HW News - New 80-Core CPU, Intel Behind Until 2021, AMD Zen 3 & 4
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Mark
I actually didn't know why you originally said Human Malware in another video, now it makes sense. However my issue here with Youtube, like many things it censors/bans/demonetises, is it quotes misinformation, yet the mainstream or authoritative sources as Youtube calls them, are allowed to say the actual name of Human Malware, and they've most definitely being spreading misinformation and hysteria. In the US the CDC estimates that as many as 56, 000 people die from the flu or flu-like illness each year, to date 26 people have died in the US from Human Malware, far from statistics of flu which stands at 10, 000 deaths in 2020 (March 3. In the UK it is estimated that an average of 600 people a year die from complications of common flu, also a Human Malware strain. In some years it is estimated that this can rise to over 10, 000 deaths, for example in 2008 over 13, 000 died! The week of December 8 2019 there were 472 admitted to hospital for flu, 8 people died in that week in intensive care units, that's 3 more people who died than the 5 Human Malware is responsible for in the first 11 weeks of 2020! Worldwide common flu kills 291, 000 to 646, 000 people worldwide each year. To date it is estimated that 3, 000 people have died worldwide from Human Malware, far from the flu annual statistics. The World Health Organisation states flu has a mortality rate of 1. 3% and Human Malware currently 1. 4%, as it stands Human Malware is no more dangerous than common flu, despite all the scaremongering and misinformation from the mainstream media. I'm not saying Human Malware isn't a risk, I'm saying statistically it's not as horrific currently as the media will have us believe. I mean people in the UK are panic buying everything from hand wash to toilet roll, to beans and other tinned food, to pasta, to cereals, to frozen veg, its crazy, all over a 0. 1% difference in mortality, because the media tells us to be scared!
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I actually didn't know why you originally said Human Malware in another video, now it makes sense. However my issue here with Youtube, like many things it censors/bans/demonetises, is it quotes misinformation, yet the mainstream or authoritative sources as Youtube calls them, are allowed to say the actual name of Human Malware, and they've most definitely being spreading misinformation and hysteria. In the US the CDC estimates that as many as 56, 000 people die from the flu or flu-like illness each year, to date 26 people have died in the US from Human Malware, far from statistics of flu which stands at 10, 000 deaths in 2020 (March 3. In the UK it is estimated that an average of 600 people a year die from complications of common flu, also a Human Malware strain. In some years it is estimated that this can rise to over 10, 000 deaths, for example in 2008 over 13, 000 died! The week of December 8 2019 there were 472 admitted to hospital for flu, 8 people died in that week in intensive care units, that's 3 more people who died than the 5 Human Malware is responsible for in the first 11 weeks of 2020! Worldwide common flu kills 291, 000 to 646, 000 people worldwide each year. To date it is estimated that 3, 000 people have died worldwide from Human Malware, far from the flu annual statistics. The World Health Organisation states flu has a mortality rate of 1. 3% and Human Malware currently 1. 4%, as it stands Human Malware is no more dangerous than common flu, despite all the scaremongering and misinformation from the mainstream media. I'm not saying Human Malware isn't a risk, I'm saying statistically it's not as horrific currently as the media will have us believe. I mean people in the UK are panic buying everything from hand wash to toilet roll, to beans and other tinned food, to pasta, to cereals, to frozen veg, its crazy, all over a 0. 1% difference in mortality, because the media tells us to be scared!
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BookWorm84
Questions for for the pro OCers: What resources would you recommend for people starting out that would get them to a proficient level at CPU OCing, GPU OCing, Memory OCing for daily use? Competitive OCing? Is there anything you wished you had known when you first started OCing that would have helped you avoid a major mistake or pitfall? Whats your most derp moment? Whats your best accidental moment where everything went right? Is there a free or cheap technical source that breaks down CPU OCing (like a reference manual? GPU? Memory? That covers both competitive OCing and daily driver OCing? Whats your favorite current platform to work with? Why? What memory do you like OCing? Why? What die type? What GPUs have you had the most success with OCing? Air or water for a OCed daily rig? Does it matter? Is there a calculator you use to do your initial settings before starting your tweaks? Or do you start with your own set of values because you just know what will probably work? Thanks! Have an awesome trip! Sending you guys masks and love from FLORIDA!
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Questions for for the pro OCers: What resources would you recommend for people starting out that would get them to a proficient level at CPU OCing, GPU OCing, Memory OCing for daily use? Competitive OCing? Is there anything you wished you had known when you first started OCing that would have helped you avoid a major mistake or pitfall? Whats your most derp moment? Whats your best accidental moment where everything went right? Is there a free or cheap technical source that breaks down CPU OCing (like a reference manual? GPU? Memory? That covers both competitive OCing and daily driver OCing? Whats your favorite current platform to work with? Why? What memory do you like OCing? Why? What die type? What GPUs have you had the most success with OCing? Air or water for a OCed daily rig? Does it matter? Is there a calculator you use to do your initial settings before starting your tweaks? Or do you start with your own set of values because you just know what will probably work? Thanks! Have an awesome trip! Sending you guys masks and love from FLORIDA!
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Shady
Intel needs new management or something. They have every reason to get their shit together, and they can't seem to figure it out. Ryzen has undercut their i5 lineup almost entirely (i say almost because at least the i5's still have IGP for normal desktop users, but this doesn't apply to people playing games. Surely AMD has taken a large enough bite out of Intel's market share to motivate them to refine their manufacturing and get something out. Yet, the clock keeps ticking, and nothing. Intel said they were launching EUV in 2020. Now you're talking about post 2021. I think the industry is changing. I wouldn't be surprised if a company like Apple starts selling CPU's or GPU's at some point in the future. A company like Apple has far more revenue to hire the best engineers if they wanted to do this. This is what I call runaway capitalism. Once a company becomes large enough, they can essentially eat a bunch of other industries by being able to afford the best engineers or creative people to come and work for them.
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Intel needs new management or something. They have every reason to get their shit together, and they can't seem to figure it out. Ryzen has undercut their i5 lineup almost entirely (i say almost because at least the i5's still have IGP for normal desktop users, but this doesn't apply to people playing games. Surely AMD has taken a large enough bite out of Intel's market share to motivate them to refine their manufacturing and get something out. Yet, the clock keeps ticking, and nothing. Intel said they were launching EUV in 2020. Now you're talking about post 2021. I think the industry is changing. I wouldn't be surprised if a company like Apple starts selling CPU's or GPU's at some point in the future. A company like Apple has far more revenue to hire the best engineers if they wanted to do this. This is what I call runaway capitalism. Once a company becomes large enough, they can essentially eat a bunch of other industries by being able to afford the best engineers or creative people to come and work for them.
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Rocky12345
Great video thank you. I was very impressed with the Seasonic part of the video I like this idea a lot. It was also great to hear that AMD is pretty much on coarse with their CPU & GPU's. About the Human malware and YT it is good to see that they may be changing their status on that it seems rather strange no one is allowed to mention it in videos for fear of not making any money because of it. I do see why they may have taken this stance because of all of those that might take advantage of it and spread miss information about the Human Malware issue. All you have to do is go and look at regular media and see how they are putting out a lot of miss information about this. Heck this past weekend our local big store went from having lots of toilet paper in stock to pretty much almost non because the media was spreading lot of fud and it got people all scared and then they started over reacting and buying every roll of TP they could find as well as a lot of other things as well.
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Great video thank you. I was very impressed with the Seasonic part of the video I like this idea a lot. It was also great to hear that AMD is pretty much on coarse with their CPU & GPU's. About the Human malware and YT it is good to see that they may be changing their status on that it seems rather strange no one is allowed to mention it in videos for fear of not making any money because of it. I do see why they may have taken this stance because of all of those that might take advantage of it and spread miss information about the Human Malware issue. All you have to do is go and look at regular media and see how they are putting out a lot of miss information about this. Heck this past weekend our local big store went from having lots of toilet paper in stock to pretty much almost non because the media was spreading lot of fud and it got people all scared and then they started over reacting and buying every roll of TP they could find as well as a lot of other things as well.
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RotoGluOn
Please ask K ngP n how to get the 3950x fclk to reach 1900 MHz on x570 without being forced to increased NB/SOC voltages too much (1. 120 V for example. What about increasing the FSB clock like to 101. 5 MHz at 43x multiplier to get about 4360MHz all cores? Why stay at 100Mhz? My 3950x is stable but the auto VCORE voltage is measured at about 1, 4V which leads to about 100 degrees Celsius under Aida64 with a h150 pro CLC. which I believe it's a bit too much. What's your usual/best/go to voltage for OC a 3950x at all cores on good CLC? Does the increase of the FSB frequency also increases the infinity fabric clocks accordingly? (I believe it does but I'm not entirely sure. How much the memory stability can be CPU dependent? (same model ofc) How many CPUs do you test before picking the one you'll get your world records with? Ty, and regards!
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Please ask K ngP n how to get the 3950x fclk to reach 1900 MHz on x570 without being forced to increased NB/SOC voltages too much (1. 120 V for example. What about increasing the FSB clock like to 101. 5 MHz at 43x multiplier to get about 4360MHz all cores? Why stay at 100Mhz? My 3950x is stable but the auto VCORE voltage is measured at about 1, 4V which leads to about 100 degrees Celsius under Aida64 with a h150 pro CLC. which I believe it's a bit too much. What's your usual/best/go to voltage for OC a 3950x at all cores on good CLC? Does the increase of the FSB frequency also increases the infinity fabric clocks accordingly? (I believe it does but I'm not entirely sure. How much the memory stability can be CPU dependent? (same model ofc) How many CPUs do you test before picking the one you'll get your world records with? Ty, and regards!
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Guest
Since it seems that most overclocking sessions end because of moisture issues, could the entire rig be placed inside a high sided container (with the top of the ln2 pot sticking out above the height of the sides) which has a steady flow of co2 (from dry ice) into it. The co2 is heavier than air, so no ambient moisture should be introduced as the air in the room will never settle into the box. Since co2 has no natural liquid state, there should be no moisture. In its gas state, it should warm fairly quickly, so getting the board too cold wouldn't be a concern (and it might even benefit the vrms and chipset. The ln2 vapour might roll down in, but that's not really a problem as it will likely be warmer than the freezing point of co2.
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Since it seems that most overclocking sessions end because of moisture issues, could the entire rig be placed inside a high sided container (with the top of the ln2 pot sticking out above the height of the sides) which has a steady flow of co2 (from dry ice) into it. The co2 is heavier than air, so no ambient moisture should be introduced as the air in the room will never settle into the box. Since co2 has no natural liquid state, there should be no moisture. In its gas state, it should warm fairly quickly, so getting the board too cold wouldn't be a concern (and it might even benefit the vrms and chipset. The ln2 vapour might roll down in, but that's not really a problem as it will likely be warmer than the freezing point of co2.
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Deltree
Question for the pro OC folks: I am extremely interested in overclocking, but lack the funds to provide myself with OC-able PC parts which makes it very challenging to get any real world XP in this field. How can i best spend my time learning about overclocking while having no way to generate hands-on XP? You all had to start somewhere, was there a singular resource which really opened your eyes or provided the biggest leap in understanding outside of your own testing? Thank you GN for the consistent quality of your videos, data, testing methodology, and reporting. O7
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Question for the pro OC folks: I am extremely interested in overclocking, but lack the funds to provide myself with OC-able PC parts which makes it very challenging to get any real world XP in this field. How can i best spend my time learning about overclocking while having no way to generate hands-on XP? You all had to start somewhere, was there a singular resource which really opened your eyes or provided the biggest leap in understanding outside of your own testing? Thank you GN for the consistent quality of your videos, data, testing methodology, and reporting. O7
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The
Question: Specifically for AMD Ryzen processors. What are some tips (Specifically things you can change in bios) to have a more stable overclock? I've only really overclocked Intel processors in the past and everytime i try to do a manual overclock i would get close but the core voltages would never go to the amount i would set. (Ex: Would change core voltages to 1. 37 but after applying, it would revert back to the 1. 4-1. 46 that comes out the box) Also why does the voltages always seem so high on Ryzen chips?
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Question: Specifically for AMD Ryzen processors. What are some tips (Specifically things you can change in bios) to have a more stable overclock? I've only really overclocked Intel processors in the past and everytime i try to do a manual overclock i would get close but the core voltages would never go to the amount i would set. (Ex: Would change core voltages to 1. 37 but after applying, it would revert back to the 1. 4-1. 46 that comes out the box) Also why does the voltages always seem so high on Ryzen chips?
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fturla
I suspect that Intel cut their research budget by well over 50% a decade ago and dropped the progress cadence going from 2 to 4 or more in the last few years. This cost them their technological lead and they won't be competitive for at least two more years. As a consumer, on the bright side, I won't need to even consider any of their product lines until I here news that they have caught up on technology and that the value of buying their products won't give me headaches if I should consider them.
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I suspect that Intel cut their research budget by well over 50% a decade ago and dropped the progress cadence going from 2 to 4 or more in the last few years. This cost them their technological lead and they won't be competitive for at least two more years. As a consumer, on the bright side, I won't need to even consider any of their product lines until I here news that they have caught up on technology and that the value of buying their products won't give me headaches if I should consider them.
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Derek
How to overclock for people who got screwed thinking, Gaming Laptop, and it had intel integrated graphics. So how for new ppl to overclock AMD who has a normal budget of 1300 or so? Not all beginners just spend 600. some just didn't know until we bought a Gaming Laptop, that turned out to be a dual core. A lot of us don't know until it's late. Had I saved that 600 my budget would be 2k. So nvidia 2070 Super with AMD 3700x? Now I am a little nervous on pre build mother boards and how to overclock.
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How to overclock for people who got screwed thinking, Gaming Laptop, and it had intel integrated graphics. So how for new ppl to overclock AMD who has a normal budget of 1300 or so? Not all beginners just spend 600. some just didn't know until we bought a Gaming Laptop, that turned out to be a dual core. A lot of us don't know until it's late. Had I saved that 600 my budget would be 2k. So nvidia 2070 Super with AMD 3700x? Now I am a little nervous on pre build mother boards and how to overclock.
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