the best integrated GPU should have been paired with the cheaper CPUs as currently the dedicated GPU market is wildly inflated. That makes an APU powered system all the more viable if the pricing makes sense, and like I said, I doubt the eight core APU will make sense for gaming.
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I don't get why AMD would pair the highest core count CPU with the highest core count GPU.
I know it sounds like it makes sense but when you stop and think about the actual use case..it really doesn't add up.
The cheapest APU will likely power cheaper gaming rigs as I doubt the eight core APU will make any sense for a cheap gaming build due to cost unless you plan to purchase a dedicated GPU very soon. Even then you have to think about the costs involved with the current market of PC components, especially the GPU. If you can afford to wait until you have a GPU in hand then why buy an APU? If you can afford to buy a GPU soon in the current market..why use a stop gap? Lastly, if you need it for work purposes now and will add in a dGPU later then why not just buy i5-11600k or 11400?
Realistically the best integrated GPU should have been paired with the cheaper CPUs as currently the dedicated GPU market is wildly inflated. That makes an APU powered system all the more viable if the pricing makes sense, and like I said, I doubt the eight core APU will make sense for gaming.
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Martin
The APU/iGPU series is interesting for office use and for stopgap as mentioned.
I am HOPING that once AMD moves to chiplets for their GPUs, they'll just strap a single chiplet onto their APUs. Suppose a 6900XT class is 4 chiplets, at which point a single chiplet (and APU) would be 20 compute units. At 8 chiplets it'd be 10 compute units, which would allow them to use faulty ones for APUs with 8, 7 and 6 CUs. That'd be incredibly boring to be honest, but probably make more business sense.
But a 20 CU APU part would be pretty good. Right now that would be half a 6700XT, which would be insane performance for integrated graphics. It'd pretty much be the equivalent of an RX580 (but with memory bottlenecks).
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The APU/iGPU series is interesting for office use and for stopgap as mentioned.
I am HOPING that once AMD moves to chiplets for their GPUs, they'll just strap a single chiplet onto their APUs. Suppose a 6900XT class is 4 chiplets, at which point a single chiplet (and APU) would be 20 compute units. At 8 chiplets it'd be 10 compute units, which would allow them to use faulty ones for APUs with 8, 7 and 6 CUs. That'd be incredibly boring to be honest, but probably make more business sense.
But a 20 CU APU part would be pretty good. Right now that would be half a 6700XT, which would be insane performance for integrated graphics. It'd pretty much be the equivalent of an RX580 (but with memory bottlenecks).
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1stGruhn
I've been wanting to build a small form factor HTPC for a while now... getting a good IGPU that doesn't suck power is important for the PicoPSU I'll likely use. Gaming will likely be done via streaming it from my primary desktop. My current setup, while adequate for video streaming, has some short comings on the game streaming front (it is a HP minidesk with a 4th gen i3: not bad from Amazon for 200 for the full refurbished machine but too slow even for game streaming). I'll probably update my home network to 2.5 GB from 1GB once I update the HTPC....
I've been holding off till chip availability is better and my wife wants a new kitchen floor first... which is the real reason for waiting lol
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I've been wanting to build a small form factor HTPC for a while now... getting a good IGPU that doesn't suck power is important for the PicoPSU I'll likely use. Gaming will likely be done via streaming it from my primary desktop. My current setup, while adequate for video streaming, has some short comings on the game streaming front (it is a HP minidesk with a 4th gen i3: not bad from Amazon for 200 for the full refurbished machine but too slow even for game streaming). I'll probably update my home network to 2.5 GB from 1GB once I update the HTPC....
I've been holding off till chip availability is better and my wife wants a new kitchen floor first... which is the real reason for waiting lol
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Hadar1991
After 10 years of being forced to use old laptop with integrated graphics (1st gen Intel HD Graphics) I was planning for last two years to buy my absolutely Glorious PC Gaming Master Race desktop in 2021, but prices went mad. So I have top PSU, M/B, RAM, SSD but instead of buying 5900X (which went out of stock) I was forced to buy 3600 as placeholder. Furthermore I couldn't buy any GPU in reasonable price so I took from my brother old used... HD7770... :v It there was a 5900G available at MSRP I would buy it just now, while waiting for GPU prices to fall down.
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After 10 years of being forced to use old laptop with integrated graphics (1st gen Intel HD Graphics) I was planning for last two years to buy my absolutely Glorious PC Gaming Master Race desktop in 2021, but prices went mad. So I have top PSU, M/B, RAM, SSD but instead of buying 5900X (which went out of stock) I was forced to buy 3600 as placeholder. Furthermore I couldn't buy any GPU in reasonable price so I took from my brother old used... HD7770... :v It there was a 5900G available at MSRP I would buy it just now, while waiting for GPU prices to fall down.
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PANDA
I m surprised we don t just make big tall APUs and try to cool all 5 open sides [not plugged into the mobo]with heat sink fan combos. Seems like we missed another spot for convergence. Same amount of time,money, innovation spent on GPU and CPU dedicated entirely to all in one APUs, we d get to the same performance that phones experienced in the big 07 iPhone/smartphone processor jump.
Seems like we have so much further to go in innovation but we ve been stuck in a rut of what s known and what s currently known to be the cheapest, most durable, most available.
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I m surprised we don t just make big tall APUs and try to cool all 5 open sides [not plugged into the mobo]with heat sink fan combos. Seems like we missed another spot for convergence. Same amount of time,money, innovation spent on GPU and CPU dedicated entirely to all in one APUs, we d get to the same performance that phones experienced in the big 07 iPhone/smartphone processor jump.
Seems like we have so much further to go in innovation but we ve been stuck in a rut of what s known and what s currently known to be the cheapest, most durable, most available.
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TheVerrm
The most important difference that gets neglected by people is that Intel CPUs with iGPU perform the same to 'F' (non-iGPU) parts. The Ryzen G processors are slower in CPU performance then their non-iGPU parts (for example in gaming with dGPU), mostly due to lowered cache. This means that if you're buying G version of Ryzen as a stop-gap you need to understand that you're buying a bit slower CPU then non-G part. I'm sad that AMD is still stuck with Vega iGPUs.. They're milking us at this point doing everything not to bite into lower-end dGPU market...
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The most important difference that gets neglected by people is that Intel CPUs with iGPU perform the same to 'F' (non-iGPU) parts. The Ryzen G processors are slower in CPU performance then their non-iGPU parts (for example in gaming with dGPU), mostly due to lowered cache. This means that if you're buying G version of Ryzen as a stop-gap you need to understand that you're buying a bit slower CPU then non-G part. I'm sad that AMD is still stuck with Vega iGPUs.. They're milking us at this point doing everything not to bite into lower-end dGPU market...
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Pierr
The 5600 kinda feels like a glorified 3600 or 2600x just with an added igpu.I like the new naming but it all comes down to price as you can get a 3400g with 16gb ram and an 256ssd for around 382 usd here.It's the best go to option here if you are on a tight budget.I am predicting these will be way overprices and with cpu shortages people will still buy it.It's on hardware vendors to make sure if they bring out new products that there's stock.Personally this is just another way they try to milk us for our hard earned cash.
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The 5600 kinda feels like a glorified 3600 or 2600x just with an added igpu.I like the new naming but it all comes down to price as you can get a 3400g with 16gb ram and an 256ssd for around 382 usd here.It's the best go to option here if you are on a tight budget.I am predicting these will be way overprices and with cpu shortages people will still buy it.It's on hardware vendors to make sure if they bring out new products that there's stock.Personally this is just another way they try to milk us for our hard earned cash.
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Catriona
Looking forward to the prices of these things. For budget builders who want an upgrade path the question is currently whether to spend the money on an 11th higher Intel with a bad iGPU, or a lower end CPU like a Ryzen 3600 or an i5 with a 1050ti, which still available now and then. And then tally the cost of probably CPU upgrades and used part sales after acquiring an actual modern graphics card. The Ryzen APUs open another option. But it depends on their price.
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Looking forward to the prices of these things. For budget builders who want an upgrade path the question is currently whether to spend the money on an 11th higher Intel with a bad iGPU, or a lower end CPU like a Ryzen 3600 or an i5 with a 1050ti, which still available now and then. And then tally the cost of probably CPU upgrades and used part sales after acquiring an actual modern graphics card. The Ryzen APUs open another option. But it depends on their price.
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Andrew
I have a 2200G and it plays the games I want pretty well. Civ6 4k works fine if you use the strategy map and SW:TOR is okay at 4k. Little slow in some places but I don't run minimum settings so I could tune it a bit more.
I might upgrade to a 5600/5700g depending on pricing and how it actually performs. I hope this time around the 5xxxGs + dGPU is closer to 5xxxX than the renoir APUs were to 3xxx series parts.
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I have a 2200G and it plays the games I want pretty well. Civ6 4k works fine if you use the strategy map and SW:TOR is okay at 4k. Little slow in some places but I don't run minimum settings so I could tune it a bit more.
I might upgrade to a 5600/5700g depending on pricing and how it actually performs. I hope this time around the 5xxxGs + dGPU is closer to 5xxxX than the renoir APUs were to 3xxx series parts.
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The
i'd troll that My mostly finished build. DIY transparent LCD. 3080, i9, 32gb ram post on the pcmasterrace sub on reddit but it is so bad already it's like the total opposite of my pure AMD build I said nothing there...14nm+++++++++++++++++ with 8nm Fermi 2.0 Architecture heats up your home on cold winter nights.
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i'd troll that My mostly finished build. DIY transparent LCD. 3080, i9, 32gb ram post on the pcmasterrace sub on reddit but it is so bad already it's like the total opposite of my pure AMD build I said nothing there...14nm+++++++++++++++++ with 8nm Fermi 2.0 Architecture heats up your home on cold winter nights.
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