HW News - AMD BIOS Issues, 7600 XT vs. 4060 Ti Rumors, Direct Die Fire Extinguisher
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Date: 2023-05-04
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DUSTIN
Couldn't AMD just partner with Steam to send up the update your bios we dun goofed notice out to Steam users if Steam reads your hardware parts as AMD and this series of cpus under CPU brand. Yeah the motherboards are an issue too but at the very least we know Steam can tell exactly what CPU we have. Steam, the program, knows our parts through System Information. The program even detects this particular computer's manufacturer and model like Windows does. Clearly most people who have a high end gaming PC will use Steam at some point. I use for the chat a lot of the time even I'm playing something not bought on steam. Even they don't detect your system, they could send the message to everyone via the special offers pop up. And if you do that, maybe word of mouth gets out. There's only so many PC gaming store fronts to use so contacting all of them would guarantee to get the word out.
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Couldn't AMD just partner with Steam to send up the update your bios we dun goofed notice out to Steam users if Steam reads your hardware parts as AMD and this series of cpus under CPU brand. Yeah the motherboards are an issue too but at the very least we know Steam can tell exactly what CPU we have. Steam, the program, knows our parts through System Information. The program even detects this particular computer's manufacturer and model like Windows does. Clearly most people who have a high end gaming PC will use Steam at some point. I use for the chat a lot of the time even I'm playing something not bought on steam. Even they don't detect your system, they could send the message to everyone via the special offers pop up. And if you do that, maybe word of mouth gets out. There's only so many PC gaming store fronts to use so contacting all of them would guarantee to get the word out.
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Vladimir
Interestingly, asus has newer 1413 bios with fix for 1.3v for x3d cpus. not clear which voltage they are talking about (soc, vdd, vid). Also they have 1414beta with fsame fix for all 7000 ryzens.
Checked my 7700 (non-X) on older 0809 bios and with EXPO enabled said SOC voltage is 1.25V and not moving at all. Don t think I am going to update the BIOS right now, as seems like those newer bioses were made with asses on fire, so there could be more problems. Better to wait a bit when all dust settles and newer thoroughly tested bios is ready
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Interestingly, asus has newer 1413 bios with fix for 1.3v for x3d cpus. not clear which voltage they are talking about (soc, vdd, vid). Also they have 1414beta with fsame fix for all 7000 ryzens.
Checked my 7700 (non-X) on older 0809 bios and with EXPO enabled said SOC voltage is 1.25V and not moving at all. Don t think I am going to update the BIOS right now, as seems like those newer bioses were made with asses on fire, so there could be more problems. Better to wait a bit when all dust settles and newer thoroughly tested bios is ready
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Prince
the only card from nvidia at the 200dollar price point will be the 50 class card and they make it launch just before the next generational leap when everybody will be looking at the 5000 series. the lower end nvidia cards will also be purposely crippled by giving them not enough VRam. this situation is made and wanted by nvidia and AMD is starting to adapt to it aswell. the prices Jensen promised at the 30series launch will never become reality. The early adopter tax from the first RTX-generation(20series) is going to stay.
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the only card from nvidia at the 200dollar price point will be the 50 class card and they make it launch just before the next generational leap when everybody will be looking at the 5000 series. the lower end nvidia cards will also be purposely crippled by giving them not enough VRam. this situation is made and wanted by nvidia and AMD is starting to adapt to it aswell. the prices Jensen promised at the 30series launch will never become reality. The early adopter tax from the first RTX-generation(20series) is going to stay.
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Corn
True 'entry-level' cards, aka '60-class' cards with 128-bit bus really _should_ be no more than 150 - 200. Steve gets it. But whenever I say this to every other normie out there, they rage at me exclaiming that, 1) '60-class' cards are not entry level; they are mid-range! , and 2) That I am on crack because they should be no cheaper than 250 - 350.
I suppose this type of thinking only comes from generations of incremental conditioning of the people.
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True 'entry-level' cards, aka '60-class' cards with 128-bit bus really _should_ be no more than 150 - 200. Steve gets it. But whenever I say this to every other normie out there, they rage at me exclaiming that, 1) '60-class' cards are not entry level; they are mid-range! , and 2) That I am on crack because they should be no cheaper than 250 - 350.
I suppose this type of thinking only comes from generations of incremental conditioning of the people.
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Joseph
Nahh Steve, if you showed the books, WotC would certainly not sue you. They'd deploy the Pinkertons, like any sensible megacorporate toy company. Because nothing says child friendly like armed security agents best known for union- and strike-busting. With machine guns.
Apparently they tried to go after Rockstar for Red Dead's depiction of them, but um it's not defamation if you can prove they behaved that way.
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Nahh Steve, if you showed the books, WotC would certainly not sue you. They'd deploy the Pinkertons, like any sensible megacorporate toy company. Because nothing says child friendly like armed security agents best known for union- and strike-busting. With machine guns.
Apparently they tried to go after Rockstar for Red Dead's depiction of them, but um it's not defamation if you can prove they behaved that way.
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zdspider
11:44 Yeah, mid range . What a crock of shit. Selling them at what _high-end_ used to be just 3 generations ago.
12:35 Historically, the 200-250 has always been the sweet spot for graphics cards. You would think that with more experience (they've been making them for, what, 30 YEARS?), you'd think they would cost 50-100 at this point, with competition and stuff. What the hell is going on?
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11:44 Yeah, mid range . What a crock of shit. Selling them at what _high-end_ used to be just 3 generations ago.
12:35 Historically, the 200-250 has always been the sweet spot for graphics cards. You would think that with more experience (they've been making them for, what, 30 YEARS?), you'd think they would cost 50-100 at this point, with competition and stuff. What the hell is going on?
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Keith
Whenever I do a new PC build for myself, the first thing I do after I get it to boot correctly is a BIOS update because I just assume that the motherboard was sitting in the box for a long time and a BIOS update will help with CPU and RAM stability. Personally, I'm shocked to hear that there are people who never update their new motherboard out of the box.
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Whenever I do a new PC build for myself, the first thing I do after I get it to boot correctly is a BIOS update because I just assume that the motherboard was sitting in the box for a long time and a BIOS update will help with CPU and RAM stability. Personally, I'm shocked to hear that there are people who never update their new motherboard out of the box.
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ArtistaFrustrado
- thanks for reminding me to see if the PC store can do the bios update whenever i buy my next motherboard
- ah yes nothing says Cheap like pricing one component as high as a whole Console that uses said component
- plugged out did they asked xQc to write that?
- also that DnD rant was fantastic & I'm glad to support even more of those
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- thanks for reminding me to see if the PC store can do the bios update whenever i buy my next motherboard
- ah yes nothing says Cheap like pricing one component as high as a whole Console that uses said component
- plugged out did they asked xQc to write that?
- also that DnD rant was fantastic & I'm glad to support even more of those
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Kelvin
What is the procedure for buying a new CPU/Mobo combo regarding updating BIOS? Is there any risk if I plug in my AMD processor (7xxx Series) with the old BIOS that was included on the board? Am I risking damage to the CPU just updating the BIOS. I am thinking getting BIOS on USB and using boards update before even installing OS.
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What is the procedure for buying a new CPU/Mobo combo regarding updating BIOS? Is there any risk if I plug in my AMD processor (7xxx Series) with the old BIOS that was included on the board? Am I risking damage to the CPU just updating the BIOS. I am thinking getting BIOS on USB and using boards update before even installing OS.
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Jarod
I got extremely lucky with my 7800X3D. The first thing I did was update to BIOS 1004 on my ROG Crosshair Hero (a now pulled BIOS) and immediately hit BIOS after first successful boot to set Buildzoid's memory timings... with a 1.25v on SOC.
This burning drama hadn't happened yet, I just wanted great RAM performance.
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I got extremely lucky with my 7800X3D. The first thing I did was update to BIOS 1004 on my ROG Crosshair Hero (a now pulled BIOS) and immediately hit BIOS after first successful boot to set Buildzoid's memory timings... with a 1.25v on SOC.
This burning drama hadn't happened yet, I just wanted great RAM performance.
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Gunther
I stay with AM4, because I had a gut feeling the AM5 was too early, with all the problems, I've seen it on my work too, where products were pushed and a lot of devices came back. AM5 is totally new and problems are normal, they use in fact consumers as beta testers. And that is the upside down situation.
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I stay with AM4, because I had a gut feeling the AM5 was too early, with all the problems, I've seen it on my work too, where products were pushed and a lot of devices came back. AM5 is totally new and problems are normal, they use in fact consumers as beta testers. And that is the upside down situation.
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Talrassi
I hate seeing that people are having issues with their builds, But so glad Steve and crew are covering these issues since I was planning to buy this CPU for my first time self build PC next weekend. Was looking at the 7900x instead of the 7800x3d now; just hope I don't have any issues with that one!
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I hate seeing that people are having issues with their builds, But so glad Steve and crew are covering these issues since I was planning to buy this CPU for my first time self build PC next weekend. Was looking at the 7900x instead of the 7800x3d now; just hope I don't have any issues with that one!
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HAL-9000
7600XT 7950XT and 7950XTX is coming also (leaked at AMD's open sourced ROCm) now taken down. These will most likely be either announced or teased at computex in late May and early June. Also it is rumored we might finally get an FSR 3.0 announcement at the show. PS: Gamers Nexus for the win!
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7600XT 7950XT and 7950XTX is coming also (leaked at AMD's open sourced ROCm) now taken down. These will most likely be either announced or teased at computex in late May and early June. Also it is rumored we might finally get an FSR 3.0 announcement at the show. PS: Gamers Nexus for the win!
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