Amazon Made A CPU Cooler: Amazon Basics Cooler Review
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Date: 2023-04-05
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sam
Idk if you do this already, but I have a suggestion to make your testing even more consistent between CPU's. For the same size of a CPU, aka AM5 or LGA 1700, use the same amount of thermal paste. So for AM5, let's say use 0.3 mL (I'm just making up numbers here, not trying to be specific) of paste or liquid metal for each CPU you test. For LGA 1700, since it's alil larger, use 0.4 mL or something between all of them. It might be easier to do that kind of measuring with liquid metal, but it may be OK to use paste. Either that or use the same sized phase change pad for each CPU, that might make it even easier even though it won't be as effective.
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Idk if you do this already, but I have a suggestion to make your testing even more consistent between CPU's. For the same size of a CPU, aka AM5 or LGA 1700, use the same amount of thermal paste. So for AM5, let's say use 0.3 mL (I'm just making up numbers here, not trying to be specific) of paste or liquid metal for each CPU you test. For LGA 1700, since it's alil larger, use 0.4 mL or something between all of them. It might be easier to do that kind of measuring with liquid metal, but it may be OK to use paste. Either that or use the same sized phase change pad for each CPU, that might make it even easier even though it won't be as effective.
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Javaguru
Is higher flatness always better? Wouldn't a slightly convex cooler flatten out under mounting pressure and a flat cooler become slightly concave (thus giving poor center contact)? Or, does CPUs being slightly convex mean that flat is better?
You may have covered this at some point but it's a major concern for me so I'd like it if you talked about it more.
Edit to add: I think it'd be an interesting line of testing to compare the thermal transfer of cold plates made to have various surface curvatures but otherwise identical. Maybe you could work with DerBauer on that one!
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Is higher flatness always better? Wouldn't a slightly convex cooler flatten out under mounting pressure and a flat cooler become slightly concave (thus giving poor center contact)? Or, does CPUs being slightly convex mean that flat is better?
You may have covered this at some point but it's a major concern for me so I'd like it if you talked about it more.
Edit to add: I think it'd be an interesting line of testing to compare the thermal transfer of cold plates made to have various surface curvatures but otherwise identical. Maybe you could work with DerBauer on that one!
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802
I do not believe the Assassin Spirit and Assassin X are essentially the same product. The X may have replaced the Spirit, but it is not a simple rename. Not only is the top of the fin stack different, but the heat pipe spacing through the fins is different, and the X appears to have around 45 fins while the Spirit has just over 50. The X is also 46mm wide while the Spirit is 48mm wide according to the Thermalright website. Performance will likely be similar, of course, but I know you like to be very technically correct.
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I do not believe the Assassin Spirit and Assassin X are essentially the same product. The X may have replaced the Spirit, but it is not a simple rename. Not only is the top of the fin stack different, but the heat pipe spacing through the fins is different, and the X appears to have around 45 fins while the Spirit has just over 50. The X is also 46mm wide while the Spirit is 48mm wide according to the Thermalright website. Performance will likely be similar, of course, but I know you like to be very technically correct.
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Benjamin
I think where this cooler fits is stock cooler replacement in narrow width cases like HP Envy/Omen 15L/25L types where a 120mm tower cooler will not fit. The competition on fitment with tower coolers start at 7 more expensive and goes up drastically from there. If the contact and pressure on the mount was sorted this would be a very recommendable product for those smaller cases, even with those issues the temperatures seemed to be pretty decent when not overloading it's TDP rating by 23% or more.
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I think where this cooler fits is stock cooler replacement in narrow width cases like HP Envy/Omen 15L/25L types where a 120mm tower cooler will not fit. The competition on fitment with tower coolers start at 7 more expensive and goes up drastically from there. If the contact and pressure on the mount was sorted this would be a very recommendable product for those smaller cases, even with those issues the temperatures seemed to be pretty decent when not overloading it's TDP rating by 23% or more.
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Amanitaceae
I've been running the H410R on a Ryzen 3600 for years and been surprised and impressed at how cool and quiet it runs even in an Australian summer. It always amazed me at how many people on Reddit at the time were essentially considering you an idiot if you didn't spend 70+ on a cooler for that CPU. Like AMD shipped it with a wraith stealth, it really doesn't take much to do better than that. People in our hobby often seem to struggle with the concept of good enough .
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I've been running the H410R on a Ryzen 3600 for years and been surprised and impressed at how cool and quiet it runs even in an Australian summer. It always amazed me at how many people on Reddit at the time were essentially considering you an idiot if you didn't spend 70+ on a cooler for that CPU. Like AMD shipped it with a wraith stealth, it really doesn't take much to do better than that. People in our hobby often seem to struggle with the concept of good enough .
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shane
G'day Steve & Mike,
posting at 0:32 I am going with rebranded Cooler Master , 1:53 there is also a 411R
I didn't even need to look it up as at the moment Scorptec have the original CoolerMasters 411R on sale for 29AUD which is cheaper than most 2 & 3 heat pipe tower so I grabbed a couple to upgrade some i7-3770 gaming PCs I service for friends still using intel stock coolers, they do a better Cooling & Quiet job than the intel cooler
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G'day Steve & Mike,
posting at 0:32 I am going with rebranded Cooler Master , 1:53 there is also a 411R
I didn't even need to look it up as at the moment Scorptec have the original CoolerMasters 411R on sale for 29AUD which is cheaper than most 2 & 3 heat pipe tower so I grabbed a couple to upgrade some i7-3770 gaming PCs I service for friends still using intel stock coolers, they do a better Cooling & Quiet job than the intel cooler
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Gofr5
Personally, I'd rather pay the little bit extra for a decent twin tower cooler. Unless you just have some nice RGB RAM to show off or just tall RAM in general, I wouldn't really bother with a single tower cooler if it could be helped. For not much more money, the AK620 and Peerless Assassin just offer so much more cooling, to the point that they make liquid coolers smaller than 360mm pretty much obsolete.
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Personally, I'd rather pay the little bit extra for a decent twin tower cooler. Unless you just have some nice RGB RAM to show off or just tall RAM in general, I wouldn't really bother with a single tower cooler if it could be helped. For not much more money, the AK620 and Peerless Assassin just offer so much more cooling, to the point that they make liquid coolers smaller than 360mm pretty much obsolete.
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Happy
TBF, I don't really care if my name is one of those automated B&W stickers on a blank box, I don't need flashy stuff... I'm after a product that works, not one that just has more money in marketing.
I do hope this deal goes well for the both of them because I want cheap coolers that are built reliably without the worry of someone stealing my flashy box.
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TBF, I don't really care if my name is one of those automated B&W stickers on a blank box, I don't need flashy stuff... I'm after a product that works, not one that just has more money in marketing.
I do hope this deal goes well for the both of them because I want cheap coolers that are built reliably without the worry of someone stealing my flashy box.
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Davethreshold
I'm thinking if somebody bought this, can't return it, then saw this video: Take a sheet of wet/dry sandpaper, maybe 180 grit, and tape it down to a VERY flat surface. Carefully hold the tower and run it back and forth on the sandpaper. Both copper and aluminum will sand down easily. You might be able to flatten this out perfectly!
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I'm thinking if somebody bought this, can't return it, then saw this video: Take a sheet of wet/dry sandpaper, maybe 180 grit, and tape it down to a VERY flat surface. Carefully hold the tower and run it back and forth on the sandpaper. Both copper and aluminum will sand down easily. You might be able to flatten this out perfectly!
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Alien
I knew it'd be unimpressive out of the box, but I was expecting you to perform a basic lapping, that anyone could do at home after purchasing it (with a fine, wet piece of sandpaper on top of a glass plate) and test after that too. The delta between out of the box and lapped would've been the most interesting aspect to see in such a video.
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I knew it'd be unimpressive out of the box, but I was expecting you to perform a basic lapping, that anyone could do at home after purchasing it (with a fine, wet piece of sandpaper on top of a glass plate) and test after that too. The delta between out of the box and lapped would've been the most interesting aspect to see in such a video.
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Mariner1712
I honestly don't see the value in the Wraith Prism particularly as a value add, at least in my case where the fan ramped up and down constantly, despite the mother board having zero changes to fan curve that I ended up buying a nox just to ensure that I wouldn't have to deal with that. Absolutely awful.
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I honestly don't see the value in the Wraith Prism particularly as a value add, at least in my case where the fan ramped up and down constantly, despite the mother board having zero changes to fan curve that I ended up buying a nox just to ensure that I wouldn't have to deal with that. Absolutely awful.
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Varmint260
I inadvertently started humming Take on Me when Mike flubbed with take on... uh, put on and take off and I have no regrets.
Now, the inflation scares me considering I bought a Hyper 212 ten years ago for 20 Canadian maplebucks and its little brother rebranded as basic is 28 US buckaroos today.
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I inadvertently started humming Take on Me when Mike flubbed with take on... uh, put on and take off and I have no regrets.
Now, the inflation scares me considering I bought a Hyper 212 ten years ago for 20 Canadian maplebucks and its little brother rebranded as basic is 28 US buckaroos today.
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fatih
Save more money and buy a Noctua NH D15 if it fits your case. It's definitely worth it. By far the easiest computer part recommendation I can make to be honest. You can keep using it on any system even after 10 years and having a really high capacity tower cooler that's silent is always a good idea.
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Save more money and buy a Noctua NH D15 if it fits your case. It's definitely worth it. By far the easiest computer part recommendation I can make to be honest. You can keep using it on any system even after 10 years and having a really high capacity tower cooler that's silent is always a good idea.
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Shun
Ive had a super noisy intel extreme tower cooler for years it kinda looks like it. Also Ive been wondering what your opinion be on the Juishark JF 13K Diamond thats basically 2 AMD Waith coolers fused together. Its one of those quirky designs that makes me wonder if they ever though that RAM existed.
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Ive had a super noisy intel extreme tower cooler for years it kinda looks like it. Also Ive been wondering what your opinion be on the Juishark JF 13K Diamond thats basically 2 AMD Waith coolers fused together. Its one of those quirky designs that makes me wonder if they ever though that RAM existed.
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Iron
My gawd... the striations on the cooler plate is redonkulous... I've seen tree stumps with less grain! That thing doesn't so much need lapping, other than a 50 grit sander belt... Thats a thought, wonder if you can bodge bezos's basic cooler into a better one... FIRE UP THE ORBITAL SANDER LADS!!!!
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My gawd... the striations on the cooler plate is redonkulous... I've seen tree stumps with less grain! That thing doesn't so much need lapping, other than a 50 grit sander belt... Thats a thought, wonder if you can bodge bezos's basic cooler into a better one... FIRE UP THE ORBITAL SANDER LADS!!!!
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