HW News - More BS Big Navi Rumors, Intel Memory Encryption vs. Vulnerabilities
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Sam
12: 15 I don't think that's a microATX board. Even if you categorize it as such, there's no way it's a bit longer than usual for your microATX fare Even the smaller MicroATX boards (which are more appropriately flex ATX but I digress) are larger than this (the main difference seems to be the third row of screw holes / 3 PCI slots. The mounting holes are very clearly the same as mini ITX, though it looks to be about It looks like it's one PCI slot longer than your usual mini ITX fare, which would put it slightly smaller than the mini-DTX form factor that ASUS so recently resurrected from the prebuilt (HP) market to the custom PC market. Having the RAM slots at the top is nothing new for mini ITX. My own Asrock X99 ITX has that. It looks like it's _exactly_ 1 PCI slot wider than mini ITX, making it about 191mm long. mini DTX spec is 203mm long, confirming my suspicion that it's a little smaller than mini DTX (looking at mini DTX boards, you will see slightly more space after the PCI slot compared with ITX and this board where it's right at the edge) Researching the current state of mini-DTX boards online, they almost always look a little smaller than spec. I think the angled chipset is pretty normal for DTX-size H61/H81 boards with both biostar and ECS doing it all the way to H110 era. It seems to have died out after H110 This board is definitely a re-spin of the Biostar H61MGV3/H81MHV3 with minor differences (some caps upgraded to solid, different audio, but rear IO from the H61 version. BTW the NIC is from the H81 version of this board. It's much closer to the H81 version than the H61. I did find other new H61 boards in this exact form factor (also called micro ATX ) from random chinese board makers on newegg, one was called Jingsha h61 desktop motherboard Looks to me like those old DFI Lan Party motherboards which has a similar yellow and black color scheme. Some had the RAM at the top like this one.
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12: 15 I don't think that's a microATX board. Even if you categorize it as such, there's no way it's a bit longer than usual for your microATX fare Even the smaller MicroATX boards (which are more appropriately flex ATX but I digress) are larger than this (the main difference seems to be the third row of screw holes / 3 PCI slots. The mounting holes are very clearly the same as mini ITX, though it looks to be about It looks like it's one PCI slot longer than your usual mini ITX fare, which would put it slightly smaller than the mini-DTX form factor that ASUS so recently resurrected from the prebuilt (HP) market to the custom PC market. Having the RAM slots at the top is nothing new for mini ITX. My own Asrock X99 ITX has that. It looks like it's _exactly_ 1 PCI slot wider than mini ITX, making it about 191mm long. mini DTX spec is 203mm long, confirming my suspicion that it's a little smaller than mini DTX (looking at mini DTX boards, you will see slightly more space after the PCI slot compared with ITX and this board where it's right at the edge) Researching the current state of mini-DTX boards online, they almost always look a little smaller than spec. I think the angled chipset is pretty normal for DTX-size H61/H81 boards with both biostar and ECS doing it all the way to H110 era. It seems to have died out after H110 This board is definitely a re-spin of the Biostar H61MGV3/H81MHV3 with minor differences (some caps upgraded to solid, different audio, but rear IO from the H61 version. BTW the NIC is from the H81 version of this board. It's much closer to the H81 version than the H61. I did find other new H61 boards in this exact form factor (also called micro ATX ) from random chinese board makers on newegg, one was called Jingsha h61 desktop motherboard Looks to me like those old DFI Lan Party motherboards which has a similar yellow and black color scheme. Some had the RAM at the top like this one.
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Zarcondeegrissom
SK Hynix did what, that's even better, lol. I didn't know that was where the supposed numbers for the 80cu GPU came from. I had seen it in passing and just assumed it was like the Nvidia DGX Compute node, the kind of stuff no consumer would ever see outside of a supercomputer center, lol. I just assumed it was another VCA refrigerator-sized like-thing that some were misapplying as consumer part or just imaginary fake news. It almost reminded me of the last time Nvidia announced their Tesla stuff at a data-center conference. Nvidia said beforehand multiple times this was for data center and supercomputer stuff, and the media was so desperate for it to be consumer anything instead of what it was clearly going to be, they completely missed the name of the conference they were at (hence the aggravated leather jacket saying no that isn't launching, stop asking questions about stuff we are not here to discuss. It even irritated me, because I wanted to know what IBM and CRAY would have to work with for Supercomputers, not some peasant consumer part that clearly was months away from launching, lol. Launching a consumer Gaming card at a supercomputing conference, would be like going to an Indy Pro 2000 car show to shop for kitchenware, lol. 80cu isn't impossible by itself, it's just the power requirements and cooling requirements of the hypothetical part, put it far outside of anything you could stuff into a PC. lol.
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SK Hynix did what, that's even better, lol. I didn't know that was where the supposed numbers for the 80cu GPU came from. I had seen it in passing and just assumed it was like the Nvidia DGX Compute node, the kind of stuff no consumer would ever see outside of a supercomputer center, lol. I just assumed it was another VCA refrigerator-sized like-thing that some were misapplying as consumer part or just imaginary fake news. It almost reminded me of the last time Nvidia announced their Tesla stuff at a data-center conference. Nvidia said beforehand multiple times this was for data center and supercomputer stuff, and the media was so desperate for it to be consumer anything instead of what it was clearly going to be, they completely missed the name of the conference they were at (hence the aggravated leather jacket saying no that isn't launching, stop asking questions about stuff we are not here to discuss. It even irritated me, because I wanted to know what IBM and CRAY would have to work with for Supercomputers, not some peasant consumer part that clearly was months away from launching, lol. Launching a consumer Gaming card at a supercomputing conference, would be like going to an Indy Pro 2000 car show to shop for kitchenware, lol. 80cu isn't impossible by itself, it's just the power requirements and cooling requirements of the hypothetical part, put it far outside of anything you could stuff into a PC. lol.
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John
I live in Perth, Western Australia which is located on the West coast of Australia. The large bush fires that have plagued this country recently and broadcast worldwide were mainly located in New South Wales. I am hoping that your efforts are focused here. Bush fires have also occurred in the state in which I live and also Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania but to a much lesser degree. NSW needs your help. Three American firefighters also died helping when the aircraft they were flying crashed. Hundreds of firefighters from New Zealand and unaffected states came to help. Enormous tracts of land were destroyed. Thousands of Koalas, Kangaroos and many other wildlife perished. I have never seen such devastation caused by bushfires in my lifetime. Thank you for your help and generosity.
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I live in Perth, Western Australia which is located on the West coast of Australia. The large bush fires that have plagued this country recently and broadcast worldwide were mainly located in New South Wales. I am hoping that your efforts are focused here. Bush fires have also occurred in the state in which I live and also Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania but to a much lesser degree. NSW needs your help. Three American firefighters also died helping when the aircraft they were flying crashed. Hundreds of firefighters from New Zealand and unaffected states came to help. Enormous tracts of land were destroyed. Thousands of Koalas, Kangaroos and many other wildlife perished. I have never seen such devastation caused by bushfires in my lifetime. Thank you for your help and generosity.
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Manjushri
You guys may be interested to know that i had issue with black screen signal loss on my 5700 xt since i got it in July and the newest patch (20. 2. 2) plus disabling Enhanced Sync (which is a feature i paid for) finally fixed it. It was the worst of the tons of issues i have had off and on with the card since I got it. Just fyi. Honestly now i swear animatuon is SMOOTHER at lower framerats too, strangely enough. I have had FreeSync disabled because of flickering and the fact it never seem to do much, but maybe now it will help my 144hz VA have less ghosting with 60hz games.
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You guys may be interested to know that i had issue with black screen signal loss on my 5700 xt since i got it in July and the newest patch (20. 2. 2) plus disabling Enhanced Sync (which is a feature i paid for) finally fixed it. It was the worst of the tons of issues i have had off and on with the card since I got it. Just fyi. Honestly now i swear animatuon is SMOOTHER at lower framerats too, strangely enough. I have had FreeSync disabled because of flickering and the fact it never seem to do much, but maybe now it will help my 144hz VA have less ghosting with 60hz games.
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Mark
LMAO. I am almost 61 and it is freakin hilarious that we have Human Malware and we can not talk about it openly. I will say this, be very careful of controlled speech, History shows us many many times that it never ends well. Now we may not agree on many issues but we need to be able to have open and decent conversations about everything or if you think that is incorrect imagine this. You can only talk about one GPU and you are only allowed to say good things because those are the rules or you get penalized heavily and the way things are going that is not far off.
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LMAO. I am almost 61 and it is freakin hilarious that we have Human Malware and we can not talk about it openly. I will say this, be very careful of controlled speech, History shows us many many times that it never ends well. Now we may not agree on many issues but we need to be able to have open and decent conversations about everything or if you think that is incorrect imagine this. You can only talk about one GPU and you are only allowed to say good things because those are the rules or you get penalized heavily and the way things are going that is not far off.
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BlackOpsHR
Remember this comment, AMD will release a cut down 16 TFlop navi card in Q3 followed by Nvidia topping it with a Titan. After that AMD will release the true Big Navi card that tops the titan by a small margin at around 20 TFlops, 90CUs and at around 300-350W. This is an almost guaranteed scenario knowing what we know about the next gen consoles. This will be the first time in a long time AMD will top Nvidia in performance. I have no doubt Nvidia will top them not long after, but it will be refreshing to see some competition again.
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Remember this comment, AMD will release a cut down 16 TFlop navi card in Q3 followed by Nvidia topping it with a Titan. After that AMD will release the true Big Navi card that tops the titan by a small margin at around 20 TFlops, 90CUs and at around 300-350W. This is an almost guaranteed scenario knowing what we know about the next gen consoles. This will be the first time in a long time AMD will top Nvidia in performance. I have no doubt Nvidia will top them not long after, but it will be refreshing to see some competition again.
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Tcll5850
I don't think NVMe will ever replace RAM there are numerous exceptional use cases for temporary storage such as cache, program execution, and swap all of which are EXTREMELY bad for use on NAND unless consumer MRAM becomes a thing, I don't see DIMM disappearing any time soon as a side note, I refuse to use NAND for internal storage due to it's extremely poor quality even if it's a 1TB SLC SSD, I still refuse to use it, because I highly doubt I'll ever get as much use out of it as a Quantum Fireball.
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I don't think NVMe will ever replace RAM there are numerous exceptional use cases for temporary storage such as cache, program execution, and swap all of which are EXTREMELY bad for use on NAND unless consumer MRAM becomes a thing, I don't see DIMM disappearing any time soon as a side note, I refuse to use NAND for internal storage due to it's extremely poor quality even if it's a 1TB SLC SSD, I still refuse to use it, because I highly doubt I'll ever get as much use out of it as a Quantum Fireball.
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mapesdhs
16: 50 - Ah yes, it doesn't exist if one cannot talk about it. :D Ironic that the country responsible for the outbreak is the one pulling the game, doubly so that the CCP's censorship helped it spread and now this far into the crisis their response is yet more censorship. I wish the Chinese people all the best, but I hope the CCP burns, they and their cancerous ideology are responsible for yet more human death. I guess their killing half a billion humans already in the last century wasn't enough.
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16: 50 - Ah yes, it doesn't exist if one cannot talk about it. :D Ironic that the country responsible for the outbreak is the one pulling the game, doubly so that the CCP's censorship helped it spread and now this far into the crisis their response is yet more censorship. I wish the Chinese people all the best, but I hope the CCP burns, they and their cancerous ideology are responsible for yet more human death. I guess their killing half a billion humans already in the last century wasn't enough.
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shane
G'day Steve, I had to pause the video after the update on the Australian Wildlife Charity drive as I was feeling pretty emotional, the total 18, 935USD for the 2 charities becomes 28, 402AUD when converted, plus all the extra personal donations from viewers, that is truly Awesome, I'm also very excited my Shirt is on the way P. s. Biostar's Idea of Re-Releasing old Intel Chipset Motherboards may be good for the Australian Market as I was watching a Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3R & it just sold for 129. 50AUD
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G'day Steve, I had to pause the video after the update on the Australian Wildlife Charity drive as I was feeling pretty emotional, the total 18, 935USD for the 2 charities becomes 28, 402AUD when converted, plus all the extra personal donations from viewers, that is truly Awesome, I'm also very excited my Shirt is on the way P. s. Biostar's Idea of Re-Releasing old Intel Chipset Motherboards may be good for the Australian Market as I was watching a Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3R & it just sold for 129. 50AUD
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QUINTIX256
SK Hynix waaaaay overreacted by naming and shaming a twitter handle with not all that big a following, who probably gained traction by being RT by someone who is rather credible and has been on top of Radeon news and rumors, and threatening legal action. So I smell BS on their claim of BS. Edit: in regard to more ram equals better quip, I suspect nVidia has forced AMD into a corner by refusing to make any consumer HBM cards and thus killing off the low density HBM market.
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SK Hynix waaaaay overreacted by naming and shaming a twitter handle with not all that big a following, who probably gained traction by being RT by someone who is rather credible and has been on top of Radeon news and rumors, and threatening legal action. So I smell BS on their claim of BS. Edit: in regard to more ram equals better quip, I suspect nVidia has forced AMD into a corner by refusing to make any consumer HBM cards and thus killing off the low density HBM market.
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