HW News - RIPLTT Plans, F H Faster Than 7 Supercomputers, Motherboard Sales Fall 30%
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Ed
In my experience over the past weeks, I have noticed the prices augment significantly and behave erratically (Western Europe. I was planning and researching for my first build (that's how I found Gamers Nexus) so I was looking at these prices almost every day. Then human malware happened. I have continued to observe the prices and the most significant one I have seen has been the RTX 2060 specifically the MSI Gaming Z model. I remember it was under 380 and then it changed to over 460 with a 6 difference from the 2060 SUPER Gaming X (I saw that this morning. Now I went back and checked before posting this comment and the 2060 SUPER Gaming X is now 515 and the Gaming Z is 483. I also saw the Ryzen 5 3600 augment from 177 to 188 and the B450 Tomahawk Max is around 150 or out stock if cheaper whereas before it was around the 120. I have been researching to see if I am the only one noticing this, but so far no one has confirmed if there is something actually happening or if it's just a coincidence. I've read that PC parts' prices are increasing independent of human malware, but this quick! Needless to say, that build seems not to be happening anytime soon.
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In my experience over the past weeks, I have noticed the prices augment significantly and behave erratically (Western Europe. I was planning and researching for my first build (that's how I found Gamers Nexus) so I was looking at these prices almost every day. Then human malware happened. I have continued to observe the prices and the most significant one I have seen has been the RTX 2060 specifically the MSI Gaming Z model. I remember it was under 380 and then it changed to over 460 with a 6 difference from the 2060 SUPER Gaming X (I saw that this morning. Now I went back and checked before posting this comment and the 2060 SUPER Gaming X is now 515 and the Gaming Z is 483. I also saw the Ryzen 5 3600 augment from 177 to 188 and the B450 Tomahawk Max is around 150 or out stock if cheaper whereas before it was around the 120. I have been researching to see if I am the only one noticing this, but so far no one has confirmed if there is something actually happening or if it's just a coincidence. I've read that PC parts' prices are increasing independent of human malware, but this quick! Needless to say, that build seems not to be happening anytime soon.
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Adam
You should do a straight water cooled setup for the RIP build! It may not be super exciting or nab the highest points per day at peak, but I think the most important aspect is the sustained performance -- it should be able to keep crunching WUs and keep contributing at a stable rate over as long of a period as needed until a target site for treatment is found in this particularly nasty strain of human malware. The build just straight up can't contribute as much if it's reliant on exotic cooling that's temporary like LN2 or even high-maintenance like an ice bucket rig. Maybe something like a thick radiator with some high performance fans strapped directly over an AC vent would help it have some slightly-below-ambient cooling that would keep the OCs more aggressive than a regular ambient temp setup, but would still be capable of running for that sustained period.
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You should do a straight water cooled setup for the RIP build! It may not be super exciting or nab the highest points per day at peak, but I think the most important aspect is the sustained performance -- it should be able to keep crunching WUs and keep contributing at a stable rate over as long of a period as needed until a target site for treatment is found in this particularly nasty strain of human malware. The build just straight up can't contribute as much if it's reliant on exotic cooling that's temporary like LN2 or even high-maintenance like an ice bucket rig. Maybe something like a thick radiator with some high performance fans strapped directly over an AC vent would help it have some slightly-below-ambient cooling that would keep the OCs more aggressive than a regular ambient temp setup, but would still be capable of running for that sustained period.
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Trogdor8freebird
It's not entirely silly for Sony and Microsoft to push the SSD so hard even towards PC gamers since the games will be made for SSDs and (especially Sony's) they'll have insane bandwidth. This'll likely be different from PC gaming as there's still plenty of games that don't utilize I/O throughput that well and it may even change how PC gaming exists since everything related to I/O (not just loading) will be kept in mind when developing games and may require far greater storage speeds for games just to be playable. I get that you're more PC oriented but I think it's underestimating this change by saying it seems like a silly push for anyone who's a PC gamer just because- lul better loading in most games, we already knew that
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It's not entirely silly for Sony and Microsoft to push the SSD so hard even towards PC gamers since the games will be made for SSDs and (especially Sony's) they'll have insane bandwidth. This'll likely be different from PC gaming as there's still plenty of games that don't utilize I/O throughput that well and it may even change how PC gaming exists since everything related to I/O (not just loading) will be kept in mind when developing games and may require far greater storage speeds for games just to be playable. I get that you're more PC oriented but I think it's underestimating this change by saying it seems like a silly push for anyone who's a PC gamer just because- lul better loading in most games, we already knew that
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Guest
GNSteve FAH points by username can be more than 1 machine, if you want to displant one person's score, in 24 hours, simply bring more machines with the same username online at the same time. For fun sure try to get the work unit done as fast as you can, but most finish in about an hour or less depending on the work unit and the cpu. Suggest trying out that 4000 64 core 128 thread AMD threadripper or a bunch of Nvidia compute cards to crank out as many work units as you can. Even still, the fah group has more doners than they have work they need done at this time, as evident by the lack of work units, and server strain. But they are working on expanding their server capacity and speed of the research work units.
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GNSteve FAH points by username can be more than 1 machine, if you want to displant one person's score, in 24 hours, simply bring more machines with the same username online at the same time. For fun sure try to get the work unit done as fast as you can, but most finish in about an hour or less depending on the work unit and the cpu. Suggest trying out that 4000 64 core 128 thread AMD threadripper or a bunch of Nvidia compute cards to crank out as many work units as you can. Even still, the fah group has more doners than they have work they need done at this time, as evident by the lack of work units, and server strain. But they are working on expanding their server capacity and speed of the research work units.
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William
What is the problem with saying the name of the virus You Tube as other online media sources are using it and every one should know the name by now since it has be used TV and other media sources. I know you think your protecting people from the name on You Tube but people need to know what is going on with it as I see other people saying it is just the Flu but it is not. Sorry I'm a product of the 1960's when times were different but stay the same from what I see some people lack common sense.
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What is the problem with saying the name of the virus You Tube as other online media sources are using it and every one should know the name by now since it has be used TV and other media sources. I know you think your protecting people from the name on You Tube but people need to know what is going on with it as I see other people saying it is just the Flu but it is not. Sorry I'm a product of the 1960's when times were different but stay the same from what I see some people lack common sense.
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John
Don t tell any Sony fans that a lot of the hype around their SSD is marketing. It s going to change the landscape of gaming. I see lots of people saying how the presentation was for developers. Like Sony didn t know after announcing it publicly that millions of fans/gamers would be tuning in for the first bit of real PS5 info. SSDs are great and will be a welcomed upgrade from last gen but most of those people are clueless as to the relationship between storage, RAM, CPU, and GPU.
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Don t tell any Sony fans that a lot of the hype around their SSD is marketing. It s going to change the landscape of gaming. I see lots of people saying how the presentation was for developers. Like Sony didn t know after announcing it publicly that millions of fans/gamers would be tuning in for the first bit of real PS5 info. SSDs are great and will be a welcomed upgrade from last gen but most of those people are clueless as to the relationship between storage, RAM, CPU, and GPU.
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Drgnaiaka
Would you just say the term Covid19 and instead the Human Malware joke term you are using. We are far beyond this outbreak being some cute joke now. Really enjoy and appreciate your hard work and otherwise professionalism on your reporting and videos, but putting your tail between your legs for the fear of the extremely slim chance of a video being demonetized over the name of a serious outbreak is kinda silly at this point. At the very least you're raising awareness.
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Would you just say the term Covid19 and instead the Human Malware joke term you are using. We are far beyond this outbreak being some cute joke now. Really enjoy and appreciate your hard work and otherwise professionalism on your reporting and videos, but putting your tail between your legs for the fear of the extremely slim chance of a video being demonetized over the name of a serious outbreak is kinda silly at this point. At the very least you're raising awareness.
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FastBowtie388
Pay no attention to the frequency Microsoft and Sony release. It's not uncommon for consoles to be detuned with initial firmware. The ps3, ps4, xbox 360, and xbone were all declocked about 10% or more on launch. As hardware profiles, better efficiency and other factors become more profiled they have been opening up more power. Remember when Microsoft ditched DRM, and kinect mandatory features? They found almost 10% more usage for running games.
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Pay no attention to the frequency Microsoft and Sony release. It's not uncommon for consoles to be detuned with initial firmware. The ps3, ps4, xbox 360, and xbone were all declocked about 10% or more on launch. As hardware profiles, better efficiency and other factors become more profiled they have been opening up more power. Remember when Microsoft ditched DRM, and kinect mandatory features? They found almost 10% more usage for running games.
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John
Little hands on with either, but as I understand it, Folding home leverages GPUs. if you want to use your CPU, use Boinc, which leverages CPU instead. As with all things UnRaid, SpaceInvaderOne has a good video on installing a docker container in your server to use either. Boinc seems to be the best option for my server to use, since it has 12 idle cores to melt, but only a PCI 640x480 VGA video card.
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Little hands on with either, but as I understand it, Folding home leverages GPUs. if you want to use your CPU, use Boinc, which leverages CPU instead. As with all things UnRaid, SpaceInvaderOne has a good video on installing a docker container in your server to use either. Boinc seems to be the best option for my server to use, since it has 12 idle cores to melt, but only a PCI 640x480 VGA video card.
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Hisham
Already with PCMR team. We are working and keeping our pcs working for this. Steve you are missing the point as the folding jobs needs atleast 1 to 2 hours to finish with a modern hardware. i don't think you will benefit from overclocking much compared to doing it for longer time Update: folding is very sensitive to overclocking. beware guys if you want to help DO NOT OVERCLOCK ESPACIALLY GPUS
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Already with PCMR team. We are working and keeping our pcs working for this. Steve you are missing the point as the folding jobs needs atleast 1 to 2 hours to finish with a modern hardware. i don't think you will benefit from overclocking much compared to doing it for longer time Update: folding is very sensitive to overclocking. beware guys if you want to help DO NOT OVERCLOCK ESPACIALLY GPUS
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