Smelling Like Fire is a Feature: PowerColor RX 5600 XT Red Dragon Review
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Date: 2020-05-06
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tietosanakirja
I bought the fore mentioned Red Dragon over the Pulse. Why? you may ask. Because the Pulse is over two slots thick and I was building for a very compact ITX case. Red Dragon fit easily. Out of the potentially working options, I chose the Red Dragon, because GN had not specifically bashed it's cooler design or quality, to my knowledge, before this video, as was done to the XFX RX TICCC and the severe problems with MSI Gaming X, when reviewing 5700s. I was disappointed that you didn't provide much new info in the half an hour video. Mostly just complained about the mess that it is. What I was hoping for, was tips for dealing with the mess, such as when exactly was the revised not-terrible OC bios released? I found an updated bios from PowerColor, but it's dated Jan. 27th, not couple days before the release of this video. Is this the one, or am I frying my card with this? There was only anecdotal reference to actual performance of the card. If I had been shopping for my personal rig, I'd gone with the Pulse. It's really the only card any reviewer reviewed, and I can see why. It performs about best from the cards and doesn't melt. It just doesn't fit all cases. No pun intended. Giving it how it is, is useful for us consumers and entertaining when given as brutal honesty, directed at a party, in which you are not invested in. However, it shouldn't be done at the expense of accurate information, information of which GN is renown for. I hope you can recover from the frustrations of this launch, so we (and I) can too.
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I bought the fore mentioned Red Dragon over the Pulse. Why? you may ask. Because the Pulse is over two slots thick and I was building for a very compact ITX case. Red Dragon fit easily. Out of the potentially working options, I chose the Red Dragon, because GN had not specifically bashed it's cooler design or quality, to my knowledge, before this video, as was done to the XFX RX TICCC and the severe problems with MSI Gaming X, when reviewing 5700s. I was disappointed that you didn't provide much new info in the half an hour video. Mostly just complained about the mess that it is. What I was hoping for, was tips for dealing with the mess, such as when exactly was the revised not-terrible OC bios released? I found an updated bios from PowerColor, but it's dated Jan. 27th, not couple days before the release of this video. Is this the one, or am I frying my card with this? There was only anecdotal reference to actual performance of the card. If I had been shopping for my personal rig, I'd gone with the Pulse. It's really the only card any reviewer reviewed, and I can see why. It performs about best from the cards and doesn't melt. It just doesn't fit all cases. No pun intended. Giving it how it is, is useful for us consumers and entertaining when given as brutal honesty, directed at a party, in which you are not invested in. However, it shouldn't be done at the expense of accurate information, information of which GN is renown for. I hope you can recover from the frustrations of this launch, so we (and I) can too.
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Jake
Yep, my new 3d printer makes that same familiar scorched electronics smell every time I fire it up. It seems to work fine, but the other printer right next to it that I built like 7 years ago has never had burning electronics smell (except the time the power cable melted and almost set off all the fire alarms at my dorm except in my quick thinking I had it unplugged in 2 seconds and had a box fan placed in the window venting it out within seconds of the incident. I m a bit wary of the new one, it s using a bit less robust parts it seems, but it hasn t caught fire YET and it s done about 50 hours of printing within a week or so of building it. I may add a fuse to it sometime though, haha! I m good at letting magic smoke out of electronics, but it s been days of that smell so I can feel for your office smelling like that, haha, that s how my house smells even though that room almost always has a box fan blowing the room out even though it s winter and it s still smelling like that!
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Yep, my new 3d printer makes that same familiar scorched electronics smell every time I fire it up. It seems to work fine, but the other printer right next to it that I built like 7 years ago has never had burning electronics smell (except the time the power cable melted and almost set off all the fire alarms at my dorm except in my quick thinking I had it unplugged in 2 seconds and had a box fan placed in the window venting it out within seconds of the incident. I m a bit wary of the new one, it s using a bit less robust parts it seems, but it hasn t caught fire YET and it s done about 50 hours of printing within a week or so of building it. I may add a fuse to it sometime though, haha! I m good at letting magic smoke out of electronics, but it s been days of that smell so I can feel for your office smelling like that, haha, that s how my house smells even though that room almost always has a box fan blowing the room out even though it s winter and it s still smelling like that!
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SysGhost
This is the reason why I never trust a graphic cards internal fan controller. The first thing I do in my builds is to hook up the fans to the motherboard and sometimes replace the stock cooler with an aftermarket one. In. Every. Single. Build. Not just AMD / ATI cards. Nvidia cards too back in the time when they had the same problems. I never ever trust graphic card fan control. Ever! Will never do. EDIT: When it comes to replaceable fans, it's not that much of help really. The manufacturer will most likely not keep replacement fans in stock for long. As soon as the support life for the card goes out, so will any spare parts too. Every model of fans will have a different type of attachment/connector so the chance of finding new fans that fit once they are worn out will be almost zero. With this in mind replaceable fans is just a gimmick.
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This is the reason why I never trust a graphic cards internal fan controller. The first thing I do in my builds is to hook up the fans to the motherboard and sometimes replace the stock cooler with an aftermarket one. In. Every. Single. Build. Not just AMD / ATI cards. Nvidia cards too back in the time when they had the same problems. I never ever trust graphic card fan control. Ever! Will never do. EDIT: When it comes to replaceable fans, it's not that much of help really. The manufacturer will most likely not keep replacement fans in stock for long. As soon as the support life for the card goes out, so will any spare parts too. Every model of fans will have a different type of attachment/connector so the chance of finding new fans that fit once they are worn out will be almost zero. With this in mind replaceable fans is just a gimmick.
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AL
i was going to buy the Red Dragon but i hated the fact that the exhaust is closed off by the plastic shroud. i know its not a blower fan type but the exhaust vent can still be used to take heat off gpu and out of the case. PowerColor should cut back on heat pipes maybe go with 3 or 4 and put a small fin stack oriented like the pulse along the back to get some of the heat out the back of the PC thru exhaust. it would work better than 5 pipes and less surface ares from over all thin finstacks and exhaust closed off.
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i was going to buy the Red Dragon but i hated the fact that the exhaust is closed off by the plastic shroud. i know its not a blower fan type but the exhaust vent can still be used to take heat off gpu and out of the case. PowerColor should cut back on heat pipes maybe go with 3 or 4 and put a small fin stack oriented like the pulse along the back to get some of the heat out the back of the PC thru exhaust. it would work better than 5 pipes and less surface ares from over all thin finstacks and exhaust closed off.
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Roberto
PowerColor Worts GPU manufacturer really. bad fans, bad bearing, cant even clean without voidin your warranty and hot AF even with fans at 100% sometimes i get over 90C playing apex. the RMA is the worts part you sent a rx 470 red dragon (dual fan) and they sent you a rx 570 with only a fan in the middle that performs worts than the original RX 470. have to downclock to see it below 80C, thats why if you want AMD buy Sapphire
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PowerColor Worts GPU manufacturer really. bad fans, bad bearing, cant even clean without voidin your warranty and hot AF even with fans at 100% sometimes i get over 90C playing apex. the RMA is the worts part you sent a rx 470 red dragon (dual fan) and they sent you a rx 570 with only a fan in the middle that performs worts than the original RX 470. have to downclock to see it below 80C, thats why if you want AMD buy Sapphire
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Tharindu
Gamer Nexus Correct me if I am wrong, AMD's new cards' hotspot means transiter temps right? and the other temp they are showing is the surface temperature. And Nvidia GPUs doesn't show us transistor (junction/hotspot) temps, they only show the surface temps of the die. That's why Nvidia cards throttle around 90c, because actual hotspot temp is around 105. But people compare AMD hotspot against NVs surface temps.
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Gamer Nexus Correct me if I am wrong, AMD's new cards' hotspot means transiter temps right? and the other temp they are showing is the surface temperature. And Nvidia GPUs doesn't show us transistor (junction/hotspot) temps, they only show the surface temps of the die. That's why Nvidia cards throttle around 90c, because actual hotspot temp is around 105. But people compare AMD hotspot against NVs surface temps.
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Kinomora
You guys have the best graphs over anyone else, but PLEASE when you're comparing two products please make them different hues of the same color! For example when comparing different VBIOS for the Pulse and Red Dragon, you could make all of the Pulse graphs different hues of Blue and all of the Red Dragon different hues of Red. This would make it so much easier to spot-compare while watching without pausing
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You guys have the best graphs over anyone else, but PLEASE when you're comparing two products please make them different hues of the same color! For example when comparing different VBIOS for the Pulse and Red Dragon, you could make all of the Pulse graphs different hues of Blue and all of the Red Dragon different hues of Red. This would make it so much easier to spot-compare while watching without pausing
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James
I had an EVGA RTX2070 that I received VIA RMA. It artifacted like CRAZY and actually smelled up my entire gaming room like burnt electronics. It was TERRIBLE I sent it back (again) immediately. The fans were spinning, but the heatsink was super hot even on the desktop. It was INSANE! Luckily they actually tested the replacement and I got a good replacement. Whoever QCed that card failed miserably!
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I had an EVGA RTX2070 that I received VIA RMA. It artifacted like CRAZY and actually smelled up my entire gaming room like burnt electronics. It was TERRIBLE I sent it back (again) immediately. The fans were spinning, but the heatsink was super hot even on the desktop. It was INSANE! Luckily they actually tested the replacement and I got a good replacement. Whoever QCed that card failed miserably!
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Untethered
Bought this card two weeks ago, flashed it. Got artifacts and green screen crashes. Exchanged it for the Gigabyte Gaming OC variant, flashed it. Kept crashing, green screen, artifacting on DX12. Today, exchanged it for an RTX 2060 KO Ultra. No. Issues. I'm sorry AMD but this launch was a mess and you need to fix your damn drivers. Also, even on the old bios the cards crashed.
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Bought this card two weeks ago, flashed it. Got artifacts and green screen crashes. Exchanged it for the Gigabyte Gaming OC variant, flashed it. Kept crashing, green screen, artifacting on DX12. Today, exchanged it for an RTX 2060 KO Ultra. No. Issues. I'm sorry AMD but this launch was a mess and you need to fix your damn drivers. Also, even on the old bios the cards crashed.
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Stephen
That's really too bad. I had the RX480 red dragon, my son still uses it. Great card. Vega 56 Red Dragon. Daughter uses it. BRILLIANT card. Best Vega 56 design. And they release this. I'm so bummed. Come on Powercolor! Great video Steve. PS. I have the 5700xt Pulse myself now. Powercolor didn't get that dragon out by the time I wanted it.
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That's really too bad. I had the RX480 red dragon, my son still uses it. Great card. Vega 56 Red Dragon. Daughter uses it. BRILLIANT card. Best Vega 56 design. And they release this. I'm so bummed. Come on Powercolor! Great video Steve. PS. I have the 5700xt Pulse myself now. Powercolor didn't get that dragon out by the time I wanted it.
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